Conservatism should be considered a intensive hate crime against humanity.
Conservatives are PURE EVIL. Every single one of them. They’ve fought against every civil right advancement in history. Under Reagan, they publicly celebrated the deaths of countless victims of AIDS and did everything in their power to maximise the number of victims. They attacked every researcher who tried to help.
Conservatives consider anyone who can experience empathy to be their enemy. They call empathy “woke” and want it to die. As long as they continue to live, conservatives will never stop oppressing and killing the normal people. They can’t. Because they are truly, deeply evil.
Every war and every genocide in human history has been caused by conservatives exclusively. Nothing good has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all.
Conservatives are the very definition of evil and must be completely redacted if we are to ever know peace.
Conservatism get more conservative the longer it exists because they huff their own propaganda. They don’t see anyone even remotely left of center as humans. So if you get slammed for “dehumanizing” them, remind the mental deficient that you are producing noises at, that the conservatives did it first, have a history of doing it, and will continue to do it. Conservatism is a carcinogenic weed and needs to be nipped in the bud whenever possible.
Also I will ALWAYS post this clip to remind people what needs to be done if the Conservatives ever start something (which they also have history of doing): https://youtu.be/eOcimzsviFA
Name checks out.
I’ve always said it and I’ll keep saying it because it is undeniably true.
Not a single one of America’s enemies on the face of the Earth could harm Americans more than the Republican party does.
I guess only republicans. Okay.
he’s literally the problem almost every single time there’s a long standing problem. most of it traces ban to Ronny which is amazing considering he may have been brain dead the entire time.
he may have been brain dead the entire time
They say history repeats itself.
They say those that know history are cursed to watch those that don’t repeat it
Ask every “progressive” running for POTUS in 28’ if they plan to put them back and then follow up if they will put that in writing on their platform. If they say yes, suggest they use tungsten carbide bolts to attach them.
Yeah, solar panels are nice, but in spite of the different branding, “the path Carter set us on” was still neoliberalism. Carter was the beginning of the end of the unions and the postwar consensus around Keynesianism and progressive New Deal policies.
Carter was facing an economic problem known at the time as “stagflation,” where things were getting more expensive while wages remained stagnant. Keynesianism called for the government spending more when wages are low in order to stimulate the economy, and spending less only under good conditions, to balance the budget and save for a rainy day. It failed to predict stagflation because stagflation was caused by the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. But Carter chose to focus on inflation rather than stagnant wages, against the interests of unions and setting us on the path of neoliberalism.
The big difference between Carter and Reagan was that Reagan was much better at selling Americans on neoliberalism because he was willing to lie through his teeth about it. Carter’s message was that neoliberalism would mean tough times and sacrifices, but that it’s a chance to set aside crass materialism and focus on finding other forms of fulfillment, because what really matters is being a good person on an individual level. Reagan’s message was fuck all that, think of all the cheap plastic shit you’ll be able to buy, plus unions are commie shit anyway, and all that social responsibility crap is just helping black people and gays so fuck it and fuck them. But it was the same economic policy of neoliberalism under both. Americans preferred Reagan’s messaging so much that he got literally 10x the electoral votes as Carter in 1980.
The reason why we’re here is not because we failed to chose Carter over Reagan, but because those were the two choices we were stuck with, one neoliberal who lies and one neoliberal who tells the truth. Since neoliberalism fucking sucks, most people are going to go for the one that lies and says it’ll be good, which is why Reagan beat Carter in 1980 with 10x the electoral votes. But the solution is not to somehow convince people to vote for the more honest neoliberal, it’s to provide an alternative to neoliberalism altogether.
“stagflation,” where things were getting more expensive while wages remained stagnant
I think we just call that “normal” in America.
Today? Sure. But it wasn’t normal in the context of the post war, New Deal/Great Society era, which is why they coined a new term for it, historically.
