A perfectly good meme but I would say it might still presume a little too much good faith.
They’re not undecided. They want to vote for Trump and are desperately hoping for a socially acceptable reason to do so.
It’s only them and God in the voting booth. What’s stopping them?
I think you answered yourself with the question. Someone better with words could make an OK joke out of it.
Four more days. And then another year? Maybe ten?
It’s exhausting.
Virginian here. It’s every year for us. State positions are in the odd years.
Apparently putting a huge number of people in jail for minor possession of a drug that is only illegal because of racist 70s politics is spotless, and doing so to support capitalizing the prison system, is spotless. I call it dehumanizing and unconstitutional, but I just care about empirical data that apparently is completely unimportant in tribalist capitalist worshiping countries like the USA.
I don’t count “spotless prosecutorial record” as a win, but given the two viable choices I’ll take it over “shockingly successful fascist demagogue” every time, and twice on Sundays.
I holding my finger over the button as long as possible in the hope that the button that the “spotless prosecutorial record” will suddenly add the “stop abetting a genocide” portion we’ve been asking for since before they changed out the previous button, but I guess I’ll be going for the option that isn’t currently telling me how my existence is threatening to them and hope that they’ll follow through on valuing human life this time around.
Agree on your points, I honestly fucking hate cops and by extension prosecutors that enable and collude with them. However the only other option is worse than a pig.
Countless was a little under 2000 people (at least as far as Harris is concerned) That’s about half of what her predecessor in the same office did over roughly the same time period.
Now, that conviction is for “possession, sale, or cultivation”. Most paid a fine rather than serve jail time. We also don’t know the exact breakdown of possession vs sale vs cultivation.
We also know that Harris pushed for decriminalization and legalization in California, and has pushed some of the same as vice president. I think Joe is the roadblock there, even if he was convinced to pardon a bunch of people for simple possession.
Her record is not spotless tbh.
Anyway, easy solution to the problem: ban Trump and the GOP. Bam, fascism is no more.
Well, fascism will still exist if you ban Trump and GOP.
deleted by creator
The US has no mechanisms to ban political parties
and the constitution was basically i intended to prevent banning a party just because the current administration dislikes them.
You not only need to vote for the candidate of their choice, you also need to match whatever they pick. Yey! Democracy!
Enter to win!
Prices included: " new president!"
Rules:
-Pick whoever you want
-If the electoral college picks the person you picked, then congratulations! You picked the winner 🏆🏆🏆🏆!
-if the electoral college picks someone else, then congratulations! You got a different president than the one you picked because your vote is worthless!
Yey! Democracy!
But do go vote, this is just a sarcastic comment about the stupid way we pick…the electoral college picks presidents for us like kings. The rest of the ballot is full of things that you do actually vote for, like local representatives, education leaders, district judges etc. Only the presidential election is not actually your thing. The rest of it is probably more important anyway so who cares if the electoral college picks Mexico’s president to be our president. They could pick Kim Jung Un, but our president is usually a lame duck anyway the entire time due to the Republican party cock blocking their every move…like your student loans! Remember those? The fucking republican party block all attempts so far. But again, don’t worry about it, it’s not our thing. Let’s let the electoral college to worry about it.
The rest of the ballot is full of things […] like local representatives, education leaders, district judges etc.
Maybe OT, but I’ve been watching a lot of voting advice on twitter, reddit, etc this year, and whenever someone mentions how important it is to get educated about your local options on the ballot, they get a flood of comments accusing them of encouraging people to abstain from voting or to vote 3rd party. It appears to be one limb of an aggressive anti-vote apathy or disinfo campaign.
Not sure if it’s OT, but we definitely forget that the ballot affects you more personally within the other non presidential elections. Like the president, ultimately is just a guy. He’s not gonna come here locally and fix my potholes. It’s the local guy who does that shit. That’s the election we should be really keen on. And then sure, let’s build some more raptors and finish North Korea indirectly somehow before they do something stupid.
