I mean, that’s probably not gonna get the girl, but I think you taught her dad a little humility
Ideally sure, but I don’t think the kinda guy that does that is big on learnin’
On the contrary: guys like that are big on fear. That’s at the root of conservatism and toxic masculinity: fear of losing one’s life, one’s property, one’s place in the social hierarchy.
When he saw another gun come out, he felt fear. Nothing teaches you better than that.
He felt fear. Nothing teaches you better than that.
I don’t think that’s true and I don’t think I want it to be.
I don’t think that’s true and I don’t think I want it to be.
it is just true, fear is one of the primal human responses, it’s what kept us from being eaten by fucking lions or some shit.
One of, yes. But in modern society those primarily motivated by fear are not helping.
i suppose so, but psychologically speaking, it’s true.
Nah. The ones I know would probably have a beer with you and tell you to drive safe.
Starts talking about his own custom 1911 “First of all, the feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen. It’s not going to have any feeding problems. The slide’s been replaced with a reinforced version, and it meshes perfectly with the frame. The frame itself has been iron-welded and scraped down multiple times for maximum precision. The front strap part of the frame has been checkered to make it dig into the hand. That prevents any slipping. The sight system’s original too. It’s a 3-dot type. It’s got an enlarged front sight, giving it superior target sighting capability. The regular hammer’s been replaced with a ring hammer. That enhances the cocking control and increases the hammer-down speed. They also reworked the grip safety to accommodate the ring hammer. It looks like they eliminated it altogether. This is a tool for pros. The thumb safety and slide stop are extended for precise handling. The base of the trigger guard is whittled down so you can use a high grip, and the trigger itself is a long type for easy finger access. The trigger pull is about 3.5 pounds. that’s about a pound and a half lighter than normal. The magazine well has been widened to make it easier to put in a new magazine. The magazine catch button has been filed down low to make it harder to hit it by mistake. The mainspring housing has been changed to a flat type to increase grip, and it’s even been fitted with stepping so that it won’t slip from the recoil when firing. On top of that, they added cocking serrations to the top part of the slide. That lets you load and eject cartridges faster in an emergency. Whoever did this is a professional, no question. This thing could shoot a one-hole at 25 yards in a machine rest.”
Just take the safety off. It’s a mechanical device that can and will fail when you need it most. The best safety you have is yourself and rigidly held gun handling rules.
Is this a genuine opinion you hold?
It’s a 1911…it has two external safeties at least. Glock fans like to say they’re monsters that shoot you in the leg for fun.
I feel like our downvoted homie was making a joke in line with the copypasta.
Thank you, I didn’t downvote them but I do appreciate the context.
No worries. I didn’t assume anything negative - just wanted to answer. 1911 fudd vs Glock arguments aren’t exactly mainstream.
Typically there’s no cross-bolt safety on a 1911. Slide lock and beavertail are the main ones. The beavertail is on the back of the handgrip, and it’s supposed to be particular - the force is supposed to be at the top for it to disengage the safety.
Most people consider the cross-bolt to be a safety, so they sort of suggested a firearm with no “safety” have the safety removed.
I am generally against safeties on pistols because they should stay holstered if you’re carrying them, and the holster acts as the safety by blocking access to the trigger. If you’re in the act of shooting the gun, the saftey routinely gets in the way and requires training in an extra step before firing, something that could be a problem in an emergency. A common way to lose a violent encounter while carrying a gun is to fail to actually shoot your gun.
A rifle needs a safety because there’s no good way to block accidental trigger pulls like that, since you have to open carry to have any reasonable amount of access.
Anyone carrying a gun in a holster should be required have sufficient training to use the safety properly.
It gives you more time to think before killing something and also protects you from someone grabbing the gun or someone else mishandling your gun if it leaves your possession.
