• Noite_Etion@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    I dunno, America problems and corruptions were there on day one, your founding fathers were total monsters.

    Dont think Carter’s policies could have changed your course that much.

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      17 hours ago

      The US founding fathers were less monstrous than most other rulers of the time. You have to give credit where credit is due. And yes, both Carter and Gore could have set the country on a fundamentally different course. That certainly wouldn’t have solved every problem, but shit would be a lot less fucked than it is today.

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        12 hours ago

        I really hate when people are like “If it doesn’t solve for 100% it’s not worth it”… moving the needle slowly over time has its benefits. Hell it’s what the GOP has been doing by ratcheting us to the right. Imagine if it had gone the other way.

      • AmyAye@nord.pub
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        13 hours ago

        No no see, Washington was not pro Palestine and constantly “Trans Rights” so he was 1000% Hitler like every American President, duuuh.

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      17 hours ago

      No matter WHERE you are the US using less fossil fuels would’ve meant less climate change which means fewer disasters and climate issues everywhere, to say nothing for how it would’ve sped development of renewables more generally and had a knock-on effect worldwide.

      America is undeniably a corrupt shithole - but virtue signaling against good policy to get a cheap punch in is childish and imbecilic.

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        17 hours ago

        It is to say that Carter did not have the powerful and efficient solar technology we have today and has not set the course from fossil to renewable but from abroad fossils to home fossils.

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      16 hours ago

      I mean, they fled Europe for religious freedom, doesn’t sound like anyone else was better so that’s kinda moot.

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        10 hours ago

        incorrect. They fled Europe because they were such intolerant pieces of shit that nobody fucking wanted them, and the “religious freedom” they were chasing was the freedom to oppress other religions.

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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        13 hours ago

        The puritans didn’t flee Europe for religious freedom, they fled Europe for the “freedom” to establish a society where they could force everyone to follow their religion. They were also only a fraction of people who settled America, many more were just looking to get rich quick.

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        15 hours ago

        The Puritans actually left because they were religious hardliners that the church wouldn’t tolerate, iirc. But that was more than a century before the revolutionary war.

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          So maybe correct on freedom part, but wrong on the “not much better” part