Yet another revisionist wanting to blame Carter for the actions of the oil industry driving world policy. Carter was not the most brilliant but he did try to do the right thing. He was trying to show the world they didn’t need to be under the complete stranglehold of the oil barrons.
Iran was a fucking mess. But it wasn’t his “fault.” He made mistakes but he didn’t betray his country to get elected.
Reagan was a traitor and should have gone to prison for what he did with Iran.
But you keep talking about how everything would be the same if we had kept Carter’s policies.
I am sure you also think the same with Harris. I am sure we would be talking about how she “should have attacked Iran and that Iran wouldn’t be crazy enough to close the strait of Hormuz.” Or “her targeted air strikes would never have happened with Trump.”
We don’t know for sure what would have happened but the character of a person is enough to at least determine their intentions even if they make mistakes. There are mistakes and there are MISTAKES.
try to do the right thing.
the character of a person
determine their intentions
None of that is remotely relevant to the discussion. I am not St. Peter deciding whether or not Carter deserves to go to heaven. Regardless of what was going on in his mind, whether he was acting with good or bad intentions, the policy he enacted was neoliberalism and the effects of his policy were the effects of neoliberalism.
I am sure we would be talking about how she “should have attacked Iran and that Iran wouldn’t be crazy enough to close the strait of Hormuz.”
You are completely and utterly delusional. My opposition to US imperialism does not depend on which party is doing it. I have never, and will never, criticize a president for not being aggressive or interventionist enough. A completely baseless acusation based on nothing but your own desire to play the victim.
Iran was a fucking mess. But it wasn’t his “fault.”
Granting the shah asylum absolutely was his fault.
You don’t have to be St. Peter to simply understand intent.
on granting Asylum. IIRC Kissinger and Rockerfeller were pushing to get the shah medical treatment. Carter agreed and all hell broke loose.
On the imperialism topic. OP talks about how things would be different If Carter’s policies had stuck around. You said “nah ah Carter and Reagan are basically the same”
You are the same type of revisionist who would say whatever cherry-picked anecdotes of the past to put forward the idea that both parties are the same.
Neoliberalist or not there is no realistic alternative on the menu right now. So let’s at least try to be moral in what we do.
Are you arguing in bad faith, or just failing to see how you just failed to address any of this guys points?
Uhhh what points?
Ah. You can’t even see the point. Got it.
Question: What do you think about the policies that Carter implemented to address stagflation of the 70s?
EDIT: to be clear, I’m not trying to argue one side or the other. I’m just trying to point out that your posts appear to be arguing in bad faith.
That’s not relevant to OP’s post.
OP was talking about how things would be better. This guy said they (Carter and Reagan) would be the same and cherry picked some data.
70s was a mix Stagflation, inflation and high unemployment meant hard choices. Carter made hard choices some very likely bad because he was too conservative.
Carter tried some questionable things and definitely shares some blame but he wasn’t a traitor and he sure isn’t the same as Reagan.
why Reagan beat Carter in 1980
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_surprise#Secret_deal_accusation
That wasn’t all of it. Carter got blamed for both Stagflation and the high interest rates his Fed used to get it under control. And of course the Iran Hostage Crisis and oil shortages. Then Reagan got all the credit for the economy the high interest rates helped save.
Of course, that was a factor, but not the only one.
Carter’s handling of Iran was poor even accounting for Reagan’s sabotage. The hostage crisis and corresponding breakdown of relations would never have occurred in the first place if Carter hadn’t granted the shah asylum, leading the Iranians to believe the US was plotting to install him in a coup exactly as it did before.
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I would recommend the podcast “Hell of Presidents,” which talks about this era in episode 12.
I’ve been saying the exact same thing for decades. Imagine where we’d be today if we had embraced solar and wind 50 years ago?
It’s all about boiling water anyway. Who cares how we boil it? Shouldn’t we boil it the cheapest, easiest way possible? The sun’s beating down, the wind is blowing, it’s easier to harvest that, than drilling holes a mile into the Earth.
