Consumer Reports shares insights about electric vehicles (EVs) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) from its latest reliability survey, including the most reliable electric car.
Anecdotally speaking, having my 12V battery fail twice without warning which locks you out of your car and leaves you stranded. I think its an accurate statement. I only had an ICE car break down once on me in 20+ years and that was a bad alternator on a 10 year old car.
Dude. I just want to say if you’re telling the truth about one breakdown in 20+ years that is mind boggling. In my 13 years of driving I have broken down in ICE vehicles countless times! Overheating, multiple dead alternators (twice in my truck, once in my wife’s car), snapped serpentine belt, exploded clutch. I’m sure I can think of more, I just find it hard to believe it’s once in 20+ years unless you’ve lived a very nice life with nothing but new cars.
Stop buying fords and buy Toyotas or other Japanese cars except Nissans. But even the Nissans can still drive in limp mode when the transmission fails. Only a few issues will disable a car. I’ve been a car that had the turbo stopped spooljng on a trip to Vegas but it just cut bunch of the power but was still drivable.
Electric cars like the 2020 Tesla Model 3 experienced only 4.9 mechanical breakdowns per 1,000 vehicles on the road, while gas-powered cars from the same model year had a failure rate of 6.9 such incidents
Yeah, as much as I find EVs odd, I do know that proportionally, a larger amount of EV owners tend to be much more tech-savvy than ICEV owners, which can easily skew data that relies on owners posting online like this.
I find it much more plausible that folks that are not tech savvy would complain more. Just look around amazon some times. People sending back fridges because they are too loud at the same day.
My rectractable car roof is broken, it will only do so when the car is in neutral. Is that a knock? Do I have to bring this back while in warranty? etc.
We weigh the severity of each type of problem to create a predicted reliability score for each vehicle, from 1 to 100. We use that information to give reliability ratings for every major mainstream vehicle. (The reliability rating is then combined with data collected from our track testing, as well as our owner satisfaction survey results and safety data, to calculate each test vehicle’s Overall Score.)
Electric cars like the 2020 Tesla Model 3 experienced only 4.9 mechanical breakdowns per 1,000 vehicles on the road, while gas-powered cars from the same model year had a failure rate of 6.9 such incidents in a first of its kind EV reliability study that doesn’t rely on subjective owners’ reports. Both are very low numbers as the cars in the comparison are practically new, yet the simpler construction of EVs put them at a 30% lower chance for a significant breakdown even in this favorable scenario.
…
ADAC tried to compare apples to apples by picking 3-year old cars as that’s when EVs started to meet their registration quantity criteria for inclusion in the reliability report. As can be expected, electric cars had six times less drivertrain problems than internal combustion engines with their numerous moving parts.
“Less reliable” to my mind means breakdowns. But the report is actually based on drivers reporting any “issues”?
Anyone have data on how ICE and EVs compare on actual breakdowns?
Anecdotally speaking, having my 12V battery fail twice without warning which locks you out of your car and leaves you stranded. I think its an accurate statement. I only had an ICE car break down once on me in 20+ years and that was a bad alternator on a 10 year old car.
It’s a common problem with automakers making their first EVs.
I’ve had 12V batteries fail on ICE cars several times.
That doesn’t lock you out. You can still use a physical key to open the car…unless the car design is so poor that it can only be wirelessly unlocked.
Dude. I just want to say if you’re telling the truth about one breakdown in 20+ years that is mind boggling. In my 13 years of driving I have broken down in ICE vehicles countless times! Overheating, multiple dead alternators (twice in my truck, once in my wife’s car), snapped serpentine belt, exploded clutch. I’m sure I can think of more, I just find it hard to believe it’s once in 20+ years unless you’ve lived a very nice life with nothing but new cars.
Stop buying fords and buy Toyotas or other Japanese cars except Nissans. But even the Nissans can still drive in limp mode when the transmission fails. Only a few issues will disable a car. I’ve been a car that had the turbo stopped spooljng on a trip to Vegas but it just cut bunch of the power but was still drivable.
EVs break down less.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-true-EV-reliability-report-shows-30-less-breakdowns-as-ADAC-pegs-low-voltage-batteries-a-weak-point.718821.0.html
Here you go, by ADAC, could hardly get a more reliable source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-true-EV-reliability-report-shows-30-less-breakdowns-as-ADAC-pegs-low-voltage-batteries-a-weak-point.718821.0.html
Yeah, as much as I find EVs odd, I do know that proportionally, a larger amount of EV owners tend to be much more tech-savvy than ICEV owners, which can easily skew data that relies on owners posting online like this.
I find it much more plausible that folks that are not tech savvy would complain more. Just look around amazon some times. People sending back fridges because they are too loud at the same day. My rectractable car roof is broken, it will only do so when the car is in neutral. Is that a knock? Do I have to bring this back while in warranty? etc.
The issues are weighed by severity. So being left stranded weighs more heavily than a leaky sunroof.
Pretty sure they aren’t. It’s just number of problems divided by the number of vehicles.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/
https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-true-EV-reliability-report-shows-30-less-breakdowns-as-ADAC-pegs-low-voltage-batteries-a-weak-point.718821.0.html
…
CR has been playing these word games for a long time now. It’s good people are finally catching on to their obvious biases.