Ever since getting an EV, I’ve noticed drivers to be a-holes! This guy in a huge truck spit in my direction for no reason!
All over social media people will key teslas, and talk crap. Has anyone else had weird experiences?
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Never owned one, but I’d be lying if I said buying one definitely increases my concern.
Dude asks reddit users why people hate so much. That’s like asking birds why they fly so much.
Working in the EV industry it’s unreal the amount of negative press. The main group pushing this narrative is actually the NADA or National Auto Dealers Association. They have monster lobby influence and make billions and donate more to politicians than the NRA. They make more than most of the companies making the actual cars. All Americans know all they do is rip you off and Tesla, Rivian etc sell directly to the consumer. They can’t stop the rising tide. I got more people being pro EV in Florida and I drive an electric truck.
Dealers also know that their golden goose, overpriced maintenance, will lay a lot less eggs as folks move on to EVs.
well thats what happens when you live in social media. a bunch of innuendo and anecdotes. Just study the numbers. And just cuz you are loud doesnt make you CORRECT. look at what social media did for the biggest crook ever…
I don’t hate EVs, I hate places slowly deciding for me that it’s what I need to drive. I will drive what’s least expensive for me to drive while being attractive enough to me to warrant blowing that much money up front for. No current ev, forced or otherwise, meets that criteria for me.
I drive an efficient csuv that’s capable of pulling my little pop up when I travel for work. The only vehicle that remotely interested me was the lightning, but that’s a truck and not really what I want.
My brother hates them because EV tax incentives are yet another subsidy for the rich.
Honestly I’ve had my 3 for almost six years now and a Y for a few years as well and I’ve never experienced this. I’ve had plenty of people ask questions or be ignorant but no more road rage and dickheads on the road than normal.
Because Glenn Beck told them to.
I’ve actually not had any negative experiences over the past 4 years, and I live in Texas (and driven all over). I kinda concluded the concerns over hate were therefore overblown TBH.
Medias are paid by oil makers and automakers. The formers always hated EVs, the latters tried to sell theirs and then realized they would have just lost money doing so, and now are reverting to ICEs and hybrids. The result is an anti-ev campaing being paid by all the major sponsor of traditional media. Fake, old and twisted informations about EVs are constantly spread all over internet, papers and tv shows. Here in Italy most people thinks that “lobbies” pushed for the EV agenda to force people to buy new, impossibly expensive EVs, just to make people poorer (just saying…)
I was at a Tesla owners gathering at one of Alaska’s two superchargers. We had about 20 teslas parked there in -5 Fahrenheit, just standing around talking about teslas. A guy in an ICE truck stopped in front of us, then tried to spin out as he took off. It was a pathetic attempt since it was icy out and he still couldn’t manage a proper burn out. We just laughed because we knew our teslas could do a lot better. My conservative parents and relatives hate EV’s because they suddenly became environmentalists when they realized that they didn’t like mining for battery chemicals even though they want more oil drilling.
Point out the 10’s of billions of lithium batteries used in cell phones, laptops, tablets, cordless power tools etc and see if they all stop using them.
I’ve done this. The answer is, “that’s different.”
I think I should come up with a product that uses a chainsaw engine to power cell phones. I’ll call it “Freedom Power.”
Republicans are brainwashed to hate whatever liberals like. It’s their most fundamental program. If liberals cured cancer repubs would refuse the cure.
Many assumptions lead to many wrong answers.
Agree, I am too while owning a Tesla & eMoto bike with no ICE for backup. I’d say thats “all in”. No reason to paint with a broad brush.
Sure, and many Republicans quietly got vaxxed for COVID while supporting GOP leaders who railed against vaccines and wearing masks. Plenty of Republicans “know better” but simply choose to ignore it when their leaders wage their culture wars against EVs, e-bikes and such.
No, re rallyed against vax mandates, for freedom of choice and following the data. The commies closing down everything was BS. And the darn vax is more like an innoculation as it doesn’t work that well against the variants. I still got Covid last year after 4 or 5 shots.
I still got Covid last year after 4 or 5 shots.
Somehow, I don’t believe you given that you can’t even recall how many vaccines you received.
You’re an exception.
Many is not one. Many assumptions read to many wrong answers.
Covid taught me they will cut off their nose to spite their face.
I’ve also found the reverse. Liberals tend to hate whatever republicans like.
Such as?
One example is the recent immigration to NY. Because Republicans are against immigration generally, liberals thought they were for it, until recently when the influx became too much, and they realized maybe the Republicans were right after all.
I’ve not had any bad experiences in public. Online seems to be the breeding ground for Luddite personalities. Best to just ignore those threads or social platforms where that negative mindset flourishes
Just responding to you because you’re the top comment.
I dislike electric cars. Firstly they aren’t really any better for the environment than gas cars because only like %30 of emissions from cars come from the literal tailpipe of the car. And in the US you still have the same problem, You’ve just moved the tailpipe. The vast majority of emissions come from manufacturing, maintenance of the cars themselves as well as maintenance of roads and everything else that cars allow. Electric cars are just large corporations trying to sell you the idea that we can consume our way out of a problem that was caused by overconsumption. Even besides the fact that they aren’t very green, Cars are extremely inefficient people movers and extremely dangerous.
Truly green transportation, and what I believe to be the future of moving people will be walkable cities, electric trains that come so often you don’t need to check a schedule, and bicycles.
Electric cars are an ok bandaid but still have mostly the same problems as internal combustion cars.