That’s not how defensive pistol use works. I would suggest watching a bunch of videos from the Active Self Protection YouTube channel if you want to see how self defense pistol encounters go. But no, there’s not enough time or space to pull your gun out and then contemplate using it. If you have that kind of time for reflection, you have the opportunity to disengage or de-escalate which should always be what you’re working towards.
I am generally against safeties on pistols because they should stay holstered if you’re carrying them, and the holster acts as the safety by blocking access to the trigger. If you’re in the act of shooting the gun, the saftey routinely gets in the way and requires training in an extra step before firing, something that could be a problem in an emergency. A common way to lose a violent encounter while carrying a gun is to fail to actually shoot your gun.
A rifle needs a safety because there’s no good way to block accidental trigger pulls like that, since you have to open carry to have any reasonable amount of access.
If you’re in the act of shooting the gun, the saftey routinely gets in the way and requires training in an extra step before firing,
Sounds like a good thing to me. How long could it possibly take?
It’s not actually the amount of time that it takes that’s the problem. With pistols that have safeties, the proper training is (usually) to turn the safety off when raising the gun. The problem is that it’s a critical step you can mess up or forget to do under stress. Then you’re left with a dead trigger having just pulled a gun in a situation you viewed as dangerous enough to require shooting someone. You’re also stressed to hell and unlikely to think “oh yes, my safety!” Throw in that these kinds of situations are ones where half a second can make a big difference, and the saftey is just another thing that can go wrong.
There’s certainly tradeoffs, since not having a safety means it’s more likely your mistakes will result in a round being fired, but you can layer other procedures and devices to minimize that risk. In the end, it’s a feature that even the gun community can’t agree on, which is why some guns have them and some don’t.
Depends on the situation? Taking time isn’t as important as establishing intent.
If you’re in the act of shooting the gun, the saftey routinely gets in the way and requires training in an extra step before firing, something that could be a problem in an emergency. A common way to lose a violent encounter while carrying a gun is to fail to actually shoot your gun.
i have a massive counter for you. If you aren’t trained well enough to be able to disengage the safety when needed.
you probably shouldn’t be using a gun in an act of self defense
in case you haven’t picked up on what im saying you need to train
The amount of training is kinda-sorta irrelevant. The amount of training you should be putting in is way higher than the amount you need to master the safety. But, the amount of training you need to put in is also high enough that you won’t ever have to rely on the saftey to prevent the gun from firing. So for me, if I can handle the gun without having to rely on a safety, that’s just one less thing that could go wrong and prevent me from firing my gun when I want to.
A pistol can be carried so that either
- the trigger is inaccessible
Or - The gun is in my hand
You also set up your draw-stroke so that there’s no risk of the trigger catching on anything. With those conditions, the only thing a safety would do is prevent you from pulling the trigger. You shouldn’t have your finger on the trigger unless you’ve made the decision to fire, so the safety isn’t adding any value.
The safety does have value on a rifle, where it’s harder to prevent things from hooking inside the trigger guard (since you will be carrying it uncontrolled with the trigger exposed) but a pistol doesn’t have the same manual of arms and, in my opinion, your carry gun shouldn’t have a safety.
The amount of training is kinda-sorta irrelevant. The amount of training you should be putting in is way higher than the amount you need to master the safety. But, the amount of training you need to put in is also high enough that you won’t ever have to rely on the saftey to prevent the gun from firing. So for me, if I can handle the gun without having to rely on a safety, that’s just one less thing that could go wrong and prevent me from firing my gun when I want to.
i guess so but i’d still just argue that you should be training with the safety, such that it’s so second nature to you, it literally wouldn’t matter whether it exists or not.
- the trigger is inaccessible
0% chance of this being real, but that was a fun read
It’s wholly realistic, where I live, autism or not!
autism or not!
Lmaoà, I thought 'tism was patriotism at first because guns + patriots unoe? Autism makes more sense.
That makes a pretty hilarious pun, tbh.
Patriautism.
