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Know what doesn’t refuse to pick you up if you’re pished? The Night Bus.
PUBLIC TRANSPORT WINS AGAIN! INVEST IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION!
Public transit stops at midnight where I live. Won’t work for someone out at 2am.
Last time we did the smart thing and we stayed till first train in the morning. Was also cheaper to drink till dawn and eat shit in McDonald’s than take taxi home 🤣
In the U.S. there are only two places that serve alcohol 24/7 (New York and Las Vegas). Pretty much everywhere else stops serving at 2am
New Orleans is all night as far as I am aware
I forgot about New Orleans!
Truly a fascist country
Big difference between serving alcohol and selling alcohol. When I was doing 3rd shift, we’d get out at 5AM, head straight for the gas station, and pour tallboys into paper cups and drink in front of the store.
First bus home came by at 6:30. I was usually pretty buzzed by then.
Meanwhile in my country you can serve alcohol all night, but you can only sell it (to go) between 10 AM and 10 PM
Better start early then 🤷♂️
What if I told you lots of places don’t follow the rules
Well, sure, but how is that relavent?
Sounds like a you problem. I dont live in a place where they run 24/7 but they run long enough at night on holidays. Also, if you are partying until 2am don’t be a weak sauce, party until 6 and then next day transit starts.
assuming you have a public transit system that operates at night, and is worth a damn.
I know there are places where buses stop running long before the bars close.
Okay, maybe you should lobby your local government for better public transport? Because let’s be honest with you, you can’t have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night.
If the patrons of bars and clubs only have the option to drive to your location and drive back, they’re either not going to drink as much as they would, not going to visit as often because they’re going to have to drop stacks on a cab, or they’re going to drink and drive.
You can’t have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. The only places that I can think of if I can get away with having no public transport and having some form of nightlife are wee villages, because you can walk home.
If you want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport. If you don’t want to invest in public transport, prepare to spend your nights drinking alone in your house.
Thats on the base assumption that your local municipality wants a healthy nightlife.
Which is a brave assumption to make.
A city not wanting to have a healthy nightlife, to me, is a bit like a city not wanting to have shops: it’s a royally stupid position to make.
The nighttime economy is hella important to any city because it’s a big money spinner. Here you have a load of people who either have finished work or have the weekend off and they’re looking for shit to do that isn’t staring at the TV drinking tinnies they bought on the way home from work and they wanna go out to bars with their friends, or to a restaurant, or a show. Those bars, clubs, restaurants, theaters and take outs make money and pay tax which the city can use for shit they need. Oh, and those Pubs? They can act as community nexuses, so there’s a fucking social benefit too. The idea of a city having no nightlife is genuinely a dumber idea than when they turned cities into car centric hellholes, and that was a very dumb idea that most cities are struggling to deal with even now.
Want to know how universal nightlife is? Cultures that don’t drink have nightlife. Muslim countries have night markets and cafes because it’s almost a universal thing that after work, at night, people wanna hang out and do things. Even before civilization we used to gather round fires to listen to stories and shit, that’s how universal it is.
I have been to villages with nightlife, several pubs where locals and visitors alike go to have a drink or maybe see live music. I have been to hamlets with a pub open until 11 where people go to vibe with a pint. Hell, even dormtowns I have been to have at least one watering hole. If your authorities are fighting against nightlife, then they are ultra-authoritarian asshats who hate money and human joy.
I’m sorry that you are only now just learning that government can be stupid and myopic
BE PUNK IN DRUBLIC
and cop cars
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I’m getting used to the smell of peed pants on the bus.
It’s just ammonia.
This is something I’m to European to understand.
Not my fault your country disinvested in public transport to force your to drive, killing off third spaces for the enrichment of car companies.
I just said I’m riding the bus, where did this come from?
I’m not going back to shitting my pants in a common taxi cab.
Yeah. It’s much classier to shit one’s pants in the backseat of a total stranger’s car. 💩👖
That’s private transportation to you good sir/ma’am!
But it isn’t private though?
Lol. People say take the bus, but who the hell wants to be on a bus with drunk people?
Public transport is the worst environment ever already, even before the drunks. It’s a choice only when we can’t drive for some reason.