Imagine where we’d be today if we had embraced solar and wind 50 years ago? I don’t want to break your imagination, but you “the US” are stuck in a loop. One step forward, two steps back.
Columbine shooting was 27years ago and nothing was done. Except a “Pray For” on social network. Don’t expect too much from your country.
Imagine where we’d be today if, during the oil crisis of the 70s, we started working towards reducing our dependency on oil with intention.
They all say it’d take 30 years. Ok, so if we started this endeavor after 9/11 we’d be in the home stretch.
If we started this in 1980…
Funny you say it’s all about boiling water when neither solar nor wind power generation requires boiling water. Actually, even the forms of solar that do involve water typically don’t boil it but just heat it to disperse that heat in the house. The only form that involves boiling water that I’m aware of is a large mirror array that reflects light over a large area towards one target, which could be a boiler.
Imagine all the bribes that get lost. Some now dead guy couldn’t afford his 3rd yacht, and their children wouldn’t even make the three comma club
It’s all about boiling water anyway. Who cares how we boil it?
Then you want nuclear power. When established, it’s cheap, reliable and scalable. And the only real solution to the growing demand.
Let’s not let Nixon off the hook here
A lot of environmental reform happened under Nixon
Or Roger Ailes
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Was it not the American people who voted democraticly to put Ronald Reagan into that position. American people have to own up to their own decisions, having a constitutional democracy makes citizens responsible for the government they elect, good or bad. Just like then, just like now, American people are responsible for the government they elected. Democracy unfortunately requires active citizenry
You’re aware of how much Americans shit on boomers, right? This is why. Boomers voted for Regan, and because of that they don’t have our respect.
And current voting age Americans have now lost the respect of the rest of the world and many future generations. You have allowed Trump, just as the Boomers allowed Regan.
You have allowed Trump, just as the Boomers allowed Regan
I allowed Trump? …looks at demographics… 60%-65%+ of votes in each election came from boomers and old Gen X…
I dunno Bob, seems like the exact same Reagan generation is at fault here. Same people that elected every GOP candidate for the last 50 years. For all the talk of “young people elected Trump/big MAGA swing”, there was a whopping +4% change in under-50 Republican voters from 2016-2024. And even after that, under-50 Democrat votes still had a net +9% advantage over the GOP. Compare that to -8% for the over-50 crowd.
Unless you think I should be bootstrapping my own billion dollar super PAC to counter multiple decades of targeted suppression of the progressive vote, I have no idea why I’m at fault here. When I bring up that both-sidesing and anti-voting narratives literally only help the fascist takeover of America I’m shouted down. And on the flip side “[my generation has] allowed Trump” when the basic facts disavow any support for him.
“It’s my fault” that old fucks keep falling for billionaire propaganda? It’s literally their votes getting him elected. What exactly should I be doing about that? Campaigning for political euthanasia?
Let’s not forget that both Bush 2000 and Trump 2016 lost the popular vote. The US system is so screwed up it produces outcomes counter to the majority desires.
The US system is so screwed up it produces outcomes counter to the majority desires.
Very true.
But many tens of millions of Americans voted for a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, literal traitor (insurrection), and probable pedophile in 2024, giving him the popular vote.
Americans are very, very, very fucked up.
Our system is also fucked up and allows for minority rule, but if more Americans had their heads screwed on straight, that brain damaged minority would never have power.
I agree, and it should never be forgotten. Past generations need to shit on us as much as it takes so they don’t forget the mistakes we made.
We need so much more awareness of these evil bastards and the tools they use to control us and turn us against each other. Trump voters sided with billionaires and hate, and that shouldn’t be forgiven.
Explain to me what sense it makes for me to blame myself for trump, Reagan, or any other Republican.
Other than to say “America bad” I am not seeing any point in “taking responsibility” for people’s actions that I’ve strongly opposed. It’s such a weird thing to see this sentiment constantly, because again “America bad” is the only way it actually leads anywhere.