That’s not at all how the EC works.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Selection_process
I get that we might have different opinions. But if you told me right now that you will vote as I want you to vote as my representative I would have a very realistically hard time believing you. You should probably never meet me in person and state that anywhere nearby and expect me not to laugh my ass off at you.
It’s not a matter of opinion. You’re misrepresenting how the EC works.
It isn’t a good system, but it’s also nothing like you characterized it.
Slates of electors are chosen to represent parties by the parties themselves, often in party conventions or primaries, and typically from a pool of people who are incredibly loyal to the party. That is even more true of smaller parties, as they tend to be more invested in their particular beliefs than the major parties.
Faithless electors are, so far, practically a non-factor in modern elections in the US. There are mechanisms in place in most cases that either invalidate their vote or outright remove and replace them. I can only cite one time in history that there was a significant impact, when the Virginia electors withheld their votes for Van Buren’s VP Richard M. Johnson. He had to be elected by the Senate due to the 23 withheld votes keeping him from a majority in the EC. That was in 1836.
Then why have electors at all? Why not just get together and state “we have 10 electoral votes for Kamela”. There’s no actual need to have a person who’s job is to literally walk to a place fill a bubble and put it in the envelope box.
I don’t care how the system works to vote for president. All I know is that it’s not my vote and I am a citizen. Can you say that’s a misrepresented statement? “It’s not my vote that elects a president” that is 100% true.
I’ll point back to you saying this:
the electoral college picks presidents for us like kings
Which is, for lack of a better way to put it, simply bullshit.
I’ll also point to you saying this:
I don’t care how the system works to vote for president.
Which sounds like willful ignorance about the election process. I don’t think that’s a position to be proud of.
You ask why we even have electors at all, as if that’s some sort of big “gotcha” monent. I already clearly stated that I don’t think it’s a particularly good system, especially coupled with FPTP and winner-talke-all. What it is, though, is the system we have, so understanding it is pretty vital.
Technically speaking, no, you do not directly vote for a presidential candidate in the general election. In practice, your vote almost certainly will be represented by the electors you vote for if your chosen candidate wins your state or if you live in Nebraska or Maine. Certainly, the electors could be removed entirely from the process while electoral votes remain. That would remove one unnecessary part of the equation, but would it solve anything?
Here’s the real fun: winner-take-all. It’s more damaging than indirect election. Let’s pretend you live in one of three districts that vote for (electors pledged to) Alice, one in a landslide and two hotly contested. But the other two districts in your state elect (electors pledged to) Bob. The statewide popular vote is close but slightly in favor of Bob. Congrats, all seven of your states EC votes go to Bob even though your district overwhelmingly supported Alice, and she won 60% of the districts. Who needs faithless electors when your vote can truly not count for anything? This is how WTA is worse for democracy than electors.
Okay now let’s imagine we did have awesome candidates to choose from not just Kamela, the orange back of peanut Grease and the several others in the list that were never mentioned except for a couple of times when they explained why only Kamela and Trump were in the debates. If let’s say we had two really strong republicans that could get democratic votes against two really strong democrats who could easily get republican votes…how could my vote as a Democrat count at all if I voted for one of the republicans but then I happened to be in a democratic state like Texas (lol. Let’s pretend Texas had mostly democratic electors). Like you mentioned, the electoral vote would be winner takes whatever…all or some. My individual vote is either diluted via population and number of representatives per stated, or eaten up by Jerrymandering or whatever. I say fuck the electoral college, count all the damn votes and make the popular vote win.
Having some sort of mechanism that requires attention to be paid to areas other than high-population centers is probably a good thing. In the system we have now, it swings too far in the other direction by giving some disproportionate power to small pop red states and even more to battleground states. A shift away from WTA, along with replacing FPTP with STAR voting, would be more impactful than abolishing the EC. Even better would be adjusting the size of the House to better normalize the population of districts.
