Megan Kelly follows the “if you’re old enough to bleed, you’re old enough to breed” playbook.
Her child should be removed from her custody.
It’s only paedophilia if it comes from the pedophile region of Alabama. Otherwise it’s just sparkling ephebophilia.
He’s not a Pedophile unless he comes from the Pedo region of Epstein Island, otherwise he’s just sparkling child molester.
He’s quite the vintage. I hear 79 cock is magical. It dissapears!
Holy shit this is an underrated comment .
Bravo sir.
*rapist
I’m pretty sure they named the pedo region of Epstein island after him
Lookit that, ephebophile strat went mainstream.
There’s a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?
She should not be able to walk down the street without constant reminder of making this statement about victims of sex trafficking. Absolute monster of a person.
There’s a difference between a 15-year-old and a 5-year-old, you know?
“There really is, one is annoying and one is hot”. -Trump, probably
More like “I’ll be dating her in 5 years, and her in 15.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/12/13265670/trump-10-year-old-girl
More like “I’ve been dating her for 2 years, and her in another 8.”
In his defense, teenagers are annoying as fuck.
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I’m so sorry
Relevant username?
I really only want to talk to people between the ages of 30 and 60.
Nah, that was funny.
respectively?
Megan Kelly has a 15 year old daughter, someone should call CPS and look into this poor kid if her mom thinks a grown man grooming her isnt a bad thing
I want every single, sheltered Lemmy progressive to use this opportunity to SPAM every message board, every subreddit, every facebook group, with this clip, this story, Megan Kelly’s warp-distorted face rationalizing the abuse of children.
THIS is the shit we need to be doing and putting all our energy into instead of infighting about what words are problematic.
I mean, you will succeed in turning some people away from Megan Kelly but mostly only dying boomers are watching her anyway.
you will succeed in turning some people away from Megan Kelly
I’ll take it.
I agree with the sentiment, but you lost me at using corporate social media. Eww.
Can we shove these clips in MAGA CHUDs’ faces IRL instead, please?
using corporate social media
If you can reach enough people, do what you will, but it’s ridiculous to be performative about it, millions of conservatives use social media, they trust social media, social media is what got trump fucking elected to begin with.
Why? It’s different both legally and clinically. Almost all states increase the severity of the crime for younger victims, usually choosing the delineating age around 12 or 13.
Thank God the Right is out here protecting our kids from transpeople. /sarcasm
Let’s be real. The right is “protecting kids from trans people” because they think transexuality is socially contagious and they don’t want to fuck trans kids.
The rates of rape experienced by trans people suggest you’re entirely wrong about that last part.
Sigh. Fair.
Or worse, the trans kids refusing to fuck conservatives. Far as a turdpublican goes, other people exist to be exploited, and a willfully chosen sexual identity can be a roadblock. People developing a personality inherently means having the willpower to say “NO!”.
Ah yes, the “social contagion” theory, out here acting like Dawkins wasn’t full of shit when he came up with memetics
She has a 14 year old daughter
If you tell someone not to fuck kids and their response is “actually 15 year olds aren’t kids” then that person is a pedo.
Yeah, that seems on brand
Yes, it’s technically Hebephilia or Ephebophilia. That doesn’t change the level of disdain.
Yes, it’s technically
Exactly the same if I started to call driving with a blood alcohol level between 0.8% and 25% “happy fun time driving” and pretended that means it’s no longer the same as DUI…
People can make up all the terms they want, don’t change the law tho.
You’re off by an order of magnitude in these percentages.
In most places, it is legal to drive with a blood alcohol content between 0.025% and 0.08%.
Over 0.08% is a DUI.
Over 0.8% is death.
25%… you’d indeed need a thanatologist to get there.At .4% I call it Death. By 25% I think that’s just a type of embalming procedure.
I like to think of laws as flibberlintons because who the hell cares if you break a flibberlinton?
technically Hebephilia or Ephebophilia
You’ve been made mod of r/Libertarian
That doesn’t change the level of disdain.
You’ve been removed as mod for r/Libertarian
Relevant stand up https://youtu.be/nu6C2KL_S9o
Open comments just to check of somebody post this!
“You’ve heard the news?” 😂
Still a kid fucker.
Holy shit they’re actually doing the hebophile bit
Yeah, but it’s impossible to explain without sounding like a pedophile…
Life imitates art as one of our favorite Gianmarco shorts comes to life
TIL hebophile and ephebophile, two words I didn’t want to know existed.
