Crew members were still wearing their Disney uniforms when they were escorted away from the boat with their hands zip-tied behind their backs, reports say
Some travelers on Disney’s Magic cruise ship were left disturbed earlier this month after ICE agents stormed onto the vessel and detained several crew members.
Immigrant rights groups said at least 10 crew members were detained at the Port of San Diego on April 23 after the Disney-run cruise ship returned following a five-day trip.
Dharmi Mehta and her family had enjoyed their trip, but were upset when they saw the head waiter, whom they had become close with, being led away from the docked boat with his hands zip-tied behind his back.
The Disney Magic is Bahama flagged. This is not US territory and ICE has no right to be on it what sort ever.
When a ship docks in a foreign country, the vessel and everyone on it enter that nation’s “internal waters”. Because of this, the crew is physically located on that country’s soil (or, more accurately, its territorial jurisdiction), meaning local laws apply to them.
Hahaha, look at that guy thinking the law has any meaning in the US of A.
So your telling me I can wave a flag and laws don’t matter in port?
Not how it works. It was stopped in US waters and so was subject to local jurisdiction.
Not how it works. By your logic, ice can detain all personell on every vessel that docks in us? Bulk carriers, tankers, sea container? People who won’t set foot on us soil. send a boat, get your crew kidnapped. That’s going to go over well.
Well, yes. That is how international law stands.
Well, in this case it is how local law works.
LMAO, I love it when conservatives pretend to care about “the law” when they support politicians who use it as toilet paper.
By “conservative” I assume you mean “someone who checked the laws” rather than referring to economic or social taste.
I wonder how the Mickey takes his whiskey? Neat?
When corporations start bleeding profits bc of the terrible tangerine pedo, maybe they’ll start caring
“Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. They’re allowed to take only a knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then, they’re robbed of these possessions on the way. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone.” — Anne Frank
Yeeeeaaaaahhhhh…I have bad news for future Anne Frank. Also bad news for present day America.
It’s the same news.
Brown people? Not on my watch -ICE
as they employ BROWN people to attack other brown people.
They actually love brown people. They want their cheap labor and this stuff keeps people afraid and makes them keep their head down. It has the added benefit that they get to parade it around to their electorate like ‘something is being done’
It’s theater to keep poor white people in fly over states from realizing that the people in power are the ones selling them out and have been the entire time.
“Just” theater.
Such privileged hot takes.
For a ton of people it is theater.
ICE isn’t showing up in their neighborhood or at their work place. Their only experience with that shit is on the news or tiktok and it’s in a state they don’t live in and have never been to.
They didn’t say it was just theater. Interpreting it as theater is a privileged take, but I think it’s also true that one of the motivations of this horror show is to indulge the racism of the MAGA base to distract them from how they’re getting fucked over by this administration too.
Multiple things can be true at once.
Wait, these crew members were on a ship, not on US soil. US Customs and Immigration is on land which you have to pass through to get to the USA. ICE actually dragged them onto US soil just so they could say they were there illegally? WTF?!
Technically you need permission to dock. It means that the entire crew manifest was known to the government prior to arrival and they were given permission to dock. Then they were arrested. If there was a problem with them being in the US they should never have been given permission.
Applying logic here won’t work.
Apparently DCL registers its ships in the Bahamas. I don’t know if ICE/CBP have jurisdiction on foreign ships without a bunch of warrants.
Even if the workers aren’t eligible to enter the US, it should only be an issue if they disembark
They seem to think they have jurisdiction in AMERICAN CITIZENS’ HOUSES without a judicial warrant; surely foreign ships are considered gimmes.
CBP comes onboard to process all the guests and crew before a ship gets to the US. I’m thinking these crew members couldn’t get their I-95’s and got deported (instead of not getting shore leave in the US) so that Trump can flood the zone with more “winning”.
The handful of cruises I’ve been on you pass through CBP immediately after getting off the ship.