There have been hundreds of attempts to abolish or change the EC. It’s really looking like our best options for real reform are STAR voting and proportional representation.
deleted by creator
Yeah, that’s too complicated for me. I think I just won’t vote at all.
She’s already said she will continue arming Israel, which is a felony at this point.
Proudly proclaiming she will commit a felony day one is a good indication of how I expect the rest of her term to go.
The Leahy Law for those interested.
What felony exactly? If that’s a felony, that would be great, because then we can finally hold gun manufacturers and owners who sell their firearms fully responsible.
She’s not even president.
Hey, never mind the fact though that Walz is feeding school kids, they’re getting tampons in bathrooms and plan to finally tax the rich more, help the poor and increase minimum wage
Im sure people who are struggling to get dinner on their table are more concerned about foreign policy
She’s declaring intent to violate Leahy Law.
But I guess a blood sacrifice is an acceptable trade off for school lunches. It’s just arab kids, right? /s
https://theintercept.com/2024/05/10/biden-attorneys-legal-weapons-israel/
The Leahy Laws or Leahy amendments are U.S. human rights laws that prohibit the U.S. Department of State and Department of Defense.
So it’s actually applied against those 2 offices, not the executive branch.
And again, she wants a ceasefire…
You have no way of knowing what’s happening in the background, only what you read about in the news
It doesn’t matter what she says she wants. If she authorizes more weapons sales, she’s in violation of both international and domestic law.
Which law again?
As mentioned, Leahy’s law isn’t executive branch it seems according to Wikipedia. So you need to take it up with you Pentagon…
My ballot had 3 options: Kamala Harris, Donald Trump and Robert Kennedy, Jr.
Write-ins are not allowed in Indiana.
Who should I have voted for?
That’s weird, Chase Oliver should’ve been on your ballot.
I’m sorry, you’re right. They are on it too.
deleted by creator
Spotless record? Could you simp any harder?
Kamala has a crimal record?
If we lived in a just country she would.
…and then, all of a sudden, Democrats started loving overzealous DAs who would do anything to put black men in prison.
Are these “Democrats” in the room with you right now?
Are these the same “Democrats” that faked Obama’s birth certificate?
Are these “Democrats” turning the frogs gay?
I’m sure pretending the blue candidate isn’t complicit in genocide is a great strategy to convincing more voters.
Unfortunately we are in the same position with both candidates. You can’t be President of the US and have clean hands
True but the meme claims “spotless record” which is not true
I guess when both candidates have “Genocide Participant” credits it no longer matters to compared that specific item.
Say that back to yourself out loud, and see if it still sounds right.
Disarming Israel is not on the ballot. I wish it were, but we are where we are. Comparing the candidates on issues where they do differ significantly makes the decision pretty easy.
I guess we’ll see in 4 days if disarming Israel should have been on the ballot.
deleted by creator
What for? There are absolutely no real options to avoid the Israel/Palestine conflict. So as an adult who understands that there are some things I can and cannot influence I move on to those I can influence.
One candidate is leagues above the other.
Anyone who says “well your candidate will be bad for Israel/Palestine” is being disingenuous because both will suck. Thats bait and a distraction.
Going 3rd party or abstaining from voting are both stupid approaches.
I voted for Harris. Did you know there are ways to advocate for Harris without excusing the genocide?
Pretending the red candidate isn’t a secret selling multi-count rapist Nazi has been working out just fine.
Tell me again, what are Jane Steins accomplishments?
Removed by mod
a bit ridiculous to mention here since the alternative wants to unleash the fucking military on US citizens.
Biden made it legal for military personnel to use lethal force on American civilians… Maybe Harris doesn’t care. But Biden and Trump seem to both like the idea of killing citizens with the military.
No, he really didn’t. First of all, that would have to be done by congress. Second of all, the changes made were to rules within the military itself, and they did the exact opposite. Further restrictions were put in on how the military command structure would authorize engagements related to exceptions that have always been part of the Posse Comitatus Act. You were either fooled by the right wing spin machine, or you are part of it.