And on this day, the term patriautism was coined
seems like a fun place! can you tell me where you live so i can (avoid to) go (anywhere near) there? :D
This is America
thanks for being specific
Red state. Nuff said.
this guy’s never heard of Murica
the most unrealistic part is an autist with a gun
Most unrealistic part is existence of women. If they were real, I would have seen one before.
oh god. my first girlfriend’s dad showed me his gun collection the first time I visited the house and I got so absorbed in field stripping his MAK-90 that I forgot she was there
You passed the test. Hope you and your wife had a good honeymoon.
What wife? He’s her step-dad now. That’d be ridiculous.
I mean yeah, funny greentext, fake and gay and all, but is that an actual thing that happens across the big pond?
If someone did that in Europe they’d be in serious legal trouble if the threatened party sues.
Sounds legal overall for America. “Brandishing” is generally illegal, i.e pulling out your gun and pointing it at or actively threatening someone with it, regardless if you fire it.
Pulling out your legal gun in your home and setting it flat on your table? Hard to argue it was a threatening without a stated threat or some other action. It may have been one, but id be suprised if anyone would arrest someone over that.
OP pulling his own gun does make this a hilarious and potentially deadly situation. It’s very possible the father is a scared pissbaby and just starts blasting.
Yeah, I was gonna say we’re past the point of legality being the biggest concern in that situation.
Either way that guy is not coming to my wedding
So, what do we Europeans whip out and place on the coffee table to make a statement?
Cock
Spotted dick
No way, that’s only after the 5th family date
Nah the second one is in a sauna
And too obvious and not specific to European c***.
A bottle of wine. Good wine preferably.
Health insurance policies
Hmm, you’d think that. But actually health insurance works here. It’s nothing to brag about. I rarely hear people talking about it. At least not more than they talk about their households contents insurance. (I mean guns in the USA also aren’t something exceptional… so you might have a point.)
I’m sure people who have good health insurance in the US don’t see it as an issue. But what about all the others?
“Health insurance works… … nothing to brag about”
Ah, the elite countries with their made up issues /s
Nah guns are more like dutch bicycles. Yes we all have several, but each is important and must be talked about
Beans on toast.
I severely doubt English degeneracy reflects anywhere else in Europe.
Haha. Good point. Universal healthcare then?
Barftastic
Yes. Unless it’s done well.
A cheese wheel?
Water pistols. (Optionally modified to shoot liquid nitrogen)
While it sounds badass “shooting” liquid nitrogen is in fact quite useless. Source: i had liquid nitrogen poured over my hands at room temp. It just feels like cold water as it quickly evaporates before actually touching it.
See video for example and when it acts different.
It’s not meant to cause too much damage. If I wanted that I’d attach a match to the front and shoot fuel instead but that sounds even less legal.
Knives?
Never had someone point a gun at me like that, but I dated a girl in college that had a dickhead 2nd amendment gun nut dad who never missed an opportunity to mention he had guns and wasn’t afraid to use them if I “didn’t take good care of his daughter.” It didn’t intimidate me in the slightest though, and just let me know he was a scared, insecure loser.
I had just finished my range day and I had my guns stripped for cleaning when my step daughter dropped of my son for his weekend visit with her boyfriend.
I wasn’t trying to flex or anything, but I did find it funny. Luckily she married a different guy after college.
“Step daughter dropped of my son” has a real Alabama vibe.
Just a few southern states, and outliers. But really, not so much now. It happened once when I was a kid and the dad was an asshole, so I married his daughter to spite him. Couple decades later and I regret that marriage and wish I would have went with my first instinct and asked if he wanted me to clean it because it was dirty.
This idiotic bullshit happens all over, it’s just more concentrated in the South.
This happened to a friend of mine from the UK in fixing Minnesota. He had NO context for what was happening and almost shit his pants.
It’s by dudes that claim to have fucked a lot of bitches in their early years. It’s not as serious as it sounds. Well. The best part is reminding them of what they claim they did if they talk like that.
