I’d be furious too, having such incompetent, out-of-touch advisors. This article alludes to it but others have gone more in-depth: Biden’s advisors keep telling him the economy is great, the problem is messaging: the American people just haven’t heard how great it is. Telling people struggling to pay their bills every month that they’re better off than they were four years ago isn’t messaging, it’s gaslighting. His advisors should be telling him the truth, that the economy is only good on paper, that while the “haves” are living large the “have nots” are not only struggling, their ranks are quickly growing. Don’t get me wrong, anyone who votes for Trump because they think he’ll do better at economic issues is a moron, but history shows that a lot of people are going to go this route come November at the current pace of things. And Biden’s advisors are just as moronic if they don’t understand this.
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This guy thinks.
I thought you were going to say that history shows a lot of people are morons.
I mean, history does show this too.
I would imagine that the people who voted for Trump were angry.
Some of that angry is genuine (Washington only represents the rich, lack of social mobility, wealth inequality, etc.) Here comes someone who doesn’t talk like a politician, promises action that resonates with their anger (punish China for taking manufacturing jobs, force companies to operate in America, rip up NAFTA, put America first economically, etc.) Trump is extremely charismatic. Voting for Trump becomes a political action to send a message to everyone. A big ol’ fuck you message.
Then are those who voted for Trump because they saw in Trump the same racist, xenophobic, anti-LGBTQ, and hate that they have.
After four years of nothing except chaos and hate filled policies. People wanted go back to the status quo of government not being in chaos and being run competently. What people didn’t want was return to economic status quo.
While Biden’s government has be run competently and hasn’t been a four years of a soap opera drama. The Democrats have mostly upheld the economic status quo. Any changes made to the status quo will arguably take time to manifest. It’s hard to be optimistic that the situation will get better when we’re going through a cost of living crisis, home ownership is dead, social mobility will never happen, etc. People expected changes to happen. Those changes ain’t happening now. If anything people have gotten angrier.
I know Lemmy isn’t a major bellwether of the internet. We’re outliers. However being the outliers means we can be signs of things to come. Post anything about the rich and there will be comments about guillotines. If the more radical people are saying that, chances are more moderate people are thinking it.
People are once again in the position of do we vote for the candidate who mostly upholds the status quo while making changes that takes time to feel or the candidate is a big, giant fuck you to the Democrats and knows how people to play on people’s anger.
If the Democrats had did massive, radical change there’s a chance the situation would be different. Messaging isn’t going to fix this. People’s feelings do not care about facts.
Telling me facts about wages are going up, inflation is going down, etc. Doesn’t mean diddly squat when I feel like I will never retire, own a home, take vacations, etc.
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No wonder he’s frustrated.
Biden’s advisors keep telling him the economy is great, the problem is messaging
That’s literally fucking true though, all the data proves it, surveys even show that individuals consider their own circumstances to be better than in previous years but they assume they’re the exception and that the economy is shit.
No wonder he’s frustrated.
the economy is only good on paper
The economy is literally just paper.
The economy is literally just paper.
People’s ability to buy bread is not just a paper problem. Prices have gone up across the board, out of step with earnings, housing is beyond unaffordable to the point that multiple generations are having to accept that they will never own a home. Student debt has been through the roof for years, and now credit card debt is soaring.This economy is not even close to healthy for the median American.
All of that is quantifiable on paper.
Really all the data proves it? What is the relationship between minimum wage and average rental cost now and four years ago?
I asked about minimum wage not about cherry picked stats.
Asking specifically about minimum wage and only about minimum wage is cherry picking stats.
Tell me that you never had to pay rent on minimum wage without telling me.
I know I read somewhere that the GOP gets a boost during economic downturns because they are perceived as willing to make cuts required to fix things.
Yes I am well aware, person angrily typing a reply, that the perception isn’t accurate.
Considering it’s him or “bloodbath for the country” McGee, I think we are all angry and anxious about it.
Getting real tired of choosing between bad and worse, and knowing full well if I don’t support bad I’ll get stuck with worse because of the duopoly.