Check out /R/fuckcars and notjustbikes on YouTube for more info. Also the book walkable cities by Jeff speck has an entire chapter about why electric cars suck.
Youre definitely not wrong in that evs can be as bad as an ice, though you overstate the equivaence of emissions created at the start of a vehicles life.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/19/business/electric-vehicles-carbon-footprint-batteries.html
“Last year, researchers from the universities of Cambridge, Exeter and Nijmegen in The Netherlands found that in 95% of the world, driving an electric car is better for the environment than driving a gasoline-powered car”
So yes, im most cases evs are better, unless the electricity you use is not renewable but rather very dirty coal. I live in ontario, where we run nuclear and hydro, fully green energy. In my case, an ev easily cuts total emissions in half.
Of course, bikes would be a dream. I love biking, i watch notjustbikes, and ive visited countries with biking infrastructure that is amazing. Unfortunately, western society is not build for bikes. Neighbourhoods are literally designed around cars (wtf!), but this feedback loop means more cars and more cities built for cars.
So whats the plan? Deconstruct america? Or take a step to produce a car that can be better for the environment while simultaneously increasing renewable energy production (bidens renewables stuff?).
Yes they’re better for the environment, I didn’t say they weren’t. I said they’re a good band aide but can’t be viewed as a long term sustainable solution.
But yeah, we’re going to have to overhaul our transportation infrastructure in the US in order to overcome this problem long term. Jeff speck does a pretty good job and describing where to get started with that in his book walkable cities. Some first steps might include removing mandatory parking requirements and making it legal to build mixed use developments.
One thing I thing many people overlook is how in many ways, and for many people, an electric car is a more PLEASURABLE option over gas vehicles.
No oil changes, no warm up time, 99% of the time there’s no ‘fueling up’ out in the cold (charging at home in the garage), and they’re smoother, quieter and faster.
The arguments over “which is greener” and how it’s some giant conspiracy lie are arguments that will exist until this generation is dead. “Those dang horseless carriages WILL NEVER replace a horse!!!”
It’s not a giant conspiracy, it’s just that cars are extremely inefficient transportation and are unsustainable, and dangerous. The goal should be reducing car usage to as little as possible and what’s left should be electric. I don’t think your horse and buggy analogy is applicable here because you’re the one who’s advocating for a nearly 100 year old technology over modern design and infrastructure principles.
Personally I’d rather have an electric car than a gas car but I’d rather not have to own a car at all. I’d rather have safe, walkability with public transit so robust that I can get anywhere I need to go without checking a schedule.
I agree.
ZERO problems here either and I live in Iowa. Gotten a few thumbs up from other EV drivers of all makes.
Haven’t seen that much on social media either except weird disinformation stuff like possibly the OP.
Also iowa and same experience.
Yup, same here. I guess I get overtaken more often, but that’s about as bad as it gets in person. The shit talking happens online - but it’s mostly confined to car discussion circles.
What’s pretty hilarious is that if you go back nearly 30 years, to a Friends episode in the first season, Rachel has a bad date with a guy who can’t stop ranting about Ed Begley Jr’s EV (“I’m like, hey, get a real car!”). The mindset doesn’t seem to be a new thing.
I’d guess it comes from the same place as people who rant about vegans, as if the thing that bothers them more than anything in the world is vegans saying that they’re vegan. The very word is offensive to them. It’s very hard to understand.
I live in the middle of F150 country and have only had positive experiences. I feel like people just read into people being assholes while driving. They weren’t an asshole to you because your car is electric they’re just assholes
You think people hate EVs? Try riding a bicycle. Keep in mind that half the population has below average intelligence, and they’re all on social media.
Also keep in mind that bots are up to 40% of internet traffic. There are massive pay to play troll farm operations and obviously OPEC nations and Russia have huge vested interest in keeping EVs down. Look at Gamer-gate and how well the managed to program youth to have a more ahh “conservative slant” to reality or what some might call alternative facts.
Fucking 4chan.
I used to follow all the rules of the road and stayed in bike lanes for my safety. After so many trucks seeing how close they could get to me while flooring it and spraying me with exhaust, I stopped riding on streets. Too many hit and runs never closed, and all those people gambling with my life, I stopped riding except on trails. I love doing triathlons so for me it was not riding to commute but riding for fitness. But yeah people suck in general.
Are you sure it’s half and not more? … at least in US it seems to be more than half.
No, half the population has below “median” intelligence.
Median is an average, as are mode and mean.
Average = mean. Median is not an average. Average has a specific definition and it’s not the same as median or mode.
No mean is an average.
Mode is the most common number is a dataset.
Median is the number that is in the middle of the database ordered.
For example: 0,0,0,0,1,1,1,5,10
Mean: 2
Mode: 0
Median 1
All three attempt to find the tendency to the center, which is what an average actually is. Mean is the most commonly used average, and median follows, mode is almost never used as an average.
The fact that people use average as synonymous with mean doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t.
Do we have any reason to believe that intelligence doesn’t follow a normal distribution? It’s uncommon for these types of variables not to do so, so mean and median should be the same here.
From personal observations it appears to be more Log-Normal, but…
Think about how dumb the average person is and then realize that half of the people are dumber than that
“Half of the population had below average intelligence and they are all on social media.” So true. So funny.
The Half below average intelligence also are deep into tribalism.
“Damn them stupid people. I hope they stay in their own group.”
Wonderful irony.
I don’t hate EV.