They almost never have their guns at work.
Isn’t it tradition?
LOL no they wouldn’t. Unless your kitchen has a camera, it’d be practically impossible to prove.
Thanks for sharing the rest of the post. But I’m confused about who is speaking what during the last three lines after “even on our dates”.
GF: “Did you always have a gun?”
Anon: “I always carry”
GF: “Even on our dates? Did you think I was gonna rob you or something?”
Anon: “Muggers don’t wait until it’s convienient for you to get robbed, you know?”
GF: “Oh that makes sense.”
GF, Anon, GF.
Anon, then anon, then gf
Girl: even on our dates
2A bro: did you think I was gonna mug you? Why would I wait?
Girl: got it
That better?
Though it makes it even less believable. Most dads I know that might do that have daughters that would appreciate it lol
“Did you think I was gonna mug you?” came from the girl, not 2A bro
Hm. Mayhaps.
Tbh i dont understand this. Probably because im european plus im tired but i cant figure it out.
Dad shows a gun to show OP he’s a badass. Op doesn’t realize and shows his gun.
Common American culture is that you’re supposed to show your gun on the third date with the family, not the first. You’re also supposed to have a Mexican standoff when you walk into the house, with dad aiming at you, you’re aiming at dad, dog aims at GF, etc. And if he’s lucky, they have a rousing game of Russian roulette before tapas.
Totally understandable if you didn’t know. Just basic 2A knowledge every American learns about during elementary school.
Thanks for explaining the culture, they never show real America in the movies
Yeah. Real America sounds tougher than Sons of Anarchy
Leave it to Hollywood to sanitize real American living and make it so kid friendly!
It’s important to remember if you’re ever in Los Angeles, New York, or Miami, all three of the major American cities.
I guess this is where the concept of the “nuclear family” comes from then? After the initial courtship hostilities, the escalation of the arms race is inevitable.
Yes, by the time you have a steady relationship you’re at a place of Mutually Assured Dating
dad aiming at you, you’re aiming at dad, dog aims at GF, etc.
The Aristocrats!
You start learning it in day care depending on the region
So are those armoured backpacks for children considered cheating?
Some people can afford better load outs. Normal p2w bullshit.
Yeah, it does Give them a slightly unfair advantage over the active shooter, that’s why the cops had to wait, they were required to give them a head start.
A surprising amount of rules involved in it.
Cheapskate parents, actually. Most parents get their kids a BALCS carrier with level III soft inserts, some ESAPI plates, and a level III or IIIa helmet. But some parents cheap out and just get their kid a backpack and split a set of plates between kids.
They taught me in kindergarten
what the fuck
The first sentence is real, the rest is just a fun bit of hyperbole. It really is not that common for an overprotective father to brandish a gun at his daughter’s new boyfriend, but it has happened enough times to become something of a trope.
To give you a slightly more serious answer, there’s a trope in America of the girl friend’s dad doing something to “subtly intimidate” the boy friend by casually cleaning a gun or having one within sight the first time they meet. The implication of course is supposed to be something along the lines of “I’ve got this and if you try anything funny with my daughter, I’ll use it on you”
It’s dumb but I’ve also known more than a few people who have experienced this first hand.
It gives say-no-to-me-or-any-other-male-in-my-fam-and-we’ll-dump-acid-on-you vibes
Yeah, I went to senior prom with my friend. I didn’t have a license or a car yet, so my aunt drove us there in her baseball team van, and she was gonna drive us both home too. Suuuper romantic. Her dad met us there, pulled me aside to show me his little pocket knife and threatened to castrate me. I just laughed at him. We were both virgins, so far as I knew. While in hindsight she had a crush on me, I was way too awkward, nerdy, religious, and oblivious to realize. Sex never even crossed my mind as a possibility.