Outside of Gaza, I think Biden has done a surprisingly good job. A lot of shit landed on his plate and he’s dealt with it better than most presidents would have.
And while he may not be as progressive as many progressives would like him to be, I feel he’s been more progressive than most ever expected him to be…which is pleasantly surprising, since it’s not a course he had to take for political reasons.
Yeah… i kinda feel this is more bc of increasing pressure via political climate, givenhis record in the senate, which also seems to go under the radar.
If he hadn’t he would have lost all support from people who actually voted for him. Minimal effort is effort I guess.
I completely disagree.
I think even if he had gone more to the center, he wouldn’t have lost any significant portion of the progressive vote he did get, and I think this holds true this year as well. (And at that, a shift to the middle would likely have netted him more votes pulled from disillusioned non-MAGA moderate Republicans in 2020 than he lost far left Lemmy-user votes).
Having the name Donald Trump on the other side of the ballot is sufficiently powerful motivation for most reasonable progressives to “hold their nose and cast their ballot” for Biden. It might be a very different story if Biden were running against, say, a John Kasich or Larry Hogan, but that’s not what we’ve got. In that case, many on the left wing may see it more as a “both sides are the same so I’m voting third party to make a statement” election…but again, this isn’t that. In 2020 and now again in 2024, the choice is more accurately, “not making much ground on progressive causes” vs “regression on all fronts, combined with an attack on democracy, emboldening of fascists, racists, and militant bigots of all stripes”.
…and personally, if a progressive can look at that decision and think they’re basically the same thing…I see that as only slightly less disappointing than a loud and proud MAGA zombie.
Seeing the sheer stupidity of the left wing is making me question democracy.
Seeing the sheer stupidity of most Lemmy users who proudly align themselves as leftists is making me question leftists in general.
If people really followed Biden’s attempts to rein in Bibi, they would have a LOT more appreciation of his efforts too. Netanyahu is a madman yet Israel still needs protection.
It seems to me that it really strains credulity to suggest that the US has no further ability to reign in Natanyahu, especially if Isreal needs protection that badly. They basically depend on the US for their existence, but they also have the US over a barrel? How does that square up?
I think the problem is even for people who have followed it, he’s still funding his genocide. I think Biden had helped with the bombing pause and hostage release. But since then, his attempts to rein Bibi in have fallen flat and he’s given a blank check.
You make a good point about what if he stop supporting them and they are attacked. Israel is just as much a victim as Gaza. That would pretty quickly turn back around on Biden from a political perspective too.
Israel needs protection to continue its apartheid. If it ceased its illegal occupation of Gaza and the West Bank and allowed Palestinians to return to their homes per international law, it wouldn’t have nearly so many enemies.
I still think that counts as “less bad,” not “good,” considering pretty much all presidents are absolutely bad.
I agree with you, and I do believe he is working behind the scenes to mitigate the Palestinian genocide.
Unfortunately, outside of Gaza is like saying, outside of the Holocaust. It’s a huge issue.
If my vote counted, I’d vote for him, but I’m calling him genocide Joe for posterity.
So, you would have Biden bomb Israel? Get real, pin the blame on the cause, Bibi.
Of course Netanyahu, his ministers, the IDF and many of the people of Israel are to blame. Biden is also enabling him by sending weapons. How can you ignore that?
It’s awful hard to shoot someone without bullets
I would be too, seeing how effective the anti-intelligence efforts on the American public by the Republicans were.
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Thanks to the electoral college system that remains in place: Biden won 2020 narrowly. Far more narrowly for anyone to be happy or comfortable, least of all Biden.
Thats ridiculous given that something like 8,000,000 more people voted for him but what do I know?
Thats ridiculous given that something like 8,000,000 more people voted for him
Yea, the exiatance of the electoral college is pretty ridiculous.
About the electoral college?
Popular vote does not and did not elect Biden. The margins of a select few districts have the deciding weight for the office of the presidency.