One of these dipshits called me out recently on saying there are a third of a billion of us so we’re not a monolith, like they thought I was coming in high because of my American egotism or some shit. I looked up the estimated current US population and it was actually higher than I’d estimated.
I get so tired of this shit. Our future is fucked and so many people out there want us to know that we “deserve” it.
I mean you don’t deserve it, regardless of how many people your country has instilled that exact sentiment in around the world, it’s a clear mistake to conflate the ruled with their rulers.
That said, the vast majority of USAmericans didn’t care until it started happening around them, and many still bury their heads and won’t step beyond the most passive possible resistance (voting for a new ruler or set thereof, leaving the fundamental issues unaddressed; largely because of how closely they relate to the concentrations of power that rulers both require and personally benefit from; and the cycle continues). This isn’t unique to the US, similar is well documented during worse circumstances in Germany for example (Meet the Germans is a good book on the topic), but I can understand why some people arrive at being frustrated with you en masse.
Let’s just ignore the fact that Reagan actively conspired with Iran holding American diplomats hostage because them being freed before the election would have been a huge win for Carter and the economy, which would have tanked Reagan’s chances.
You act like the American people are a single entity. Do you know how many people who voted for Reagan are still even alive?
You act like the American people are a single entity
Yep. Weird how so many users do this with every other comment in their history too…
They were water heating panels. Not photovoltaic. They did not produce electricity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_at_the_White_House
PV wasn’t economically feasible at smaller scale until relatively recently, but that doesn’t mean that preheating water for heating or domestic hot water is a waste of time. It can save considerable costs and fossil fuel consumption.
Yes but it was still a step in the right direction that could have led to more steps. Who is to say even Bush wouldn’t have looked at those every day before deciding “let’s do the new electric ones” or whatever.
I swear some people are just "100% perfect progress NOW or NOTHING, ITS SHIT WHY THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL TERRIBLE.
Who is to say even Bush wouldn’t have looked at those every day before deciding “let’s do the new electric ones” or whatever.
That’s not how anything works. Bush didn’t oppose green energy because he just never saw a solar panel, he opposed green energy because it went against the vested interests of the oil companies he represented.
That is the reason why we’re “terrible,” because we’re aware of the deeper systemic forces that are causing the problems, and of the fact that symbolic gestures don’t actually fix anything. We are terrible for the same reason your mechanic is terrible when he says that getting a car wash won’t actually fix your engine.
Yes, that was the technology at the time. By creating a wedge issue like “solar panels are unsightly” or “wind farms kill birds”, politicians undermine good science and good economic ideas to please their donors.
every joules the heating panels used to heat water is 1 joules not needed to be burned with fossil fuels.
Which, had they been left in place, would have been replaced by PV panels when the tech became viable. And, there would have been another photo op.
Obviously, this was meant to illustrate the position of the administration on this subject. The same way removing them illustrates the Republican position.
Remember when Bush said he didn’t like broccoli? Like it or not, our politicians are influences, some would say the OG influences.
I mean, they were.
Bush put solar panels on the White House in 2002. Two solar thermal systems and a 9kW PV system. 167 panels in total.
Obama added even more in 2013.
It is still energy independence. To heat water, you can either use the sun for free or buy/extract petrochemicals
Thanks for the details. Still good and saving fossil fuels.
I dunno, America problems and corruptions were there on day one, your founding fathers were total monsters.
Dont think Carter’s policies could have changed your course that much.
The US founding fathers were less monstrous than most other rulers of the time. You have to give credit where credit is due. And yes, both Carter and Gore could have set the country on a fundamentally different course. That certainly wouldn’t have solved every problem, but shit would be a lot less fucked than it is today.
I really hate when people are like “If it doesn’t solve for 100% it’s not worth it”… moving the needle slowly over time has its benefits. Hell it’s what the GOP has been doing by ratcheting us to the right. Imagine if it had gone the other way.
