It was only in 1969 (nice) that fungi officially became its own separate kingdom.

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    I overheard someone talking about veganism and said they only eat plants. I asked them about mushrooms, “of course it’s fine, those are plants”.
    No amount of convincing worked.

    So I’ve seen it once.

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      Mushrooms are plants in the culinary sense. Like strawberries, blackberries and raspberries are berries in the culinary sense.

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      If anything is close to having a consciousness and experiencing an array of emotion, including suffering. That’s a mushroom, much more than a plant.

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          so hang on, mushrooms are like uh, well not milk, but as if say a cow regrew its meat every season? or maybe like a lizard that regrows its tail?

          mushrooms are weird, man

          wild idea, would it be possible to hijack mycelium with animal DNA and make it grow mushroom shaped meat??

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        Actual animals are far more likely to feel pain that fungi. Do fungi even have a nervous system?

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        First time hearing this but mushroom is a protein source so from diet perspective, I see it as a meet type food. Deff not vegatable

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          So are chickpeas or edamame meat to you? Because they have like 5 times as much protein by weight than mushrooms.

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            I would go with, based totally on feelz, that no because it generally note used like that.

            As you think is all super science here, trust me bro

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          Mushrooms have some protein, but not very much. They aren’t a very good source of protein

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    Fuck you op. Mushrooms are plants, Pluto is a planet, and that’s the truth from one edge of this flat Earth to the other.

    ~disclaimer: this is a joke~

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      Honestly? Flat earth? It’s not even funny as a joke. That entire movement has been so incredibly detrimental, and dangerous. It has shattered families, and been an instruction manual for other conspiracy theorists. And the worst thing of all is that it makes actual, real facts about how the earth is in, in reality, a hollow shell with a breathable atmosphere in its inferior, come across as just as crazy as flat earth. How are we supposed to spread the truth of hollow earth when flat earthers are out there making us look crazy? Just because hollow earth also points out that the government is lying about the earth doesn’t mean we’re the same! People need to know about hollow earth! Otherwise, we’ll never be able to heal the housing market by building condos inside the earth!

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      Honestly? Flat earth? It’s not even funny as a joke. That entire movement has been so incredibly detrimental, and dangerous. It has shattered families, and been an instruction manual for other conspiracy theorists. And the worst thing of all is that it makes actual, real facts about how the earth is in, in reality, a hollow shell with a breathable atmosphere in its inferior, come across as just as crazy as flat earth. How are we supposed to spread the truth of hollow earth when flat earthers are out there making us look crazy? Just because hollow earth also points out that the government is lying about the earth doesn’t mean we’re the same! People need to know about hollow earth! Otherwise, we’ll never be able to heal the housing market by building condos inside the earth!

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      Let’s just acknowledge that anything big enough to be round is a planet. That’s the bare minimum criteria.

      Orbit shapes and clear paths don’t matter, the Solar system isn’t a typical stellar system, many aren’t so stable and ordered, especially in binary and triplet star systems. So the pedantry around the shapes of the orbits of the outer kuiper planets is a very silly thing to argue about. After all most orbits in binary and triplet systems aren’t even predictable long term, let alone not circular.

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          I believe the rule of thumb is binary planets’ barycentre is external to either body. This is the case with Pluto/Charon, I think it’s also the case with Earth/Moon.

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              Yeah, I went and checked after posting.

              My hunch is that if the moon was closer it would ‘drag’ the barycentre closer to the moon.

              Which, given the moon is slowly receeding, means it was probably a binary early on in the formation of the solar system.

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                Other way around, the further apart the objects are the less likely the barycentre is to be inside one of them, you can picture it as a rubber band with a dot drawn on it, the more you stretch it the further the dot gets from both ends even if it gets further from one end faster.

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            That’s a good rule of thumb… but it’s probably not enough; no reasonable definition would call Jupiter a star, or even a brown dwarf, or the Solar System a binary system, yet the Sol - Jupiter barycentre is outside the sun… (the whole system’s barycentre is sometimes inside the sun, but that’s due to Saturn’s, Uranus’, and Neptune’s pulls cancelling Jupiter’s).

            I’d call the barycentre thing a necessary but not sufficient requirement; a proper definition of double planet should probably also take into account other factors like the relative mass and density of the bodies, and their minimum and maximum distance.

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    Pluto is a planet, though. It’s officially considered a “dwarf” planet, and as “dwarf” is just an adjective, it’s still a planet (just like a short person is still a person). The other 8 new dwarf planets (Ceres, Eris, Makemake, Haumea, Gonggong, Quaoar, Orcus, and Sedna) are also all planets - so we have 17 planets total.

    Seriously, though. By the same 3 criteria that Pluto isn’t a planet, Mercury isn’t (as it isn’t in hydrostatic equilibrium).

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    I’ve met people who were certain that bugs weren’t animals

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    The definition of planet is completely subjective, whereas the definition of mushroom is based on science and evolution.

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      Some people believe the earth is flat, I don’t think whether the definition is scientific or not matters much lmao

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      Planet used to mean wandering star, referring to ‘stars’ that didn’t stay in one place but moved around with the days, months, years, or centuries. Obviously not a useful definition these days, I consider a planet a rocky body big enough that it’s gravity makes it almost perfectly round.

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    …this would trigger a friend of mine so badly (fungi enthusiast and Pluto stan). I want to send it, but at the same time… I’m not sure I’d hear the end of it.

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      Send it and report back. I am interested in subscribing to their newsletter. You’ll let them know, right?

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        Except, in cheese and some sausages. Also, I’m not sure yeast counts, because it’s usually dead by the time we eat it in our food.

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          not sure yeast counts because it’s usually dead

          As long as the organism is dead, we’re not eating it? Time to have some steak then, surely that’s not a cow!

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            lol, yeah, but when baking, the yeast gets destroyed pretty bad. i didn’t dare call it yeast at that point, but maybe you’re right.