It is a useful distinction when considering possible rehabilitation. In general conversation it’s just weird.
The best explanation I have seen was that it’s like death metal sure there’s varying types and styles within death metal but at the end of the day the only ones who really care about those distinctions are death metal fans.
(My apology to any death metal fan offended by the comparison)
All sub categories of reprehensible creep
I don’t think a 20 year old dating a 17 year old falls into that category but it would fall under the legal definition you’re referring to in many states. That’s the problem with drawing arbitrary lines, you usually end up labeling some things incorrectly. That doesn’t mean you get rid of the line but understanding the context is still important.
That being said, there is no amount of context that will lessen the creepiness of a 50+ year old man serially preying upon 15 year old girls. That’s disgusting and I find Megyn Kelly’s invocation of this defense to be indefensible. She should be ashamed of herself if she were capable of feeling shame.
Yeah of course a 20 year old dating a 17 year old is fine…we all know this isn’t what they are talking about…it’s disgusting people trying to justify someone old enough to be their parent or grandparent…
Maryland has a system in place to protect teenagers…the age of consent is 16 (which if you’re over 21, shame on you) but there’s a 4 year sliding clause, so for example if your 17, a pissed parent cannot charge you for having relations with their 14 year old, if all was on the up and up.
I’m in my 40s and anyone under 30 is too young.
Being sexually attracted to 17 year old females makes someone a reprehensible creep?
Most straight men probably fit into that.
17 year olds still tend to be physically less developed… But even if they’re not, if you’re more than a handful of years older than the 17 year old, having a sexual relationship with them is still exploitative since they’re still mentally (both emotionally and reasoning abilities) immature.
I agree.
But being attracted to someone is distinct from having a sexual relationship with them. I can be attracted to a married person, a mentally ill or incompetent person, or even a minor. It’s not necessarily wrong unless I engage with them.
Especially when the age of consent in half the states of the US is 16.
I mean it’s kind of important to be more mindful about the choice of words in general as many people say pedophile but mean child predator.
There are many people born with that attraction to kids that never act on it or even actively seek help.
The whole “let’s call everyone a pedophile” is doing more harm than good as it creates a huge stigma preventing people from looking for help.
That said: they are 100% not caring about that at all and just moving the goalpost…
I do 100% agree that the concept of having hugely varied terms for pedophile, and say the term Minor attracted person, and get really sick of hearing people lash out on when the term MAP is used to say “You just want to protect pedophiles”.
No I want people who have the urge to abuse children, to get treatement and never act on it and live peaceful happy lives where they never harm an innocent person, and to me that is far better of an outcome than a child being abused, but supposedly it gets made up for by the abuser getting tortured in prison.
I don’t know. Can’t we just stigmatize it to the point where their only recourse is to turn to faith and try to live a life of celibacy and denial? They can all become priests or something. That’ll help them with the internalized guilt while they’re at it!
uncomfortable catholic church tugs on its collar
Perhaps it’s a personal failing but I generally don’t care why somebody doesn’t abuse minors, I only really care that they don’t abuse minors.
If the person has never acted on it, then there isn’t really anyway to know and he wouldn’t be labeled with it.
I guess we could be more accepting of people that just download pictures, but downloading those pictures is acting on it, and shows that they have trouble controlling it.
I get your point, and that it isn’t always their fault, but the link between both words seems very justified imo.
Except that people who have not acted on it and are seeking support in continuing to not act on it are afraid of identifying themselves as pedophiles because the association, even amongst mental health professionals, is with the action and not the thoughts.
Ya, that’s a fair point.
I’ve never heard the word hebophile and I bet a lot of people haven’t either. Sometimes when unfamiliar words are introduced as part of a story or event, they become a central part of that story and forever linked to it. Maybe people should use it more regarding trump.
I really wish I lived in a world where psychiatrists could spend time inventing terms for people who prefer rogue-likes versus people who prefer rogue-lites instead of this shit.
I learned about hebophilia yesterday and today I started wondering if I’m supposed to be pronouncing ephebophilia as “ep-hebophilia” or was i right saying “ef-ebophilia”
If you use the definition of hebephilia or ephebophilia as an argument about anything I’m going to think of you as a pedophile.
I don’t know what those words even mean. If in completely honest I don’t think I’ve ever heard of them
Giancarlo has a great joke about it
Says I’m not allowed to watch it without some app I don’t have.
Indeed I misspelled
Gianpolo?