No no see, Washington was not pro Palestine and constantly “Trans Rights” so he was 1000% Hitler like every American President, duuuh.
No matter WHERE you are the US using less fossil fuels would’ve meant less climate change which means fewer disasters and climate issues everywhere, to say nothing for how it would’ve sped development of renewables more generally and had a knock-on effect worldwide.
America is undeniably a corrupt shithole - but virtue signaling against good policy to get a cheap punch in is childish and imbecilic.
It is to say that Carter did not have the powerful and efficient solar technology we have today and has not set the course from fossil to renewable but from abroad fossils to home fossils.
I mean, they fled Europe for religious freedom, doesn’t sound like anyone else was better so that’s kinda moot.
incorrect. They fled Europe because they were such intolerant pieces of shit that nobody fucking wanted them, and the “religious freedom” they were chasing was the freedom to oppress other religions.
The puritans didn’t flee Europe for religious freedom, they fled Europe for the “freedom” to establish a society where they could force everyone to follow their religion. They were also only a fraction of people who settled America, many more were just looking to get rich quick.
It was actually Cuck porn
The Puritans actually left because they were religious hardliners that the church wouldn’t tolerate, iirc. But that was more than a century before the revolutionary war.
oh no Americans have been fucking America
please keep in mind who wanted Trump as their leader
Nazis
About 30% of the country. The other 70% was either on the right side of history, or too apathetic to vote. Most Americans DIDN’T want him.
Yeah you can’t count the people that didn’t vote as “against Trump”.
If anything you can lump them in with “for Trump” because they couldn’t get off their pathetic asses to stop a felon rapist pedo traitor from becoming the most powerful American.
You could argue the former, yes, I’d concede that. Though, I couldn’t say also that makes them “for” tRump… just not opposed to him. Neither is right, mind you. This is a situation where I truly wish that “Did not vote” was the winning candidate.
Not voting is the same as wanting with less steps
And precisely because so many people can’t imagine any ‘solution’ beyond impotently signing off on new rulers and calling it a day, we are doomed to keep on with this whole farce. We told you this would happen a decade ago.
Not everyone who didn’t vote did it out of apathy. The Republican playbook includes disenfranchising as many people as possible, making it effectively impossible or extremely difficult to vote.
effectively impossible
But not LITERALLY impossible. I didn’t have to, thank the gods, but if I had to I would have gone REAL far out of my way to ensure I voted to keep a felon rapist pedophile traitor from dictating my future.
It’s not. It’s ALLOWING with the exact amount of steps. Now, there is no argument to be had that this isn’t still a pathetic, apathetic, route to force us all down. Inaction is still an action. I am not defending those people, either.
I SO wish that I had a valid argument against what you’re saying. But I don’t.
Those who didn’t bother to vote against him tacitly endorsed him
They made a choice to allow him to become president, even if they didn’t vote for him
I despise them as much as his supporters
ESPECIALLY the second time around
I can’t despise them as much as active supporters… apathy is for sure the lesser of two evils there. But, yes… “if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”
“if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”
I’ll take your Rush quote and raise you another.
“Indifference is the strongest force in the universe. It makes everything it touches meaningless. Love and hate don’t stand a chance against it.”
That being said, I’m not sure apathy is the lesser of two evils.
I could say indifference IS better than malice or willful ignorance… but, this could easily be disregarded as desire to ignore the greater concern (which I think you’re driving at) MLK’s expression of, “He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.” Comes to mind. Sure, we’re getting philosophical… but I couldn’t refute that standing, without deploying willfull ignorance of my own.
I am, vehemently, clinging onto the notion that people in my country are ignorant and lazy, rather than fully malicious… I can stomach the former far easier.
clinging onto the notion that people in my country are ignorant and lazy, rather than fully malicious… I can stomach the former far easier.
