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    Just to be the contrarian: my first job in my current industry was through a recruiter on LinkedIn. It got me an instant 50% salary bump and after a few years and promotions I was making double the previous job.

    My second job was… through a recruiter on LinkedIn. It got me an instant 30% salary bump and now after more years and promotions I’m over double the first job.

    This in in a country where I had immigrated 10 years prior. For me linkedin is the best social network ever.

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      Not a contrarian take, happy that worked for and to hear your success story.

      Who initiated the conversation with recruiter? you or them?

      Linkedin never worked for me, not in the beginning in my career, not 10 years later but maybe I was using it wrong (first job was some random job board, 2nd was cold emailing a CTO, …)

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        Always the recruiter initiating. As anyone working in IT, I get multiple messages a week, one in ten are relevant and one in ten of those are interesting, but I’m not jumping jobs every year, so it works in the end.

        Its really just have a complete profile, listing keyword technologies. In the meantime I have a few recommendations but I don’t think those make a difference.

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          How long has it been since you were recruited? I avoid LinkedIn, but I’ve never needed to look for work because my dad knew a guy and I proved competent when that got my foot in the door.

          Still, from what I have heard in the last year or so it has become, at least in part, a cesspool of scams and disingenuous employers wasting your time in their search for cheaper labor… both often powered by LLMs.

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    i reckon you could walk away from a con with a new job, living situation, and even a romantic partner if you wanted. furries are weirdly good at networking for how often they’re treated as weird pariahs by normies.

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      They are outcasts of society, so they stick together. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a network of furies all looking out for each other in every field. They probably have a secret handshake or wink or something.

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    As a furry that doesn’t attend conventions, this is having me reconsider it.

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    I got contacted randomly on Linkedin by some recruiter. I needed a job right after college, and figured might aswell hear her out. Turned out my dream job just kinda fell into my lap that day.

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      The thing is I hate dealing with recruiters because they’ll never tell you anything unless you go behind their back, but the only reason I’d be incentivized to go behind their backs is because they are all universally useless, don’t answer emails, don’t negotiate a decent salary for you, and don’t listen to basic instructions like I’m not willing to move out of the local area (they define the local area to be the entiretive of planet Earth, but predominantly Dubai).

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      I hate you. I’ve been trying to get into my dream job for 21 years to no avail, and yours just falls into your lap right after school.

      Life under captialism isn’t fair.

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    Unfortunately the perverts I hang out with are largely programmers and nurses and I’m neither, which really kills my networking options

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        Once in a while? Try weekly, more like. Echography is a killer of joints something bad. If you’re a massage therapist and know obgyn and midwives, you’ve got your market right there.

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    D: state-run job websites for the unemployed. You don’t have to be unemployed to use them, nor a resident of that state. The listings are at least not scams, and you don’t have to pay anything to apply, but success at getting hired is still low.

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            yeah, pedophilia, indoctrination, cult based on lies, and shame culture that is based on lies and falsehoods. probably more. but child care is so expensive.

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                NGL, that’s gotta confuse the hell outta the rare MAGAt “thinker”—even their coprolithic idol doesn’t offer childcare at any level.

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            Depends how good you are at playing the part, without actually doing any of the bad stuff. Churches vary, but often, it’s one of those places where the tribal symbols are more important than actual substance, so taking advantage is very possible.

            See: Whatever super-rich televangelist. If you’re doing something similar, because you’re poor and can’t afford childcare, there’s an argument that’s not even bad, then.

            Edit: Although, if OP means Sunday school or youth group specifically, the kids are going to be exposed to some shit, which you’ll have to manage. An adult telling you you’re going to burn alive, and that’s good, isn’t really fun for an 8-year-old.

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              without actually doing any of the bad stuff.

              They all indoctrinate children, and while you did comment on that shared tradition later, it’s worth highlighting as unavoidable —not to mention heinous as it attacks the unarmed and generally trusting minds of children. 😢

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                Yeah, I’m not actually sure what OP meant, now. If your kid’s in Sunday school, aren’t you going to be spending time in the service, anyway? I guess if you just dropped them and ran, it’d be hard for them to say no.

                Maybe you could get away with that when they’re really little. Once they’re school aged, leaving them unsupervised would be better than in the hands of whatever bunch of church ladies, and the Catholic church has a whole other layer of reputation.

                From their perspective, we’re the ones trying to hide our children from ideas that are correct and vital, so they can justify it to themselves. Trying to defend the standard, evangelical version of hell is harder, which is why it’s good to bring up.

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      Let me know how that goes.

