• AviAdi@lemmy.world
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    Technology has stopped becoming a tool and a utility and has instead become a form of control. Where we once felt freedom to explore the internet and learn about new things we now have. This technology turned against us to track our every second and control our every thought. Plus the endless crap updates that just make things worse over time instead of better, yeah I could see why people just gave up on this bullshit.

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      Almost every refuge in internet is for profit data hungry giants. Where are the random forums, personal blogs and the virtual world that used to exist.

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        But also open source, self hosting, and diy tech is booming

        how can I use it to feed my family? I’m genuinely asking, I lost my enterprise job I hated.

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          Honestly, here’s the thing. My PC is still running Win10. It just works. My life is stressful and chaotic and my escape is gaming. I love modded Skyrim and I love gaming and when I get a chance to sit down at my computer I just want to fucking escape. I don’t want to troubleshoot, I don’t want to fiddle, I just want to load my game and have fun.

          That is what has been keeping me from switching to Linux these past few years. I have Win10 tweaked in the registry so it can’t run copilot or AI, the start menu can’t connect to the Internet so it can’t show me ads, it’s still Microsoft and I don’t love it but I don’t have to think about it.

          If someone came along and said hey, for $100 I’ll install Linux on your computer, make sure all your drivers are installed, make sure all your hardware works, and get your games and files moved over, tested and working, and be around to troubleshoot in the future and teach you basic troubleshooting if you need me (for an additional reasonable fee), I’d pay it. I’m not made of money, but I don’t want to spend my time or limited brain power doing that stuff and I’d be more than happy to offload it to someone else.

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            modded Skyrim

            Probably a good thing you haven’t switched then. In my experience setting up mod manager and any external tools (like Nemesis) was not easy, but it’s doable. Mods themselves may not work though, especially if they are more external to Skyrim. So, for example, you can forget about ENB shaders. I mean, when I tried them they worked, but basically no other mods and in an empty area with 7fps is not exactly playable (on Windows it was unstable ~30fps with mods).

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              Vortex is a flaming turd on linux. I recently deployed a 2300 mods collection for CP2077 with it. It took around 35 hours - with a premium nexusmods account, and thr download itself was only around 1 hour. In comparison, the multiplatform NexusMods App they mothballed completed the same task in about 3 hours, but since it never was really finished, it failed at the end of deployment. There is a community fork of the Nexusmods App available, but it sadly failed the same way - it can’t cope with really large collections, and i am not good enough of a programmer to really help out - i can read code as long as it does stay simple, but writing it is a completely different thing.

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                Apparently there is such a thing as a “Nexus Collection Downloader” for Mod Organizer 2, although I’ve never tried it. MO2 generally works fine though.

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                  Will give it a whirl. My experience with Vortex after seeing the NexusmodsApp, that was coming along nicely, being shelved to go back to their tech-debt ridden piece of shit client (even back when i used it on windows it was a buggy mess, and the experience on linux is far worse with awful r/w performance and loads of different UI glitches. Once the whole window just collapsed into a 1x5 cm square with one black and 3 white borders while i was doing something else on the pc not even involving the app - unrecoverable. I became so infuriated that i even posted on the nexusmods forums (https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/13543600-useable-linux-support/ - i was somewhat surprised that the mods approved the post at all, but since noone engages with the post, i will probably not get any response regarding their plans)

                  Edit: If anyone stumbles over this thread and also has issues with Vortex under linux: steamtinkerlaunch has integrated support for automated setup of MO2, Vortex and HedgeModManager, syntax is ‘steamtinkerlaunch <mo2/vortex/hmm> install’. This also downloads a costum proton version for running these tools.

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              I had heard it was an issue in Linux. I’m running Lost Legacy and Yggdrasil (Skyrim VR) which are both 100+ gb mod packs (and highly recommend them both, Lost Legacy is breathtakingly beautiful). Lost Legacy is also very stable and runs very smoothly, especially compared to some of the other pre built mod packs I’ve tried.

              If I did get brave and make the switch, is this something that theoretically could be run in a Windows VM or would it be better to dual boot and keep Windows hanging around for Skyrim?

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            As someone who does Linux tech support for 2 people as a hobby/because I love them, it would cost you more than $100 for all that.

            But $300 for the setup and then $100 per year for support would be reasonable as long as you don’t expect me to drop everything and rush over when something changes/breaks.

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              I’d happily pay that if it allowed me to not have to deal with it.

              I’m not a technological idiot, it’s just not my thing and I find it very stressful to deal with. It would be worth it to me to not have to.

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                I hear you. It’s a pain even when you have the skills to do it. I am looking for a secondary income stream and want more people using Linux, so maybe I should offer that for people. But ugh, the ways a computer can break can be so stupid.