Glanmercator
Ohh okay so now we’re going with the “they’re mature to marry once they hit puberty” thing Somalia does. I feel real bad for Megyn Kelly’s 14 year old daughter.
What a POS
Look at those goalposts go!
Ah, Megyn, glad it’s not some guy spouting “old enough to bleed, old enough to breed” like my drunk uncle at Thanksgiving…
“If there’s grass on the field, play ball!” -Megyn Kelly
It is so predictable that conservatives would end up in “Pedophilia isn’t that bad” once it became undeniable that Great Leader raped little girls.
funny that QAnon stuff circled around Dems having pedo-leanings and that was an OUTRAGE yet now it turns out to be OK, Humane even… wtf? Their morals exist only to stick it to anyone opposing them and they evaporate the second one of their own is caught doing exact thing
Q-anon was never about children.
It was always about the fantasy headline: “Uneducated Everyman Uncovers Massive, World-Altering Secrets and Becomes Huge Hero by Decoding Publicly Published Materials for Unique Connections and Number Puzzles”
They are entirely damaged or dumb or religiously brainwashed people who are so deeply insecure about their lack of factual understanding of the world, that Q-anon became their “gateway” to some kind of real way to impact the world and be recognized for something good.
When a family member of mine fell down this pitcher-plant of mental illness and delusion, I went deep and hard into learning everything I could about the movement and conspiracy culture. Sadly my family member could not be pulled out and was at one point arrested for trying to… abduct girls. Seriously. He rationalized that he was trying to “save” them.
I read somewhere that people like conspiracy theories because it gives them a sense that they know secret information that others don’t know.
I wish I could say my family member was my only exposure to conspiracy derangement, but I’ve know a handful of them.
And it’s ABSOLUTELY what you said. These are people who don’t understand things. They don’t have a grasp of scale of things, they don’t know math and numbers and don’t get how populations work and how systems work, from city infrastructure to political institutions. They get severely insecure or anxious when something comes up that makes them feel that insecurity… like almost any news story or political scandal.
So they write their own story using magic and mysticism and ideas they pulled from grifters online basically telling children’s stories and fairy tales about flat worlds and goblins who steal children.
Having a “secret” story makes them feel knowledgeable, like they have something they can teach others, a way to be relevant and respected. Even if it’s just by other delusional people.
Yep, this pretty much nails it.
The conspiracy makes them feel a sense of importance that they can’t get in any other aspects of their lives. It is sad, these people cause real harm to those around them with these fantasy worlds they buy into.
Telling them they are wrong, often just feeds the delusion; because you don’t know the secrete, this makes them feel more of the same, feeding the conspiracy further.
There is also a kind of reverse virtue signaling to each other about how “edgy” they are when it comes to being steeped in/buying into what they think is insider knowledge…
For example, the ones that claim they are flat-earthers - I honestly think many of them might not really believe it, but use it as a way to play the kid skipping science class and smoking out behind the school, basically as a way to raise up their middle finger to annoy the people they think are just being schoolmarms: “you’re not going to tell ME what to believe, I did my own research!”
The reality is, anyone they think of as a schoolmarm (“normie”) just mostly would rather ignore these asshats, and just roll our eyes at their juvenile and backward ways. Sadly, what these idiots do in large groups ends up harming everyone - e.g., not vaccinating, being terrible at reasoning skills, basic numeracy and literacy, while at the same time being able to vote for the Republicans.
There is much of what you describe in these communities, and a lot of it is even simpler and sadder than that, which is people desperately scared of death and clinging to religion to provide some level of comfort.
One of my favorite documentaries of all time is Dan Olsen’s In Search of a Flat Earth, it’s a sublime journey that starts with a beautiful and pleasant journey into measuring the humbling scope and scale of our world, and in the second act, delves deep into conspiracy theorists and their motivations.
Treating girls as property is a conservative value.
But they’re still probably gonna push to prosecute lgbtq people as pedophiles. They should at least have to pretend to be consistent.
End up? They were already there since at least almost a decade ago.
Supporters defend Roy Moore: “Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter” | Vox - https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/9/16630464/supporters-defend-roy-moore-mary-joseph
There’s a few pedos in every group, also pedo haters. JD Delay is not a Trumper but he’s conservative and always advocates for the woodchipper for pedophiles, but he’s been mostly pointing out pedophiles on the left. That said, he would advocate the woodchipper for any and all of them. His merch includes "“Make Pedophiles Scared Again” shirts and “Woodchipper for President '28” hats.