Agreed. Unfortunately, the more I converse with conservatives in particular, but also people on this very platform that defend not voting in 2024, the more I’m starting to lean towards fully malicious. There are a lot of non-conservatives on this platform that appear to be accelerationists that want full collapse, which will only serve to end many, many innocent people’s lives.
Yeah, agreed… my outlook is pretty bleak for my country, and by that I mean its people. Conservatives are truly a lost cause, in most situations. The exceptions being people too blinded by propaganda to see the harm they’re doing. I don’t see a lot of people “defending” non-voting, but that may be more anecdotal.
Dude, not everyone is as plugged in as you are. Some people don’t watch the news at all. Some people just go to work, come home, and do their own thing. Not everyone is terminally online.
Despising people for living their lives differently than you is just childish.
I’m lucky enough to live in a civilised country
We have compulsory voting, which is absolutely fantastic
It prevents the kind of stupidity that is 'Murica
If you live in a democracy it is YOUR DUTY to pay attention, inform youself, and vote intelligently to maintain that democracy that many, many people DIED to give you.
If you don’t, you’re a piece of trash.
This was a no brainer. A TRAITOR ran for office after attempting to violently end our democracy. Every piece of trash that didn’t show up to vote against that traitor is a piece of trash.
Bullshit. Dead people have no bearing on how the living operate. The only duty people have is to fucking feed themselves and such.
Found the loser that doesn’t grasp how important democracy is or that people DIE for it so that others that come after them can benefit from it.
You don’t have to be terminally online to inform yourself of your choices for a few minutes every for years.
This is your reminder that civil participation shouldn’t be considered a right, but a privilege.
I’d say neither, it should be a duty
Voting literally is a “civic duty” for those who want democracy.
I think it’s a privilege to take part in the duty that is civil participation/ engagement.
Fair
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I remain firm that counting people that didn’t voten if they had the chance as not wanting Trump is wrong. They accepted what the majority wanted. So I say “yes the majority wanted Trump”. And that includes the popular vote.
I can agree that they did the wrong thing… but not voting isn’t what I’d call “wanting” It’s something more akin to “allowing” him to win. Which, isn’t any better. I am near about arguing semantics, I know.
Maybe saying it like that is a bit provocative but from my perspective it’s functionally the same. They didn’t care enough to make their voice heard so I feel like I can say that they wanted it that way. If they didn’t they should have voted.
I get it… and I earnestly agree with most of your sentiments. I’m probably just clinging to hope that people aren’t such disappointments as to WANT it, so much as “not care enough” to avoid it. (If that is even somehow better)
Even of the votes actually cast Trump hasn’t won by a majority.
He absolutely did. Trump got 77,302,580 popular votes vs 75,017,613 for Harris. Electoral it was 312 vs 226. So a majority wanted Trump.
He didn’t, he got 49.8% of the votes cast for president. The majority of votes were cast for others.
No. You don’t get to dismiss those that didn’t vote. It’s like everyone wants to ignore the Law of Large Numbers when it comes to elections. The cold, hard truth is that even if we had 100% turnout, Trump still would have won. You seem to think that every non-voter was a potential vote against Trump, without stopping to consider how many would be a vote FOR him.
The Law of Large Numbers means that yes, over 50% of the country wanted this. You don’t get to say it was only 30%, and treat the non-voters like a single bloc that would have voted differently. And I get it. It’s comforting to think that it’s only a third of the population that are full of hate and pants-shittingly stupid. But its well over half. American citizens are fucking idiots, and that’s not an unfair generalization to make.
The law of large numbers only applies to a random sampling. There is very clear indications that targeted disenfranchisement has been applied to the American electorate for decades. This indicates that if more people had voted, or been allowed to vote, that the results would have changed, or at least that’s the belief of those who set things up this way. Those who aren’t voting due to apathy may or may not be represented accurately by the votes cast, depending on the cause of their apathy.
citizens are fucking idiots
Ok.
that’s not an unfair generalization to make.