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            I understand that you do not want to fiddle with a computer, I was once like that and that is what kept me from switching to any OS on my computer. I want to let you know as an experienced Linux user though that once you setup linux, you do not need to do any more fiddling. For the files and personal stuff, just back it up to an external hard drive. That is pretty much it. I could help you for free, but I do not really have somewhere to message anyone.

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              This is completely false ime. Updates can break your setup, though on stable distros they usually don’t. Also anytime I installed a game I’d have to invest time to set it up. For older games this could take an hour or more to get everything working. For newer games some features might not even work.

              I ditched Linux for a reason. It was useable but I need my gaming machine to be stress free, not another work project.

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                I was referring to stable distros. But once you got all your games set up, aren’t you kinda good to go? But I get your point still, though.

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          Not sure unless you find people that want to switch over to non Microsoft etc products and you help them. I had a decent side gig getting people out of marketing companies by building them basic static websites and an email. Mainly plumbers, machine shops etc. They went from paying over a grand a month to like 20 bucks. It got out of hand from word of mouth and my lack of knowleges pretty quickly though

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          This might not be your issue but replace the subscriptions you use with FOSS ones.

          Windows for Linux. MS365 Office for LibreOffice (although I guess you could say Google docs too). DropBox for Filen (or other services). … Gameing for retro Roms? Etc.

          Theres also lots of foss support for pirating streamed media.

          I couldn’t belive how many my live at home 18yr old cousin was paying for.

          • hotspot WiFi
          • playataton online
          • game pass to play whatever game
          • Netflix
          • Spotify
          • YT premium
          • … let alone the mobile plan itself
        • turtlesareneat@piefed.ca
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          Got a kickstarter for a cool idea, and a friend with a podcast with like 12 million subscribers? This is about the barrier to entry. But you’re going to be OK, maybe you go take a boring, stable job like a state university, and make up the difference in pay by consulting during work hours. Maybe it’s not so bad.

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        I’ve spent the past couple of years moving away from Apple devices and commercial software, into self-hosting as much as possible. While at this stage I wouldn’t go back to my previous set up, there’s no denying that it’s nowhere near as stable and easy to maintain.

        Home Assistant, for example, is an incredible tool; that fails to turn some lights on and off far more often than Alexa ever did. It’s frustrating. Not so much that I’m going to bin it off and go back to relying on Amazon, but enough that I mostly just end up feeling kinda pissed off that the big companies have pushed me into a place where I’ve had to learn how to be a part time sysadmin, alongside my 9-5.

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          that fails to turn some lights on and off

          This is the biggest issue I have with smart gadgets and home automation - they fuck up. Not even getting into the additional pains of fixing the automation when it fails, I’ve literally never gone wrong with pressing a light switch, or possibly pulling a cord. Full 100% success rate without rounding, even when the wifi’s down. I have to walk past the switches (and cords) to enter and exit rooms, so not pressing them on the way past doesn’t even save me any actual time.
          Most of the automation I see seems to be the same - it introduces a chance of failure to something that already works, and/or imagines itself a solution to something that isn’t actually a problem. Boilers, fridges, toasters, beds - these were basically solved technologies until someone came along and decided to reinvent the wheel.
          There’s a handful that do provide quality of life improvements to disabled people, but the overwhelming majority just seem to be parlour tricks that don’t reduce the human workload.

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            For me, the utility is in being able to turn a bunch of lights on and off at the same time. We have a number of lamps, or light strings or what have you, rather than one or two big lights. Put them all in Home Assistant and I can set all the ones I want to turn on half an hour before sunset without having to touch a button. And 99% of the time it’s fine.

            Equally, I can have a few lights turn on in the bedroom shortly before I go up to bed, then turn off half so there’s enough light to read by, then turn off every light in the house with the press of a button. And it is a button, because I don’t have a voice assistant set up.

            Also, I have a bunch of temperature sensors around the house.

            None of it is essential, but it’s a nice quality of life upgrade for my wife and me.

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      I am curious as to how out-of-touch your single downvoter is. Because you hit that nail right on the head.

      Like, for my current place I’m still designing a CCTV system. But it will be using dumb PoE cameras, hardwired into a traditional NVR. But everything will be shielded, airgapped, and using dumb(ish) components that do not “phone home” to their manufacturer in any fashion.

      I’m even looking into solid state and mechanical components for other home automation functionality. Like, nothing computerized to any degree, and therefore, incapable of being a threat or a data leak.

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      Theyre still tools, still utilities. Just because douchebags are using them in power games more often doesn’t make them any less so.

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      Technology nowadays is basically a cult, a coercitive cult. They often take technology as an end in itself rather than as a means to other ends, they reify it and even deify it, and they treat any moderate stance as an enemy and as a brake on their shitty eschatology.