I’m confused, cruise ships usually have all their work permits and stuff handled ahead of time for the crew. How can you be an illegal immigrant if you’re just working on a boat for a day and not staying here?
Legality has nothing to do with it. It is super simple.
ABC didn’t fire Jimmy Kimmel.The people on that ship are paying a high cost for that defiance. They are merely externalities for Disney’s punishment. I suppose terrifying people is a nice side effect for those in charge. But retribution is the motivation.
Simple as that.
Because ICE don’t give a fuck about facts. They have been arresting, incarcerating and murdering legal American citizens too. They have Trump and Vance’s backing.
and MSM have basically stopped reporting it, likely to change the narrative when fox and grifter news decide to report on it, its just sound bytes for fox for years. “california,NYC is a hellhole, allowing illegal immigrants”-right wing news, and right wing youtubers.
Like Wilson Fisk and the police except way more Beavis and Butthead without the good parts.
Must be a trip working for that show, writing this comic-book level evil bad guy…then by the time it gets released, reality is just as bad, only less competent.
I don’t think I have heard or read a more accurate analogy.
ABC is owned by Disney. Jimmy Kimmel works for ABC. Trump is getting revenge
Disney donates heavily to the gop to give them favors.
Yes revenge and maybe also mob tactics to strong arm compliance to fire Kimmel.
As far as I know almost no cruise ships are actually American flagged vessels and therefore are perfectly able to directly employ foreign nationals without citizenship or US work authorization. They aren’t even under the jurisdiction of ICE.
Disney ships are all Bahamanian flagged ships and have absolutely no obligation to employ American citizens.
ICE had been abducting legal residents from the beginning. They camp out in front of immigration court houses… The last place you’d find an undocumented person.
I used to work on cruise ships and all non-US crew are given an I-95 permit to go ashore in the US by CBP when they go through immigration before the 1st US port (officials usually come onboard before the ship gets to the US). I wonder if these crew members couldn’t get one (for whatever reason)? Usually, if that happens, CBP just make them stay onboard in US ports, but the US is doing things a bit differently these days.
Your mistake here was thinking they give a fuck about the law or proper procedure at all
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Because they want numbers not rights. The new leader of the agency said they would deport more people than any other period. (Trump hasn’t even reached half of Obama peak deportation numbers.) when you try to deport every immigrant it slows the deportation of the violent ones.
The only thing that would make that movie better is if Paul Dano was in it
So if Disney was breaking the law, which Disney officials are going to jail?
ICE boarded a vessel that’s only purpose is to jump between international tourist ports, and abducted people who aren’t American.
Who hadn’t even left the boat.
What law was broken by anyone but ICE?
You think these people were actually illegal immigrants? Ice doesn’t care as long as they are brown
They aren’t immigrants at all if they are the crew of a Bahamanian flagged vessel, as all Disney cruise ships are. They aren’t under the jurisdiction of ICE at all for the simple fact that they aren’t employed in America in the first place.
Or in the cases of Renee Goode and Alex Pretti, they’ll kill white people too. It’s all about who they consider opposition.
Yea- fuck this timeline
You know some asshole in a meeting was like you know let’s go raid a cruise ship
Cruise ships attract old white people - one of them must have called ICE to complain.
How does one call ICE?
I am not American.
…and the World Cup is around the corner. Stay home and watch it on TV or in your local pub, unless you have tickets for the matches in Mexico and Canada.
G’hyuck! You’re getting deported!
The mouse Sieg Heil’s. Won’t you?
The mouse won’t be happy about this…
Walt Disney was a filthy fascist.
I’m willing to bet the Mouse barely gives a shit about a bunch of cruise ship employees.
They don’t, but they give a shit about their image that is being tarnished.
They do care about that so they’ll probably just let this slip off the news cycle (these are gone from mainstream media in less than a day) and do more backdoor tributes.
And why would you assume they’d stop with the crew members?
You’re not going to sell tickets to your cruise if your passengers think they might get kidnapped if they go on it…
