Any regular lurkers here will probably know that the general sentiment in this sub towards PCCB and center lock wheel is pretty negative as they are seen as nothing more than a marketing ploy from Porsche with no real benefits and is a pretty stupid options to choose.

Like, if you prefer lug nuts and steel brakes for whatever reason then you do you really. It’s your car. But when you start calling people stupid for choosing Ceramic Brakes and Center Lock rims then you are just being a hypocrite and an ass.

People keep saying that there are no real benefits of Ceramic Brakes and Center Lock wheel on and off tracks, and in fact makes it harder for maintenances. That might be true. But you know what? Some people don’t care about those things. They just want what looks cool to them. And when you think about it, there really is no real reason why anyone need to buy a sportscar in the first place. It’s a bad financial decision. Encouraging risky and illegal behaviour. It’s also pretty bad for environment. Also annoys your neighbour.

But we get them anyway because we like them and that’s all there is to it. Same goes for whatever options people choose on their car. So it’s really hypocritical when people here try to tell others why they are not supposed to like ceramic brakes and centerlock wheels. Just make ya’ll seems like an angry vocal reddit car nerds with strong opinion honestly.

So yeah, tone down with the echochamber and let people enjoy what they like.

  • Kinky_mofo@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    You are so right, based on the ridiculous arguments here. So many “I like to work on my car” but “I’m afraid of center locks” comments. Or my new fav, “shop professionals hate them.” And???

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    1 year ago

    I track my car regularly. Currently going through extensive modification to the suspension and Aeros. I’ll forever buy pccb, I personally feel the weight on corner entry. I love the feel and performance and I’m Way more confident with pccb than steel.

    The downside is the cost, and once I need rotor replacement, I’ll need to make hard decisions, surface transformer? AP racing package? I don’t know, but as a 9k option, it’s a no brainer for me.

    For center lock, I’d like it if it were easy like it is with Motorsport. It is easier and faster with good old lug nuts than center lock.

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    1 year ago

    Have both on my Turbo S. Clean wheels, fantastic braking and looks cool. Phuck the jealous haters 😂

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    1 year ago

    And for those of us not swapping tires at a track each week, how often do we really need to remove the wheels? For me, it’s somewhere between next to never and never.

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      1 year ago

      Every 5,000 miles? (Tire rotations). Every brake pad change? Every time I’m jacking the car up fiddling around when stuff?

      I get some people are afraid of tools, but a lot of us car enthusiasts do work on our vehicles fairly regularly.

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        1 year ago

        I’d argue that since any Porsche that has center lugs is a sports car, it likely means the front and rear tires are different sizes and a lot of modern tires are one-directional. Meaning I don’t think it’s even possible to rotate tires in that case anyway making it even less often you’d actually be taking them off.

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        1 year ago

        I do all maintenance and repairs myself and I remove my wheels way less than once a year on average (don’t need winter tires). How would you do tire rotations on a car that has different sizes front and rear and performance tires you cant swap left to right?

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          1 year ago

          You running directional tires? I’m not. Michelin 4s are asymmetrical but not directional. Yes I’m aware of Michelin’s ‘staggered warranty’ language on their website, but the tires aren’t stamped directional.

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        1 year ago

        Everybody knows if you run directional tires the wrong way your car slides around like it’s on ice

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        1 year ago

        I don’t jack up my car and fiddle with stuff, so no bother to me. And not sure why centerlocks would spark fear for an enthusiast who likes working on their car.

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    1 year ago

    Center lock is just a fastening mechanism.

    Ceramics take a bit to “warm up”. I run ceramics with high carbon rotors. They usually squeal a bit in the morning and go away quickly. I can get into a spirited drive where there’s advantages on the brakes, but most people are just “commuters” that think they need something they don’t need.

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      1 year ago

      also in general, carbon brakes prefers a single firm application insted of a lot of gentle taps wich is fine if you are on track but if you are in traffic it gets annoying preatty quickly

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    1 year ago

    those people are just delusional. You can go round and round with that argument until it gets the point of ‘nobody needs anything more than a civic on the street’. I got ceramics on my gt3 because personally i think chalk with yellow calipers and seat belts looks better than chalk with red ones. the lack of brake dust is an added bonus

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      1 year ago

      Lack of brake dust is a huge bonus.

      With all the rim theft going on around the country center locks is also a plus 😂. Doubt criminals are riding around with a center lock tool

    • Known-Diet-4170@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I got ceramics on my gt3

      you also have a gt3, wich i imagine you’d be using on track from time to time were they are actually usefull

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    1 year ago

    Personally I’d much rather have steel rotors and 5 lug wheels, overall it is just much easier and cleaner and cheaper to deal with on a street car.

    PCCBs are sweet though, downright impressive performance.

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    1 year ago

    “We all want to buy a garage queen and sell a whore.”

    - Abraham Lincoln most likely

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    1 year ago

    I think ceramics are better on track. I just don’t want to pay for them.

    The centerlocks are stupid IMO, because I’ve had to spend a few thousand dollars on tools just to be able to take them off. If someone loves them, fine.

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    1 year ago

    I don’t get the hate for PCCBs either. You never have to clean your wheels again, but more importantly, they weigh half what steel brakes weigh. I loved the PCCBs on my 997.