I’m aware of that hence my comment about how crazy it is that someone who got 8 million more votes barely won.
Well that is fine, thanks for clarifying your statement. The thing is the margin of the popular vote is often referenced as a sign that Biden is popular, and when it comes to the actual election process: he isn’t. It is a common misconception that appears to extend all the way to the office of the president of the united states.
The popular vote is a meaningless statistic when it’s not how you win the election.
Good, he was sitting on his ass running on the idea he would win because Trump. I’m not sure about now, but a few weeks ago his campaign page was completely empty on policies that he would run on, literally nothing.
Looks like that’s still the case. His website only seems to be a place where you can donate or volunteer. Guess his campaign is just focused on social media now? I get the potential value in that; it’s like old-school campaigning. But wouldn’t you still want a clear and easy place outside of videos where people can reference your values, accomplishments, and further goals?
wouldn’t you still want a clear and easy place outside of videos where people can reference your values, accomplishments, and further goals?
You would if you had any that align with those of the majority of the population, sure.
Biden’s still living in 1992 like the rest of the DNC leadership, though, and hasn’t changed since he bragged about attending more AIPAC events than any other politician in Washington, was the main proponent of that awful crime bill and advocated for cuts to Medicare and Social Security.
Hell, I’m not even sure he’s changed his NIMBY attitude towards black people since he said of desegregation bussing that he “didn’t want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle”…
Corn Pop was a bad dude, but at least he didn’t ride the bus!
What was the Republican platform of 2020? What is the Republican platform of 2024?
I’m not talking for myself, I’m talking about a friend that pointed that out to me. And that argument wouldn’t work on him, he sees Biden not having his platform listed on his website as a total lack of respect for the voter, regardless of what the Republicans do.
The media would rather see a dictator be elected than be accused of not fully reporting on Biden’s age.
I guess they expect better ratings
He should be.
I know, he needs to step up his game. I want to vote for Dark Brandon.
“Why don’t voters see that genocide is in our nation’s best interest?”
“Why don’t voters care more about stock prices than food prices?”
Unlike the orange baboon, he means well. He’s just so steeped in neoliberalism that he thinks he knows better than we do what we need.
What I want is a president who cares more about Americans than America.
If you want a president that cares more about Americans than America, then you’ll love Joe Biden. If we compare republican to Democrat options of the past, you’d have to go back to Bush senior before you could even find a competitor to Biden. Before that, I think you’re back to Eisenhower.
Biden does the best he can, but the president’s powers are limited. Even when he tries to exercise them faithfully, he’s stopped by the republican supreme court.
To reduce those complex issues to single sentence, overly simplified questions is willfully disengenous.
No one is stopping Biden from ending aid to Israel - not congress, not the supreme court, no one. It is only this administration’s estimation that doing so would lessen our influence in the region that is preventing it.
Biden is angry and frustrated that the American people don’t value retaining and extending regional power in the middle east as much as he does. He cares about us, but doesn’t want us to get in the way. Henry Kissinger may be dead, but he still has a lot of influence.
I know what’s best! Why won’t you peasants just listen?!?!
Again, this is overly simplifying an extremely complex issue, and even in your own words you acknowledge the complexity while sweeping it under the rug.
The choices that are presented to and decided by the president are rarely so easily evaluated and it is hard to believe that a conflict between Isreal and Palestine could be anything but extraordinarily complex.
“It’s very complicated. Don’t think that way. See it the way we’d like you to.”
Yeah, you’re really persuading me here
Pick a side and stop moving the goal posts please.
Or maybe you are enjoying your life in Russia, in which case I wish you the best of luck.
Ending aid to Israel would be ending any chance he has at reelection. This is the sad reality. Online, the vocal minority is quite loud. But in reality, Israel has broad, bi-partisan support in the USA.
Seems it’s more likely to be the opposite of what you’ve said, based on recent polling.
Obama was also up there, in my opinion, but I’m willing to be corrected. He passed the affordable care act, and he could have done much more if it wasn’t because of the republicans opposing him for being Obama. The GOP shut down the government not once, but TWICE, under him, and I’m still bitter about it.
