Probably won’t be at the rate we are going from this point on.

wondering when the main bulk of any populace will realize it is always more beneficial to a society to help each other than it is to recreate the jungle of competition and struggles from which we came.

It isn’t necessarily about ideas, but course of development. We live in the era of Imperialism, ie large Monopoly and Financial Capital domination of the Global South from the Global North. The weakest links break, and Imperialism weakens. It’s a matter of time.

It does not imply that at all, that’s a massive assumption on your end that you use as a point to press.

It absolutely does, this is silly.

I agree genocide is bad and this conflict is bad and you’re arguing with me about how I’m not saying it’s bad enough because I used a word you don’t fully understand. What are you even doing?

We were using the term “genocide,” you changed it to “a single conflict in the Middle East.” You swapped the language.

You need to educate yourself on the terms being used and stop making assumptions then using those assumptions to label people. You’re mindset, while focused on something different, is bordering on MAGA.

Scratched liberal starts projecting, who could’ve predicted?

If America isn’t a democracy why would you vote? Please tell me how that’s mental gymnastics. What’s mental gymnastics is declaring democracy doesn’t exist because you don’t like the candidates.

The American Empire is formatted in such a way that candidates are only on the ballot if they serve Empire. It doesn’t matter what I do, there will be no Leftist candidates electorally.

Got it, you think democracy doesn’t exist but every citizen has the same power as the president. Lol, from a guy who uses the term mental gymnastics all the time, now I know how you became so familiar with the term.

How is Trump going to take away the right to vote? He would only be able to do so with a coup. I can’t coup the US Empire.

Because late stage capitalism is strangling the working class. So pro fascist leaders are using that to come into power. Just like every other before then, you blame all the problems on anyone standing in the way of your power and you tell people that you’re the only one who can fix it. Which is exactly, literally, what Trump has done over and over.

Oh, better answer! Not quite accurate, but the right direction! So, tell me this: what is Kamala going to do to stop Late Stage Capitalism? Is she a secret Communist?

Now how about this exercise. Tell me what democracy is, by definition, and how the US does not fit that definition.

The rule of the majority over the minority. The US Empire does not fit this because the parties and candidates derive their power from the Imperialist class, ie the monopoly Capitalists, via controlling the media, lobbying, and fully controlling the parties themselves.

Surely you can see tha difference between “conflict,” which implies roughly equal power and moral responsibility, and “genocide,” which depicts the situation accurately as Israel carries out its extermination campaign, right? Like, you aren’t denying that “conflict” is more passive than genocide, correct? Moreover, you called it “a single conflict,” designed explicitly to downplay it.

Correct your vebage, otherwise it’s clear that you’re acting as a Zionist.

The reality is that it’s genocide, using passive language is a rhetorical strategy to downplay the internationally recognized genocide.

Ok, so no one should vote. Laws don’t matter. Nothing is real.

Again, interesting mental gymnastics.

Wait, so you’re saying he has the same power to effect laws as president as he does as citizen? That’s just very wrong… You know plenty of dictators were voted in at some point right? A history lesson might serve you well.

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. The ability for an American President to permanently or even temporarily take away the right to vote is so immense it would take a full on coup, at which point the original outcome of the election doesn’t matter. Many dictators were not voted in, you need to open a history book and see what causes fascism.

Here’s an exercise: why do you think fascism is rising in America? Is it ideas, or material conditions?

The UI layout and elements of Lemmy.world are pretty close to exactly Reddit, without infringing copyright.

Regardless, I see liberalism for 95% of my waking life, liberal views are supported and leftist views are silenced, it’s nice to see more Leftism.

A bit nasty to describe genocide as “a single conflict in the middle east,” but regardless, the GOP and DNC are aligned on foreign policy.

It seems you are all ready to let the world burn everywhere else as long as we stop sending bombs.

Both Trump and Kamala are aligned on foreign policy, that’s something the DNC and GOP have been aligned on for forever.

But we have to help decide the future of one of the strongest countries in the world, there’s plenty to consider.

The sooner the American Empire loses hegemony the sooner the world can grow.

For example, maintaining your right to even vote to effect issues like this in the future.

If Trump can take away the right to vote by winning, he can do so if he loses. That level of power trancends the Presidency to begin with.

America isn’t a democracy, never was.

Additionally, if Trump has the ability to take away your right to vote if he takes office, he has the ability to take it away even if he doesn’t, you can’t politely vote fascism away.

This is a new level of liberal gymnastics, lmao.

Materially, if Trump and Kamala approve the same genocidal weapon shipments, regardless of their individual feelings, what changes? Do you think Trump has fascist magic that makes the bombs Kamala promised to send anyways more deadly?

Hopefully the quantitative will shift to the qualitative before Gaza is flattened entirely.

100%. They think Trump is a warlock and his fascist magic will imbue the bombs both the DNC and GOP agree to send with extra power. That’s the only way their world view makes any sense at all, rather than looking at the world from a Materialist lense, there’s a grand battle of “Good vs Evil” fought in the ballot box, rather than economic interests and bourgeois infighting.

Exactly, hopefully people realize that genocide is unconditional because its roots are economic, not moral, and states don’t move according to morals.

That would likely provoke a war with Iran, and even then, he wouldn’t be able to do that without bipartisan support. If he can do that, and it can be proven Kamala would not, that is tangible evidence of escalation, something everyone else here failed to provide in any capacity, thanks.

Still, again, I question his ability to actually accomplish that even if he wanted to, and question that under conditions that allow him to be able to that Kamala would not also go through with it, given her record of unconditional support for genocide.

The GOP is aligned with the DNC in this matter, the DNC is not blocking anything nor is the GOP pushing for more. Both are in agreement. If the GOP gets more congress seats, the anti-genocide section of the DNC still can’t change anything.

I admitted a mistake, and offered a suggestion, I didn’t cast fault. Touch grass.

I’m very aware it’s bipartisan, do you think that there are no progressives in congress?

The number of anti-Genocide democrats is low enough that they don’t make a material impact on weapon shipments, the Zionists have enough votes to pass what they want. It’s a zero-sum deal, either the shipments pass or they don’t, and with a super-majority the Zionists are uncontested regardless.

since congress is bipartisan and will continue to vote for more weapons to Israel, Trump will not stop a single shipment

Neither will Kamala.

and will actively lobby congress members to create more bills for more weapons

This is goofy, the US only has so many bombs, and shipments are set by Congress. Is he going to pay out of pocket to increase shipments?

It sucks to see people think government runs on vibes and magic, as though bombs sent through crocodile tears are any less deadly than bombs sent with glee.