I took the bus yesterday and I felt extreamly depressed to see all the weird, broken people around me, acting like morons. It may be elitist, sure, that’s fair. But people are actually very unpleasant on public transport, and specially at night.
This is the most American takeaway I have heard. It’s not my fault your country doesn’t invest in public transport, resulting in dead cities with no third places, endless traffic, no walkability and it seems, from you, rampant snobbish classism.
Also you going home from a bar, a place that is famously full of drunk people, complaining about drunk people on the bus while you’re coming home from the place where all those drunk people are coming from is a bit like complaining about fursuiters on the bus while you’re coming home from a fursuit convention.
Also drunk people on the bus is 100% better than the alternatives, that is drunk people driving or zero bars in your city because their customers can’t come home after drinking without dropping a stack just to get home.
Where I come from we invested in public transport, and when I say we invest in public transport, I mean we invest in public transport. Everyone takes the bus here, regardless of who they are, because It’s the easiest way to get into town and back because the alternative is unviable and inconvenient, especially if you are going out on the pish. We have rich office workers on the bus alongside poor gig workers. And the nightbuses are used by both pishheads and night workers to get home or to work or wherever, and it’s not too bad, not anymore annoying than pishheads at the bars at least.
America doesn’t invest in public transport because they want to force you to drive, they don’t want to give you the choice, they keep public transport either non-existent or useless, so you don’t have a choice but to drop thousands of dollars every year just to leave your house. This has resulted in a situation where most American cities look like Glorified motorway junctions dotted with unwalkable housing estates and strip malls. No, that is not because the city was founded in 1950 when people started buying cars, most American cities were founded much older than that and had public transport systems, but got rid of them to force people to drive, literally demolishing the entire city to turn it into a collection of strip malls and steroids.
You want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport and nightbuses. Don’t want to invest in that, have fun with drunk drivers, expensive taxis, no nightlife, and drinking alone in your house because you can’t fucking leave your house without a car.
It’s a good comment, even though I’m not American and I wasn’t returning home from the pub. :) . But sure, if public transport was actually good, it would be nice to use it. Currently it sucks extreamly much and is pretty much like transporting cattle from A to B to as low cost as possible.
If it was high quality, nice chairs, low noise… Modern buses… Then it would be amazing. But it’s not like that in most cities. It’s usually loud, packed, full of people who don’t care about being quiet or how they smell like.
The idea is good, the execution is definently “low cost transport” in an even worse way then budget airlines.
I felt extreamly depressed to see all the weird, broken people around me, acting like morons.
I was going to give you shit, but then I realized this is exactly how I feel whenever I drive anywhere…
I dont see people when I drive really… That’s what I like about it. Just me, the car and some nice music.
I take the bus regularly, it’s fine. Heard this shit all my life, then lost my license due to epilepsy and thought “oh crap.” Turns out it’s fine and actually a great way to dodge giving a shit about where I park.
I get the bus and it’s fine but maybe I’m one of those “broken morons”
Depends how you act. Are you screaming in the bus, talking on the phone, taking selfies, playing music?
why tf is the word drunk censored.
Engagement bait. Just downvote and move on next time.
Pretty sure lemmy doesnt track any engagement except votes.
Pretty sure you can sort by activity. Also, most stuff on here was on a different platform first.
Sort by active is calculated from votes and age of last reply, but the number of comments itself is pretty useless.
That’s assuming this image was originally made to be shared on Lemmy. But most content in this community almost certainly comes from somewhere else first.
We inherit secondhand social media engagement metrics.
People copy stuff from elsewhere. This is the internet. Blaming OP is just st*pid
Nah, fuck anyone normalising this shit.
that’s it now they know you are dr*nk
OP can edit and claim this as their own work:
EXCUSE ME??? CHILDREN MIGHT SEE THIS???
Better pour em a shot first.
Useless censorship has become a shibboleth for social media brain rot. People do it to mark themselves as current on social media trends. That’s all it is. There’s no evidence that it has anything to do with content strikes.
Your use of the word shibboleth is a shibboleth
Mind your fucking language! /j
Thanks you 🙏, I had no idea what that word was
They didn’t even cover the entire letter. It just looks like there’s stuff stuck to the fourth wall.