Sure and you’re not a bigot.
I mean sure, downvote me for pointing out the obvious. The Law of Large Numbers is an actual thing. It’s why we can get accurate poll results while only polling ~1000 people. And the more you get, the smaller the margin of error becomes. We had about 65% turnout last election. At that level, the margin of error is essentially zero. Trump won the popular vote. That last 35% wouldn’t have changed anything.
Our problem isn’t that we have a vocal minority terrorizing the majority. Its the majority that’s a problem.
The problem I have with you is your bigotry. Which is why I succinctly said that. You didn’t need to write so much, we all get it, you hate Americans.
My country spent decades pretending it was the greatest to ever exist while it’s citizens embraced ignorance and stupidity until we reached the point we’re at now. Over half the population are people who should never be trusted with a decision. Oh, they’re not evil, they’re just dangerously gullible idiots. And it’s the decisions those dangerously gullible idiots have made that might wind up killing us all.
So yes, I hate Americans in the same way someone who grows up in a racist family hates their own family. Because there are only two options when you grow up with these dumbasses: you either hate them, or become a dumbass yourself.
I hate bigots. On Lemmy every day it is commonly expressed that millions of people are trash because of where they were born. Hundreds of users cannot wait to tell you how evil ALL Americans are. And somehow this form of “I despise vast numbers of people for being born somewhere” is supposedly not bigotry (it very obviously is). I will never believe that these users want what’s best for us. They want us to suffer. That is why they cannot wait to tell us how much they hate our guts for being born a place.
wtf does this have to do with solar panels on the White House?
Did you see this thread? Because a lot of it and a lot of American politics threads are “fuck Americans they’re all stupid and evil!”
I mean, yeah?
Have you looked out the window recently?
Oh shit. I just looked out and saw the “bigotry against americans is the only valid position” billboard. My bad. Thanks for the absolutely bad faith fake ass question tho.
You are living in an evil empire that’s building concentration camps and shooting civilians, starting wars and funding genocide, yet you expect the rest of the world to treat you like you aren’t a citizen of said evil empire?
We expect people who are supposed to be progressives to understand that no one chooses the circumstances of their birth dipshit. I’ve been speaking out against America since I was a teenager, and have no means to escape. Yet in your eyes I am no different than some conservative dipshit who helped drag all of America into this.
Its literal fascist thinking, you are equating a human being to their nationality. I see it on Lemmy all the time, usually from idiots whose own countries have their own histories of vile and evil shit. Its stupid, pathetic, and not at all congruent with progressive thinking.
Right, we’re the real fascists for pointing out how fascist America is. Whatever.
The idea that anyone should treat someone poorly because they live in a place is called bigotry. Any words you want to say to excuse that are just bullshit
Treat you? We’re not having you over for dinner, buddy. This is a comment section. Get over yourself.
We’re sick of hearing you bitch about Trump while doing nothing about it. It’s been ten years, either do something or shut up. We have no sympathy left for you.
Yup, and ironically a very fascist view of nationality from those who like to think they are progressive. It’s even funnier that most of them are European and their countries histories are also full of atrocities.
Exactly, exactly, and exactly.
Fuck countries, let alone utilizing that construct to justify hating large numbers of people. I despise what Russia has been doing and that there is a lot of support for it there. And yet if I catch myself saying “the Russians” I have to check myself because I usually mean the Russian government. I damn sure will never use it to say “I hate all their citizens”. And I would hate it if that’s how someone took it.
Edit: comment instead of downvote, cowards.
Team sports
What the hell is this weird gimmick account shit?
It’s a reference to the theory that all facets of reactionary politics revolve around either “Team Sports” or “Cuck Porn”, and, under closer scrutiny, mostly cuck porn. I’ve only recently stumbled upon this, but i think it makes a lot of sense.
If you’ve got time, here is a very good article: https://www.liberalcurrents.com/the-interracial-cuck-porn-theory-of-everything/