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    20 years ago, technically competent people had an integral role in the development and use of tech. That position is now infested with people who think economics is a science and money is real.

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      Technically economics is a subset of sociology and thusly is a science. But the people your probably referring to probably wouldn’t consider a backyard blacksmith to be under goods manufacturing either so ditto. This is just a reminder that economics isn’t just dumbasses who think that the only thing that matters is line go up, but the actual science side of it are generally in secondary fields or quietly working for the government or certain consultants.

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        As an intellectual discipline, economics is closer to theology than physics, with finance an entirely arbitrary, cherry picked subset of rules to justify a particular economic model.

        Economics is the control mechanism that filled the void in society, vacated by religion, after the Enlightenment. Every economic model is functionally equivalent to any flavour of religion, just with a little extra accounting blended in.

        We did away with one unhinged narrative construct, things can’t get better until the current dominant fantastical conjuring is dispelled.

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          As an intellectual discipline, economics is closer to theology than physics

          Absolutely. Ask any economist where clean air sits in any economic model, and they would call it an “externality”. Or a healthy forest. Or clean water. Or any of the other hundreds of millions of things that make life on this planet - or even a vibrant civilization - possible.

          It’s also why capitalism is the most cancerous economic system possible, and leads only to ugly fascism-adjacent authoritarian feudalism and (eventual) systemic civilizational collapse and the early death of billions just so a few obscenely wealthy people can accumulate even more wealth before the end.

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          So is history, but a whole lot of it is still scientifically based. The term soft science has existed exactly for this purposes for decades.

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      Ecunomics is a science. It is not hard science, and like all science, what you derive from it depends on the hypotheses you made.

      True economist can work with unreal hypotheses and get wrong conclusions. The fact that it’s not hard science allows a bench of idiots to decide they know better an come up with flat-earth level theories like trickle down economics.

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      That’s the history of enshitification in a nutshell (sorry to people who hate the term, it’s just apt).

      Engineers had some social power in these institutions for a brief moment. Sadly, we weren’t able to get to any kind of class consciousness before the space was enclosed by capital, not even basic trade unionism.

      All they had to do was make some of us millionaires and the rest basically comfortable until our skills were devalued enough that we’d lost our bargaining power as workers.

      Anyway, best time to plant a tree 20 years ago and all that…

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    Just came back from a 4 day camping trip in the mountains where I turned my phone off and forgot it existed and just sat back down in my seat in my cubicle at my IT job.

    I’m fucking over this.

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      Hear me out… anti-WiFi trees.

      They grow towards any RF signals and their leaves are specially shaped to attenuate anything over 900MHz. They use the extra energy to increase their density to better resist harvesting and increase their height.

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        I read about a fungus found near the reactor in Chernobyl that seemed to be using the radiation as an energy source, so it seems plausible for a plant to evolve to absorb RF energy.

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          The actual energy in the RF is basically nothing. The sun has been outputing RF since the beginning of existence I’m pretty sure something would have evolved to make use of it if it had any sufficient energy density.

          But if you think about it your phone is generating an RF field off the back of a tiny lithium ion battery, almost all of that power is going to power the screen anyway, the dribble of power that so left over is transmitted and then spread out over 50 kilometers of area. Anyone location is receiving less power than it would if it just absorbed power from sound waves

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    I’m mildly interested in one of those coffee mugs that heats your coffee, as I drink mine slowly while working.

    But I don’t want an app for that. I just want a wireless charger puck and a temperature dial, with maybe a failsafe so it doesn’t overheat when empty.

    So much tech should be small little closed systems, but then you lose the ability to shove pop up ad notifications at the user, or scrape and sell their location, or preinstall residential prices you rent to highly suspicious companies.

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        One issue is that it starts hot and very slowly loses heat.

        A smart mug can be set to your desired temperature, get there immediately, and stay there.

        That being said, as a former Ember mug user, there is no need for that thing to only be controllable through an app. A dial on the side would be fine.

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          If you close it, the rate of heat loss in even a cheap vacuum flask is minimal, as in “scalding hot coffee poured in the morning is too hot to drink 8 hour later” minimal.

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          very slowly

          Do you need it to be scalding hot the next day or something? My thermos keeps things insanely hot for like 12 hours. It’s actually pretty ridiculous because sometimes the coffee I made before 8 am is too hot to drink even by lunch.

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            It’s actually pretty ridiculous because sometimes the coffee I made before 8 am is too hot to drink even by lunch.

            That’s the exact problem a heated mug solves. It cools quickly then stays at your ideal temperature.

            That’s the point I was trying to make.

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        just get a cheap ceramic mug and drink your coffee faster. Are we putting caffeine into our bodies or are we just fucking around?

