If you do, you are wasting your time and the time of anytime else waiting for that charger. I’m currently sitting waiting at a DC Fast charger for 30 minutes because some guy in an ID.4 has decided to charge to 100%.
It is nearly always better to charge to 70% or 80% and stop more often. Stop fucking it up for everyone. If you don’t know, the charge rate slows down dramatically the higher the state of charge. I could have charged from 20-80 in the time this guy went from 80-100
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It’s funny how people want to tell others what to do. I’ve been told to go f@$k myself when in a jam and a leaf wanted to charge to top it off. All’s I needed was 5 minutes. I’ve since paid that same attitude forward. When I mentioned it in a ev forum or sub, I was told that I should plan better. So now I plan to sit at a charger as long as I need or feel. Sorry not sorry
Were they actively charging and not just sitting there occupying a charger with a full battery?
If so, you need to calm down and let people use a charger. Stop being selfish because you sound like a petulant child complaining that someone else didn’t let you play with their toys.
“Edit: Weird, I didn’t think this would get so many negative responses.”, no you’re weird with your toxic take on promoting negative energy on this forum and believing you incapable of being incorrect.
I concur. The charging curve from 80% to 100% is so much slower that it’s rarely worth the wait. Obviously there are times where it’s necessary if the lack of charging infrastructure down the road requires it but, in most cases, charge to 80% and move along.
There are times when it’s necessary and those times are most commonly found right around now with travel, etc
I disagree, in certain situations folks will need every percent. I needed 100% when I was driving from Staunton, VA to Snowshoe, WV for a weekend ski trip. I actually unplugged at 96% because it was so slow, but I wanted as much buffer as possible. I arrived with less than 10%.
Snowshoe, WV is in a National Radio Quite zone, so no cell service and only one spot to charge at Greenbank Observatory which was nearby the resort. The drive was through the mountains in the winter, so while the estimate was correct, I would not blame anyone for wanting to charge to 100% for a drive like that.
You don’t know anyone else’s situation. MYOB.
Yeah this is a stupid take. You can’t assume
Unfortunately, its a common ID.4 thing; many ID.4s have free EA charging and owners often leave their cars charging until they reach 100%. Remember that the time to charge that “last mile” from 90 to 100% is about the same as charging from 20 to 70%. Inconsiderate/uninformed ID.4 drivers are the bane of EA-dependent road trippers — they’re frequently found on the 350 kW chargers pulling 10-20 kWh.
There is a real need for education on public charging etiquette, especially how to optimize your fast charging sessions.
Stop assuming everyone is in the same situation as you!
If the guy needs to go far without good charging stops, and the extra range, let the person charge as needed.
This is the right answer.
While a general “unofficial” rule should be only to charge to 80% in most situations at DCFC chargers, there are times when you just need more.
We had to charge to 95% at a DCFC to make it home from Houston (and this was at a charger along a freeway). We made it back with a range of about 20 miles left. Obviously we didn’t want to risk lower as emergencies happen and we don’t have a home charger. Prime example of why people need to chill at the chargers if someone is going past 80% sometimes it’s absolutely needed. We have a Bolt EUV (2023) for reference. If it had to be 100% we absolutely would’ve done it (but we knew we didn’t).
The real issue should be those that are at a charger and not charging or their vehicle is done but doesn’t show up in a reasonable amount of time to move it away.
This is not the right answer. The guy could finish with AC and allow others to get going. Narcissistic bullshit will just get a fight going.
AC Where? Do you expect there to be AC charging on site?
It’s completely non-sensical to think that someone is going to leave a charging station to drive somewhere else to finish charging.
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How do you know he could do that??
By narcissistic bullshit… I hope you mean OP?
You just need to come the fuck down, if your first thought is this ending in a fight, you need to go talk about your feelings with a professional.
I posted this in another thread with a similar topic:
I just did a 3000 mile cross country trip in my ID4 and there was one scenario where I had to charge to ~95% while another person was waiting. Was it a dick move? Maybe, but I know I needed those extra miles because that’s what my ABRP (subscription plus obd) was telling me I needed.
I won’t risk my family getting stranded and wasting hours waiting for a tow just to come off as more polite. Unfortunately the ID4 was my only option for this trip as it is our only car. And we were moving.
Everyone’s situation is different. I was initially annoyed with people using the dc fast chargers in the same state as their license plate. I thought “don’t you people have chargers at home?!”, but that’s a toxic mindset to have and quickly readjusted my thoughts because they could be in an apartment that doesn’t allow installation for example.
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Most BEV owners understand the “80% rule” and the associated implications.
If someone does the 100%, give them the benefit of the doubt and move on. It’s not worth getting upset over dumb shit like that.
Sometimes it’s worth having an adult conversation.
Knock on the window and politely say -
“not sure if you knew this, but it takes almost twice as long to go from 80-100% than from 15-80%. What many people do is charge to 80 or 90% and then make room for the next person waiting because of how long it takes.
Then you can say - of course if you are traveling far and there are no other chargers on your way, do what you have to do.
Just wanted to let you know it’s considered a courtesy around chargers when there is a wait.”
We all know the charge rate slows down especially after 80%.
But I always charge to 100% when I am going on a bit of a road trip. I like to start out at maximum charge. Get as far as I can on my first charge.
We don’t know this persons deal. Sometimes you really do need that extra 10-20%.
Maybe you shouldn’t go online and rant at the world for somebody else using a service they pay for.
It’s free charging!