      Is there an Intro to Furry Guide and a FAQ?

      Are there classes I can take to get Furry Certified?

      Do I need to engage in sexual activity which doesn’t align with my current non-furry orientation?

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        Furries are typically nonsexual. It’s more often than not just roleplay for autistics.

        Source, autistic furry who doesn’t want to fuck in the extremely expensive fursuit

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          There’s 2 types of furries:

          I paid a ton of money for this fursuit, I don’t want to ruin it by having sex in it!

          I paid a ton of money for this fursuit, of course I’m going to use it for sex!

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        It’s a one question quiz, actually:

        Do you want to be a furry? Yes or no?

        If yes, congrats! You’re now a furry.

        I’m actually an asexual furry. So no, you don’t have to engage in any sex at all. I like the aesthetic and I’ve met a bunch of my friends through the fandom as a shared point of commonality.

        Probably the biggest question you’ll get asked as a new furry is “what is your fursona?” If you say you don’t have one, everyone will make a pitch to try to sell you on theirs. (psst Maned wolves are cool.)

        For a more in depth explanation, take a look at furscience. They’re an actual research institution studying the fandom.

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          Maned wolves are cool

          As someone who lives where they are naturally occurring, I can confirm that they are cool. There’s also a specific tree (lobeira, Solanum lycocarpum) that’s essential to their diet and needs those wolves to reproduce.

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            That’s awesome! I would imagine that the roar barks at night are probably the stuff of nightmares… unless you know it’s coming from those goofy ass noodle leg guys.

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        I’m guessing people would be weirded out if they knew you weren’t actually furry-inclined, so it’s probably more down to being a good actor, if you’re just there to network. And then basic networking skills, after that.

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        For the real Furry Certificate, you need long socks and to install and use specifically Arch Linux.

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        I found joining a job search counsel via the book never search alone to be helpful. You didn’t have to read the book first because reading the book is part of the JSC.

        Might be worth your time looking into it.

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            Here: https://www.neversearchalone.org/jsc

            I would also recommend the book Take the Work Out of Networking.

            I’ve talked to several recruiters, and outside of entry level positions none of them are interviewing anyone who doesn’t have a referral because there are so many referrals they find enough qualified candidates before they get to the non-referrals. That’s a product of just how bad the job market is.

            I’m about to post two jobs myself with a total comp of ~$180k and I already have enough referrals that I won’t interview anyone that isn’t a referral. And the posting isn’t even up yet.

            The JSC via Never Search Alone paired with Take the Work Out of Networking has all the skills and advice needed to navigate the current job market as successfully as possible.

            I wish you all the best, and am happy to answer as many questions as I can if you’d like.

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              Woah, this maybe a good way of contributing what seems to be a skill I have. Not trying to brag but as a 33 year old skidmark on the national economy, I am currently batting 1000 on job interviews over my life. I have multiple times just quit a job on the spot and had a new one before weeks end. I’m not sure why, or how, but I have never been interviewed and not offered the job. Mind, none of them have required “skills” or “education” beyond what I’ve picked up along the way, they could be called entry level jobs but I’ve never really seen a path upward in any of the companies, doesn’t seem to work like that anymore. Just jobs, ~$40k a year usually with benefits. I have always had a hard time understanding why people who “can’t find work” don’t just take a job that’s available while they look for the perfect one. Spoiler, I have never found a perfect job, aside from working for myself.

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                Because often, if they can even get it, the “job thats available” is so physically/mentally demanding that job searching while you have the job is untenable. They often dont give leeway for job interviews, so even trying is risking your only source of support for the vague chance of something that might be better.

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                I’ll pick up on one piece, humbling ourselves to take a job we see as below us is hard. I’ve done it before and it was a huge ego hit. A friend who’s been unemployed for over a year is facing that now. It’s not an easy path.

                And some income is often better than none.

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                  I guess I have never seen a paying job as “below me”. Some jobs aren’t worth the pay, but that’s different imo. Cleaning up sewer overflow after a storm for $20/hr in 2010 wasn’t enough, but $40 sure was.

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            Yeah, I’m sorry I don’t really know the reference. It seems to be a TV series or a town in the US

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              Yeah it’s a big military/fbi town. The joke was the FBI removed the exemption of people who’ve had sex with animals. I never thought I would see that reading the news.

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                An early job of mine was in the FBI Academy cafeteria. Very familiar with the area. Forgot about the “loving animals” reference, so it took your explanation for me to catch the joke.

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                  That’s pretty cool. My sister and brother in law are there now so I’ll be taking a visit there.