The conflict between Swedish unions and Tesla heated up on Friday as a supplier of critical components joined in a sympathy action to get the electric car maker to sign a collective bargaining agreement for its Swedish workers.
I’ve been learning a lot about Sweden as a result of this. Suprisingly, or not so suprisingly since piling on Tesla is so popular, there is very little reporting on the Sweden part.
In 1995 Sweden did the same thing to Toys R Us.
In Sweden their culture dominates over law. What they call sympathy strikes such as the government owned postal system striking against a single targeted company, despite having no direct relationship, is illegal throughout most of the world.
The Swedish view is it’s not the government postal system striking, it’s the postal union striking against a single target. To me that’s simply a word game of no difference and would be illegal almost anywhere but Sweden.
Sweden says the union is voluntary but the entire country will come for you in mob rule if you don’t participate. Again, apparently legal in Sweden if nowhere else.
From the exchanges I’ve had, it seems the Swedish union culture effectively controls the government and is perfectly willing to drive Tesla out of the country to protect their union power base. Toys R Us eventually gave in to the Swedish mob extortion, I can speculate several possibilities as to Tesla but really I have no idea.
The Swedish view is it’s not the government postal system striking, it’s the postal union striking against a single target. To me that’s simply a word game of no difference
One is a decision taken by the management. The other is a decision taken by the workers, who choose to ignore their orders from the management.
That is a fundamental difference, not just a word game.
If tesla wants to play with workers like they do in the US of A, by all means they should be driven out. There is no space for corporate slavery in the future
I will not wall of text you too much. But basically low end jobs are built in a way to make people as replaceable as possible. That is also the reason why capitalism in its current form needs a certain amount of unemployed people, otherwise it won’t work. Now you have low skilled people who are in desperate need of a job, because the US of A has no social security system what so ever. So the threat of unemployment and homelessness makes them ideal slaves. It’s even better than the slaves of old. Because back then you had to at least try and see to it that they don’t die. Nowadays it makes no difference what so ever, since you can easily pick up people who are right now out of a job.
Counter point, in jobs with low to zero unemployment you can see that the employee is payed and respected much better. In IT for example it’s pretty much impossible to not find a job, since there are more jobs than people who are at least somewhat adept at the job.
The only thing that you need to know is that the Swedish unions have destroyed the Swedish car manufacturers. Saab had to be sold off to GM who promptly killed it, and Volvo has been purchased by a Chinese company, who will also kill it, once their needs have been met.
I’m sure that was all because of unions and had absolutely nothing to do with the auto market consolidating into a few large groups over the past decades. How many independent small (non-luxury) car makers still exist in the world?
I’ve been learning a lot about Sweden as a result of this. Suprisingly, or not so suprisingly since piling on Tesla is so popular, there is very little reporting on the Sweden part.
In 1995 Sweden did the same thing to Toys R Us.
In Sweden their culture dominates over law. What they call sympathy strikes such as the government owned postal system striking against a single targeted company, despite having no direct relationship, is illegal throughout most of the world.
The Swedish view is it’s not the government postal system striking, it’s the postal union striking against a single target. To me that’s simply a word game of no difference and would be illegal almost anywhere but Sweden.
Sweden says the union is voluntary but the entire country will come for you in mob rule if you don’t participate. Again, apparently legal in Sweden if nowhere else.
From the exchanges I’ve had, it seems the Swedish union culture effectively controls the government and is perfectly willing to drive Tesla out of the country to protect their union power base. Toys R Us eventually gave in to the Swedish mob extortion, I can speculate several possibilities as to Tesla but really I have no idea.
“I’ve been learning a lot about Sweden as a result of this.”
Well, I’m speechless.
One is a decision taken by the management. The other is a decision taken by the workers, who choose to ignore their orders from the management.
That is a fundamental difference, not just a word game.
This has been explained to that user multiple times across multiple threads on this topic, and they refuse to learn.
“… and they refuse to learn*.*”
I believe the word you’re looking for is comply.
The irony of suggesting you’re being made to “comply” because the Swedes aren’t acting the way Americans have been told to.
Yet again you’ve reversed it. You are demanding that I accept your view with anything else a refusal to learn.
If tesla wants to play with workers like they do in the US of A, by all means they should be driven out. There is no space for corporate slavery in the future
Please explain how you perceive corporate slavery taking place.
I will not wall of text you too much. But basically low end jobs are built in a way to make people as replaceable as possible. That is also the reason why capitalism in its current form needs a certain amount of unemployed people, otherwise it won’t work. Now you have low skilled people who are in desperate need of a job, because the US of A has no social security system what so ever. So the threat of unemployment and homelessness makes them ideal slaves. It’s even better than the slaves of old. Because back then you had to at least try and see to it that they don’t die. Nowadays it makes no difference what so ever, since you can easily pick up people who are right now out of a job.
Counter point, in jobs with low to zero unemployment you can see that the employee is payed and respected much better. In IT for example it’s pretty much impossible to not find a job, since there are more jobs than people who are at least somewhat adept at the job.
He can’t. That was a silly take Thant can’t be backed up with any fact…
The only thing that you need to know is that the Swedish unions have destroyed the Swedish car manufacturers. Saab had to be sold off to GM who promptly killed it, and Volvo has been purchased by a Chinese company, who will also kill it, once their needs have been met.
I’m sure that was all because of unions and had absolutely nothing to do with the auto market consolidating into a few large groups over the past decades. How many independent small (non-luxury) car makers still exist in the world?
Yeah you don’t understand the system at all and need to read up more