Information is monetized by censorship.
on lemmy?
No, in general. I just think it’s funny that the internet was invented to transfer information and the first thing we did with it was figure out how to censor it - copyrighted media, news, p*rnography, the word pornography, etc.
C*nsorshp really has gotten outta hand.
It’s not to censor the idea. It’s that dupe detection bots use ocr text detection and fucking with letters can defeat it
And the bots would then take down the image with the offending text?
yeah. thats not lemmy though right?
Well, I mean it’s right there in the image. Although, I guess Lemmy doesn’t have anything directly to do with censoring it.
I asked why OP censored the image.
Is it to fool censorship bots that use OCR to recognize banned words?
Engagement bait
Dude I am so sick of all these weird half assed randomly censored posts. You can say drunk on the internet. You can say onlyfans on the internet. You can say fuck these goddamn piece of shit cuntsicles on the internet. Jesus fucking christ.
I think when they do it with words like this is for engagement.
Free comments.
Damn it I walked right in to it
they got you, mission accomplished
Oh shut the fuck up, Lemmy doesn’t have algorithms that deal with content bait bullshit like this. Take your karma farming comments to reddit.
I mean, I did find this post because it got pushed to the top of my Active feed…
Lemmy does in fact have algorithms. Just transparent ones
Exactly. I don’t come to the fediverse for this weirdly censored, unsubstantiated bullshit. I’m downvoting and moving on, but I’m also as disappointed as the cricket guy meme.
Seek repentance, now!
Far more likely scenario
Uber can now tell when you’re drunk, and don’t have a car and will charge you more because you’re desperate.
And not pay the driver any extra
like going to a strip club
At least you get free breakfast buffet at strip clubs. (Or you did the last time I went to one more than 20 years ago.)
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say this comes from Uber drivers getting tired of being assaulted and having their vehicles trashed by drunk people.
It’s not all of them, but it’s likely enough of them to ruin it for everyone.
Once had some drunk guys shove a girl in my cab and give me enough cash to get her home. She puked in the back seat. And I had to get her dad to get her out of the cab and her tiny little brother was upset. You get this kinda service from an uber?
Cab drivers get a bad rap, but y’all gotta deal with all kinds of shit. Respect for y’all.
I wish the industry coped better with Uber and lyfts when they were first growing.
Long time since I drove a cab, but I do sense a work ethic to the profession not there with uber drivers OR cabbies are corrupt, please be careful
Since when does corporate give one fuck about what their wage slaves want?
Probably lawsuits, or the growing threat of lawsuits.
Isn’t that the point of the rating system? Drivers can give you a low rating and you can essentially be black listed if it’s low enough.
What? Uber had algorithms to determine whether the person is drunk or not and surge the price for them back when I was working for them in 2019
TBF the OP is not dated. Nevertheless, how does it work? Once they surge the price, one drunk guy will probably just accept it, mindlessly, while a more sober foe will probably tap FUCK NO, and try again. Maybe that’s the algorithm, the good old capitalist pig algorithm.
In the region I am talking about all major taxi apps are doing this. Except one but it has a basically nonexistent reputation.
My husband and I used Uber for one of the first times to get back home after a long walk, where we were both inebriated. It was pretty clear and we weren’t trying to hide it, but we weren’t rude, and I was careful not to slam the door or anything. The driver gave us a 1-star rating and it took a long time before I found a few drivers willing to chance it on me in the meantime. I don’t remember that driver but I hope I’ve cut them off in traffic since. You know what, I probably have.
Recovering Uber driver here.
I drove back in 2017-2018, and at that time Uber was starting to get difficult about reimbursing cleaning fees when some drunk puked in the car, which made fewer drivers want to pick up drunks. I can’t imagine the situation has improved since then.
So wait.
You get charged a cleaning fee if you puke in someones car… but uber wont give the cleaning fee to the driver, you know…the person who has to have their car cleaned?
I unfortunately drove Uber for a bit back in the late 2010s until I got tired of being sexually harassed. Drivers do get paid the cleaning fee, but the rideshare services were becoming increasingly stringent about their requirements for paying it. The issue was threefold.