It’s a thing that basic dickhead fathers look forward to doing; threatening their daughter’s boyfriend in case he ever thinks he and his girlfriend might ever want to have sex.
Hell, that could work fine. At least there’s one big button issue they would agree on for sure.
Is this an euphemism of both putting their penis out on the table?
What? No, literal guns. The hell?
Actual penises would probably be more normal…
No that’s “muh hog”
I am pretty sure I am not allowed to pull out and place even an airsoft gun on the table where I live. The rules clearly state that it must be kept locked in a safe. That would be an easy way to get someone’s license revoked if you record it…
Welcome to America
Airsoft license?
They must not be Americans. I envy them, but at least when I eat my own weight in pizza it’s actually good pizza.
I’m blessed by the insurance gods. Guns, abortions and insurance. Pizza is also kinda nice.
Yes?
Yup. You first prove that you are sane and have no criminal background, your local government provides you with a certificate for that. And then you acknowledge that you know the rules and stuff. The final step is paying a small yearly fee.
For the 'lil plastic pellets? Or the similarly-sized lead ones?
I don’t think this is legal basically anywhere. In the US, this would be brandishing or threatening with a deadly weapon.
It’d be hard to prove brandishing. As another poster said, it’s a legal weapon, in the homeowners abode, placed on the table, not pointed at or waived at the person, with nothing said around it. It’d be really hard to prove anything. He’ll, look at the white couple that was literally brandishing their guns and they almost got away with it.
Anon does say it was facing him
Which is poor gun handling, but I’m not sure you could get your licence taken away for it.
What license?
Yeah, in Texas at least, you don’t need a license to have a gun in your own house or car.
Yeah maybe. Doesn’t seem to stop redneck fathers of teenage girls in conservative states. They consider it a rite of passage for fatherhood.
My FIL did a gun cleaning night when I was first taking his daughter out on dates. Had 3 guns disassembled on the kitchen table and let me know they’d be reassembled by the time I brought her home. He’s a really nice guy, but yes, that shit is “normal” in the US
It isn’t normal, the weirdos just think everyone else acts like them.
Back in my college days I was picking a GF up from her dads house and walked up to him sitting on the porch with a rifle in his lap. He was cool with me but it was still awkward. I was just like “… shooting stuff?”. “God damn squirrels won’t stay out of my garden”.
I had a high school girlfriend whose dad pulled that bullshit. I realized quickly that I didn’t like her enough to deal with that level of crazy.
Yeah, you can do that in your own house pretty easily.
Ok
Is that a “who has a bigger dick” competiton ?
No, whose is smaller.
Chad move!
There’s my daily literal lol. Thanks OP!
Buckshot Roulette IRL
I’d love to know what happened next. I’m sure it was a hoot.
I actually remember this one being much longer. IIRC, dad starts yelling that he “won’t be threatened in his own house”, anon gets confused and tries to explain, mom starts yelling, he leaves the house, gf gets mad at him for even having the gun, asking how long he’s been carrying it with him.
That’d be hilarious, as it confirms that the dad wanted to intimidate anon by pulling out his gun and in turn got intimidated by anon’s gun.
Found the full thing:
Lmaoà, the escalation reminds me of that Tumblr thread about making tea.
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev, from CHS by the way?
I don’t know what CHS is so I’m not sure what you mean by that (then again that might answer your question maybe :P).
then again that might answer your question maybe :P
Haha, Canadian Hardware Swap.
Yeah, I suppose it do answer my question 🥲Haha I’m not Canadian and live about an ocean away from there, so definitely not me 😋. Lovely place though, I should visit sometime (and swap hardware I guess 😅).
its honestly funnier without
Everyone stood up and clapped.
Can confirm, i’m that gun.
place my gun on coffee table too
Was it a Derringer chambered in .50 Action Express? 😏
I like to imagine it’s a long gun. Pulled from hammerspace.
I like to imagine it’s a long gun. Pulled from hammerspace.
😏