Edit: Downvoted by the GOP. Typical.
I wasn’t very clear, I was onky looking at past republican competitors. Pretty much any recent Democrat has done more to help the general public than republicans have in a long, long time.
I’m not sure who’s done more, Biden or Obama. I think there’s lots to consider there and both of them have been heavily hampered by the regressive republicans.
Unlike the orange baboon, he means well. He’s just so steeped in neoliberalism that he thinks he knows better than we do what we need.
Probably spot on.
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Many people do not start paying to the general until August. A disturbingly large number of people don’t know about any of the incredibly heinous shit Trump has been saying.
It is the responsibility of ALL citizens to be accurately and intelligently informed to help guide their country in a positive direction through the voting process and discussion.
Good luck having success at telling Americans what their responsibilities as citizens are. Do you know how many millions of eligible voters don’t even bother? And have never bothered?
I volunteer for a local Democratic Party board and we are seeing an uptick in volunteer interest quite early. We are preparing by improving our processes so early volunteers get trained well in hopes we have a bigger army for GOTV efforts closer to the general election.
I mention this to say it isn’t hopeless. Voters are made by knowing other voters, it’s a socially reinforced activity. I gotta try anyway
I’m hoping you’re not stuck seeing the ugly part of the voting process. I am curious of how often you had voting locations be hard to setup due to politicians not liking the demographics of the area? Do lots of volunteers see this or is it regulated to a small amount of places?
Obviously, ignore this if you don’t want to answer.
We have had few overt attempts to intimidate voters in Colorado. Candidates don’t get to just pick their voting locations. That’s a very complex decision that involves multiple overlapping government and volunteer organizations.
No, the enemy here isn’t MAGAts flexing at a polling place, it’s apathy among the general populace. A major part of our efforts is just educating people about how it all works, not necessarily getting them to vote a certain way. Finding someone who is willing to engage more fully in the process is how we measure success.
Thank you for your information. Hopefully voters show up.
So now it’s my responsibility to be sad, frustrated, disheartened, and generally grumpy.
Great country we got here.
Ugh at least try to do surreptitious misinformation
Abolish the electoral college. Popular vote now. If Biden wins the popular vote and loses the election we’re going to have serious problems.
What are things outside of the POTUS’ power, Alex?
Stop focusing on the popular vote and it’s not a problem. There’s 0 reason to vote Trump in California or New York, counting the democrat margin of victory there is disingenuous at best.
There’s a lot riding on this. I’d be anxious too.
I wonder how much support the Dems would get, if they promised to abolish the two-party-system - including some other oddities you have to endure over there. Could they even do that? It seems weird to me that there have been no reforms to fix this obviously broken system.
They couldn’t without a majority in both houses, but I highly doubt they would actually want to.
Ok, then do what you promised to do in 2020.
He’s completed many promises to my knowledge (and a quick Google search). Which one are you referring to?
Some that should have been easy if he cared about them: codify roe vs wade, decriminalize marijuana, forgive student loan debt.
I’ll have to do research on whether the President has the authority to codify anything, mostly to check the rules on that. Can’t speak on marijuana because, honestly, it’s not on my personal care list so I’m a bit more ignorant. Student loan debt though, he tried…right? Got turned down and has been working towards different paths. Seems like that one is in progress. Not sure we can blame him there.
The president can’t make laws but he campaigned that he would work with legislative branch (both sides of the isle) to get it done. However, he hasn’t seemed to prioritize that issue at all. He did have some bipartisan wins with $1T Infrastructure bill, CHIPS, PACT (Jon Stewart should get credit for that one) and some other wins, but the main social issues he campaigned on that touch most people’s lives directly haven’t had much success. Doesn’t help that he’s completely out of touch with economic reality for many and reluctant to take on corporate price gouging.
Not run for a second term?
It’s false. OP is either a liar or are mad because they don’t understand how our system of government works.
