Ever since getting an EV, I’ve noticed drivers to be a-holes! This guy in a huge truck spit in my direction for no reason!
All over social media people will key teslas, and talk crap. Has anyone else had weird experiences?
Ever since getting an EV, I’ve noticed drivers to be a-holes! This guy in a huge truck spit in my direction for no reason!
All over social media people will key teslas, and talk crap. Has anyone else had weird experiences?
There was a study done in Norway this year tjat showed that the majority of people with range anxiety for electric cars had never owned or driven one.
Isn’t that going to be a self-selecting group? People for whom range isn’t an issue are obviously going to buy them since their situation allows it.
Maybe range anxiety of the non-owner group is misplaced for a subset, but without additional detail it could also be a valid concern amongst that cohort depending on use.
There’s also the simple fact that the vast majority of cars on the road in Norway are still not BEVs, so the “never owned one” cohort is likely to have more opinions (of all types) anyway by virtue of being ~4x the size of the BEV owner cohort.
Depends how you define “vast majority”. Electric cars are getting close to 25% of cars on Norwegian roads now.
It was 20% in March this year. Not sure when the “study” was undertaken, but I’d say 80% is the vast majority compared to the 20% alternative, and so it’s not a surprise that the 80% contains more opinions (of all types, not just concern about range) than the 20%. With that difference in size, you can make a “study” say whatever you want as long as you selectively report that “people who don’t have an EV say X” without providing that context.
There’s probably more people having sex every day amongst people who have never owned an EV, too. More people with an IQ over 180 as well. All meaningless, but hey it’s a study and that’s what it says.
Once you factor in that someone for whom range is an issue is unlikely to buy an EV, it seems like a no-brainer that the 4x larger cohort would have more concerns about range.
By the way, I followed your link, as 20% sounded low to me. The pie chart on the source says 23,6% of all cars in Norway is electric.
Which is more in line with what the State Road Authority said in July this year: We are approaching 24% electric car ownership.
https://www.vegvesen.no/om-oss/presse/aktuelt/2023/07/nar-24-prosent-elbilandel/
Considering over 80% of new cars sold are electric now, my guess of 25% now is probably accurate. We will see when new numbers come out next year.
Your own link says that 83% of new cars in Norway are BEV, the 20% is total cars on the road, including used. The nearly 5x cohort of new car buyers have no problem with range.
Day to day I have 0 range anxiety. When it is really hot or really cold, it starts creeping in. When it’s a particularly busy day and really cold, the anxiety is full force in my M3. I expect this to be resolved in the next gen not only for the better battery tech and efficiencies, but due to destination chargers popping up in more and more places.
I would have 0 anxiety, and just a minor annoyance, even on the coldest days, if I could just plug in at 240/30a at one of my destinations for an hour or two.
Newer Teslas have more efficient heat pumps that use very little energy. I have a 2019 Model 3 that loses a lot of range in winter, but the loss in my 2021 Model Y is hardly noticable.
In Norway you can’t throw a rock anywhere without hitting a charger, though, so there is rarely a risk of running out of battery.
I’m jealous for your chargers. It’s not like I drive more than a few hundred miles in any give direction. East or West from where I am is fine. North or South on the other hand. There are a few chargers, but I would be driving 30 minutes out of my way to get to them. It’s massively inconvenient.
Heatpumps below 45F start to steeply decline in efficiency. Trying to warm my car up on a 20F day (which is how I start most days 4 months out of the year) saves me, at most 1.5kw an hour with a heat pump. That’s 6 miles an hour if the rest of the M3 is running perfectly. During 3 hours of driving, I would gain about 18 miles. Although not insignificant, it’s not some holy grail to EV range and not enough to make a noticeable difference.
I just really wish our charging infrastructure was better in the US. Give it another 5 years and I think we’ll be just fine.
20F is -6C, which would be a mild winter day where I’m from. And honestly, even with those temperatures and snow on the roads I don’t notice that much range loss in my 2021, compared to losing almost half in my 2019 without heat pump.
Tests in Norway show a range loss of around 6% in newer Teslas during winter.