People would soil vehicles then dispute the cleaning charges with their credit card, so Uber would be out whatever was paid to the driver. Last I knew, this was a maximum of $225, but capped at $80 if the driver did the cleaning. Good luck finding a professional cleaner that charges less than $225 for cleaning seats smeared with vomit or feces.
Next, drivers would fake vomit or feces and file a report, causing their prior passengers to be charged a cleaning fee.
Ultimately, the ride share services tightened up their methods for both charging and refunding these fees to the detriment of both drivers and riders because they’re soulless, capitalist pig fuckers that only care about profit.
That’s right! Isn’t that fun?
This and the fact that I started to make almost no money is why I don’t drive for Uber anymore.
downvoted for using shitty censorship to fuel engagement
Fueling engagement seemed to have worked on you
This is Fediverse, dipshit, not tik tok.
Why do you call strangers dipshit over nothing? That’s really rude.
My comment has nothing to do with the platform we’re on. Every comment section everywhere is full of the same comments whenever a word is not fully visible.
Why were you makeing such a snarky comment to someone on how “somehow engagement must have worked on you”?
Not everything is about engagement and algorithms. We’re on a message board. We leave messages. It’s not about bait or lawl you fell for the algorithm. It’s a message board where people comment their thoughts and opinions on things.
Is there an actual source for this? I tried searching news for “Uber will know you’re drunk” and found nothing, I reverse look-upped the meme and saw it nowhere, there is no indication of a source in the meme.
I want to know how they will know that you’re drunk, and I want to know why they want to cut off what I assume is a decent chunk of their clientele, but I’m not seeing anything.
I found articles from 6 years ago that says that uber drives have the choice to turn you down if they think you’re too drunk or obnoxious
I would have thought that was always the case, but maybe not.
So it reads to me that it’s not that Uber will be like, “he’s legally drunk, he can’t use our service”, it’s, “I went to pick this guy up and he was vomiting and his pants were falling down so I decided to turn him down”
It should be noted I did not actually click these links and read the articles or anything, that’s just how it appeared. So, take it with a grain of salt. I might have read the articles except I don’t drink so I don’t really care
They will just charge drunk fee. Uber not the driver.
Drivers are currently making like $12-$14/hr, so…yup. Delivery drivers are the number one recipients of government food benefits in the U.S. right now. And Uber will just deny my cleaning fee when someone vomits, soooo…yup. Not accepting that shit in my car and paying out of pocket to clean it after midnight (tons of detailing options open then), having to drag an unconscious stranger out of my car, etc.
Best case scenario : uber loses so much businesses that the taxi companies can roll out a unified ride hailing app and pay drivers decently.
There are plenty of Uber drivers in SF getting fucked and the CEO’s address is public record. 🤞
All they need is a decent app and I’m back to cabs.
Taxis feel so much more expensive, but it’s cause theyre licenced, regulated, and better paid
I walk everywhere, and take public transport as a treat when it rains
I really think this is it. Calling for a cab was an effort. pushing a button in an app that says, “I need a cab here” was the secret sauce Uber provided. That’s old news now. They also had a benefit of pricing while they had VC, but that’s evaporating.
For the record, I don’t uber or equivalent. I either am or find a DD or “rideshare” with friends and family.
I haven’t used them, but there are taxi apps that seem to hook into the less-predatory transport businesses. Pricing may not be as competitive, but that comes with the drivers earning a stable wage.
Facebook algorithm pretending that it’s not able to read drunk from this “censorship” ╮(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)╭
The point of Uber is to make money. As long as businesses can make money by kicking you in the face, they will do it.
by this point most people in america probably don’t remember taxi cabs. they would often be dirty and driven by a disheveled wildman. these drivers answered to no one other than their dispatcher who gave just as little of a fuck.
do you have a problem with the driver? did he smell bad, did he talk too much, did he blast a master P song at full volume for the entire ride despite your objections?
tough shit.
uber was built in response to this. it was not only based on these occasional bad experiences, but to ensure that every working class person was on their best behavior when in the presence of their betters. it was never about a service or bettering anything, other than sparing the better-off from mild inconvenience.
Hell I remember trying to get a cab home from a bar pre-ride share and them telling me itd be two hours. I slept in my car in the parking lot instead.
