R34 skyline

The one from 25 years ago? When Clinton was in the white house? Yes, times have changed a little. A 1998 M3 had 240 horsepower.

I’m fine with this but I think to wear that badge it needs a minimum of 750hp.

I assume because people compare it to something like a model Y, which costs less and most would consider a better vehicle overall?

Also iowa and same experience.

This is positive in the long run. I’m convinced the majority of people buying an EV will be EV owners for life. I’ve owned a LOT of great cars in my lifetime and within 2 months of my wife buying a Model Y, I’ll never go back to anything else.

My god this gets so old. 5 years ago people were buying the Tesla because of Musk. What Musk does with his time, that has nothing to do with Tesla, is about 9,856th on the list of things I consider when buying a car. I would put his non-Tesla actions on the same level as the stitching color on the underside of my passenger seat. But if it’s that important to you, just don’t do it. I’d prefer people not buy a Tesla than ride around with a douche sticker explaining
their feelings.

My wife has a 2023 Tesla Model Y

1. Standardized charging-She has a Tesla, no issue
2. “Solid State Batteries”-Whatever Toyota
3. “Fast Charging”-We have to use Superchargers about 8-10 times a year. I’m not going to cry over the 4 hours of my life that is removed each year. Just like I never worry about the 2 hours a year (26x 5minutes) I spend fueling up my Kia Telluride.

So in summary, no

The good news is that your 12 year old 4Runner won’t feel dated compared to a 2023. Kind of sad, but true.

Oh you mean the solid state EV with a 900 mile range that is coming out in 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029

I’ve never witnessed a bigger improvement in a current vehicle from any manufacturer than the Prius.

Here come the excuses. Hyundai, Genesis, and Kia finishing near the top is impressive but it’s nothing new. They’ve been near or at the top for awhile now. It’s really impressive when they actually update their cars on a regular basis. Imagine their dependability if they still used a 5 speed automatic from the turn of the century in their $50k SUV.

Is that why Lexus almost always ends up on top? Does Lexus pay to be at the top of this list? Is that why and Rover always ends up at the bottom.

Wow, you should buy their stock if you honestly believe that.