You’re right I’ve gone and checked. It wasn’t a new thing just clarifying that to use lethal force would require the secretary of defenses approval.
Little clarifying language changes are common it’s true.
The worst part is the old nugget that every right wing accusation is really a confession. They have every intention of abusing military power against US citizens and want to muddy the waters first to make it another “both sides” thing.
Thanks for checking into it instead of doubling down. We need that today more than we ever have.
It’s always a confession from basically anyone in upper level gov. In a funny way I wish it was actually true that it was always a confession though. Imagine if the Republicans were the communist socialist lefties they accuse the Dems of being constantly. That’d be fun.
But yes I’m down to improve my understanding of facts if they are lacking. Hardly need another reason to hate the military. May as well be accurate about it.
I believe the spectrum from capitalism to communism (as both are generally understood) is an illusion and a distraction. In capitalism, capital eventually captures and controls government. In communism, (as it has materialized in the past) the government captures and controls capital. Capital and government become one in either case.
Relating this to Republicans, they are absolutely in favor of the union of corporate and government power. The aspects of communism that they rant about are exactly what they want to bring about. That’s how fascism and totalitarianism work.
A true social revolution must empower the people at the “bottom” to make decisions about their own lives as much as possible. The only justifiable excuse to take liberty away from individuals is to protect the liberty of others.
The society the right dreams of is exactly what we have seen under communist regimes, just with different branding. It’s just authoritarianism.
sure bb they will both do the same thing, and putin will announce his gay love interest
Neither is a cop?
Generalizations about any group is stupid.
Apparently you’re a nazi if you vote for either, so you should just not vote
- totally not an astroturfer
what does the guy who’s openly threatening the future of American democracy think about my taxes
He thinks your taxes are too low and billionaires taxes are too high!
I was JUST thinking my taxes are too low!
Well fuck you bro! My code sucks harder!
Oh, really?
function add(x, y) { let b=x; while(b < x+y) { b++; } return b; }
Hmmmm
he promises a tax plan that will not materially improve things for you or i and a reduction in the things that taxes go towards that benefit us
and the people that stand to lose the most because of him call him their God emperor and vote for him
With a more representative electoral system, we could have more then two buttons. First-past-the-post voting is mathematically flawed and will always result in a two party system, which is why we must replace it as soon as we can.
Yall believe in democracy right?
I’m with you. What’s your plan?
Vote for the partiesand candidates that support ranked choice
I’ve started a gofundme.
👷♂️
🏦🚜
There is a method that already exists. There are states that have signed an agreement where once enough states sign on to it, it automatically will go into effect. https://youtu.be/dFZyFmILb5w?si=rpQMxbgnNAjltx8X
That has nothing to do with this. That’s the interstate popular vote compact and all it does is make the winner of the popular vote the winner of the election. It does absolutely nothing to end two party dominance, and continues all of the exact same flaws of the existing system but without the electoral college, and even that only in the unlikely event that the compact survives the inevitable challenge in the supreme court. You still only get one vote for one candidate and it comes necessarily at the expense of any others.
You’re right I spose, but It’s the first step. Every time the ec elected a Republican in the last 25 years, a dem won the popular vote.
Once Dems actually start winning, Then you have the ability to make changes. There are already states that have implemented ranked choice voting.
I mean, winning isn’t the last step. The democrats are more likely to implement anything meaningful than the republicans, but we’re still going to have to drag them kicking and screaming into doing it. If everyone breathes a sigh of relief and relaxes on November 7th nothing will change. The real work STARTS then.
Exactly right that’s what I mean
First past the post voting is the cheapest and fastest use of taxpayer dollars. Must we overburden our poorest districts with purchasing requirements for fancy smancy vote counting machines? /s
In fact, this whole elections thing is just so expensive, a burdensome cost to the people. Wouldn’t you prefer to save money and enjoy the reduced risk with knowing a qualified expert is running things (\s)
(this legit is how the Heritage Foundation sounds)
