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  • Jury nullification isn’t a real thing. It’s not a law in any country, it’s a “loophole” that springs out from some simple concepts.

    1. You have a right to a trial by a jury of your peers, jurors are protected from consequences related to their deliberation and decisions.
    2. If found “not guilty” the state cannot retry you for the same crime.

    Both of those things are important to avoid tyranny in the judicial system.

    What that means is that if, for any reason, the jury decides to find you “not guilty” even against their “jury instructions” or the law itself, you’re off the hook forever. This concept is called “jury nullification” but it’s not a law or “feature” of the justice system. In fact most of the time it’s been used for very unjust outcomes, for example juries often refused to find people who perpetrated lynchings guilty because a “jury of your peers” in many states was racist AF!

    That being said I LOVE to see it used to refuse unjust laws!





  • It’s not about the undecided. You’d have to have brain worms to be undecided when Trump is an option. Undecided right now is like choosing between a stale pile of dog shit and fast food and justifying it by saying “well fast food is pretty shitty”.

    It’s about getting people to VOTE. People who don’t usually vote need to get out and vote. That’s it. That’s what’s going to make the difference. Kamala has to mobilise reluctant voters.












  • Dude I didn’t prove shit. I don’t understand how saying “men and boys need help” is a critique of feminism.

    I know a lot of people are suggesting to address these things through “feminism” and that these problems belong to the “patriarchy”. But fundamentally what they mean is use a leftist approach to deal with obstacles affecting you caused by the existing hierarchy.

    They’re saying that because what no one wants is another alpha male Jordan Peterson/Enon Musk style bullshit peddler claiming that men have been harmed by feminism and will be better off if we just restore the patriarchy and become “alpha” or whatever lingo they’re using these days. That might be superficially true, but oppressing others isn’t the way to get ahead.

    It’s starting to become obvious which side you’re learning on, but hopefully you’ll come over and help fight for men and boys issues in a way that improves society instead of harming it.


  • … I’m not feminism man so I’m not sure what your trying to say.

    Anyways “Welcome to the left” i guess, everyone has to identify the systemic barriers holding them back and fight to have them removed. You don’t fight alone, we all help and support eachother. But no one can identify your barriers for you, they don’t live your life.

    You’re coming in here saying “a side effect of the fighting done by feminism is reveal the obstacles holding boys back” then thank feminism I guess and join the fight for boys and men against the patriarchy/hierarchy.

    If you’re going to sit here pretending that these problems were CREATED by feminism and you want to attack the idea of “women fighting to remove their obstacles”, well I don’t know what to tell you, but you’re going to be alone and you’re not going to get far. We don’t win by diminishing eachother.

    For example, you talk about how feminists fought hard to get women into schools and make the education fair for women. Now that women outnumber men in higher learning you’re saying feminists stopped, but then you’re complaining that feminists aren’t fighting for men? Why would they? And even if they wanted to, how can WOMEN understand the obstacles holding back MEN? Feminism isn’t well suited for these challenges, but feminism certainly didn’t set out to hold men and boys back in education. The fact that the education system doesn’t meet the needs of young boys has nothing to do with feminism.

    Now you want to fight for more physical activity, more hands on learning in schools because that’s what boys NEED? All the power to you. There are a lot of people fighting for that and you should join. Left wing activists of all stripes support this because we all support eachother and better, more equitable education helps us all. Demand higher school budgets and get physical and hands on learning back in schools.

    You wanna sit here and whine like a baby blaming feminists for cutting school budgets and removing PE, science labs shop classes and hands on tech courses based on no facts at all? Enjoy the downvotes and loneliness I guess!


  • You’re close to getting it but you’re not quite there. The patriarchy oppressed men AND women. It oppressed white people AND minorities.

    Feminists, LGBTQ+, and black rights activists have each fought against the hierarchal structure for an end to their oppression and to enshrine their own rights. These people fight for equality, but they obviously do it when they’re the ones harmed by inequality. They also support eachother in their respective fights as allies.

    None of these groups will fight on behalf of other groups for many reasons, not the least of which is that they DON’T KNOW what it’s like to be in a group they don’t belong to. The most they can do is support eachother’s fights.

    Unfortunately many of the advantages that the patriarchy offered men was through oppressing others. For example if you were a “manly” man you could attract a “feminine” woman to do chores and raise kids for you. Nowadays women have better deals available. So men are at a unique crossroads, they can work on their own fights: the freedom to express human emotions, the freedom to participate in “feminine” pursuits like being in the lives of your kids, taking paternity leave, fighting for an education system that doesn’t leave boys in the dust, among other things. OR they can try to go back to the hierarchal ways of life, adopting the “manly alpha” persona and hoping to find a “feminine” wife to take care of the house and kids. The latter FEELS easier, but success is difficult.

    Nobody else got that choice because no one else thought that taking apart the hierarchy was as painful for them as much as it is to men. It lays bare all of our limitations and removes all the privileges. But if we understand that the hierarchy is what CREATED those limitations and gave the privileges at the cost of operating others, then we know the right thing is to start fighting our fights and stop being left behind.

    It’s not feminism’s fault we’re left behind. Why would women fight men’s fights against the hierarchy/patriarchy FOR us, when women don’t even live the problems we live. We’re left behind because we stayed behind. Because it felt good. Now it doesn’t. Now we fight for our freedom from the hierarchy.



  • Holy fuck. I didn’t say criticism of the democratic party is automatically a right wing tactic. Get some goddamned reading comprehension. I swear you’re just trolling me at this point.

    In case you’re not, I’ll give it one more shot. I said there is a specific right wing effort to get left wing people to not vote by calling out issues where the Democrats aren’t left enough (but where the Republicans are much worse) in order to convince people not to vote. If your posts look like that, for example if you post a typical “genocide Joe” post, you need to be downvoted, because there is no way allowing another Trump victory is the right answer to “the Democrats aren’t left enough”. This in no way stops anyone from posting nuanced criticism or even just “I wish the Democratic leadership had more courage to fight Israel we should support Bernie Sanders’ campaign to withhold funding and petition our representatives to support the motion”. Anything with ANY nuance, or genuine desire for improvement of the democratic party will be VERY different from this tactic. If you don’t want to be downvoted all you have to do is include the slightest bit of additional thought, information, input, nuance or advice. If you don’t, not only does your post look exactly like a right wing voter suppression post, and should be downvoted on that basis alone, but also clearly has no real new thoughts to offer and would be downvoted on that basis anyways.