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            mm. I suppose theres nothing wrong with fucking around. I should fuck around more. OK I withdraw my grumpy comment. I think I’ve grown as a person.

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      I got gifted an Ember and while it had an app, I never installed it or used any smart tech. Out of the box it was set to some temperature that was reasonable, so that was that

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      Tea candles are wonderful for this. I keep my Chemex over a candle and pour myself smaller cups from it, but I’m sure you can find solutions where you put the coffee cup directly over the candle as well. A coffee cup with built-in heating elements and electronics sounds insanely overkill.

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        Or you could use a spirit lamp instead of a candle. Top up the lamp and your drink with alcohol!

        Don’t actually do this unless you have some very high % drinking spirits, fuels usually have various toxic things added to them to prevent you from having fun.

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      Look into getting a burnout mug. They have an extra layer before the vacuum layer that quickly absorbs heat then retains it to cool hot drinks to a drinkable temp then holds them there for hours. Zero electronics.

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      All this tech will be hugely inefficient and destined for failure until it becomes self contained and independent of a subscription.

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    10 years ago, I privately refused a gifted Alexa after Christmas, explaining “Hey I work in the industry, I know people who work for FAANG, Amazon spending billions on very smart engineers building systems to harvest data is a bet that they will be able to extract even more money from me, is it still within the return window.” My aunt told me to go live in a cave.

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      Something tells me that aunt calls for help when they have tech issues.

      Maybe just personal experience…

      For help, you know what you talk about. But if it is about privacy or safety, I am hyperbolic… apparently

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      I was gifted an Alexa by a (previous) girlfriend. I haven’t even opened it because I have very little use for an AI companion. And I too know people working in FAANG and how invasive those smart devices are.

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      Things like this is why I don’t even bother.
      “Thanks Aunt!” then just chuck it into the trash at home.
      Or try replacing the brains with a Raspberry Pi, idk.

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    I still like technology. It’s still possible to find technology that doesn’t spy on you and that you can control yourself. I use Mint, by the way.

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      It’s not the technology that’s the problem (mostly), it’s the corporations that control 99% of it.

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        Installing Linux and bucking the yoke of Microsoft from my private life has reminded me that using a computer used to be fun and rewarding. Not even kidding.

        My brother wanted to play Project Zomboid on a private server, and I’ve had more fun setting up and managing the server than I’ve had playing a lot of games that came out in the last few years. I need to get the time to setup CRON to jobs backup and update the server and mods. I’m trying to figure out if I can do it all from my Proxmox OS, or if I need to build separate cron jobs both inside and outside the VM and schedule them with enough buffer that they won’t run at the same time… Trying to get a nice and quiet hour to myself to really dig into it.

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          Dude exactly the same here. I didnt realize computing had become depressing to me. Linux made me feel young again!

          side note one of my co workers said it got so bad and he hates windows so much he just pretends he doesn’t have a laptop and uses his phone for everything. I’m like…bro go mint. Its so much better.

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            I have to use a Windows 11 machine for work, and I feel better every week about my decision to switch my personal computer from Win 10 to Mint. I’m trying to get my wife to switch over, but she swears up and down that she needs Microsoft Office to do basic document functions… I’d love nothing more than to get her away from that, and stop the $160 or so that I spend every year on Microsoft office.

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              seems like we have the same life. I also am forced onto 11 for work, and i DESPISE IT. every second i’m on win11 makes me so thankful i got rid of that garbage in my personal life. My SO actually did switch to Mint with me and we’ve worked through issues together, now we joke that she’s “Defeated Lynux” xD. So far, not a single thing has needed windows, except one time i tried to do a firmware update on a mouse through a linux vm with windows and bricked the mouse, and needed actual windows to reflash it. But thats a very small use case. and we can’t play spyware trash games like pubg or fortnite (which are brainrot anyways). I do miss pubg a little bit tbh, just driving around and causing havoc ha.

              ah, unfortunate that they need office. Libreoffice won’t work at all?

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                NGL. I kinda miss League of Legends. I’ve been looking for ways to run it from a VM, no dice. I may end up making a portable installation of Windows 11 and keep it on a removable SSD, and then only boot it when I really get a hankering for playing Ivern.

                Libreoffice would work fine, but it looks different, and for the layman, that can be completely unacceptable.

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    Techies stopped jumping on the newest gadgets when the newest gadgets became plastic slop that did nothing but track what you said, did, where you went, etc, and reported it back to the company so they could build a profile of you and sell that data.

    normies buy the shit now because its affordable (Because of the afformentioned creepware) and because they cant be bothered to do a modicum of research to realize theres a 98.6% chance that the device will be non-functional in a year because the company collapsed (having harvest all the information it needed before rebranding as a new company to do it all over again) and took the online servers with it, because of course your fucking toaster totally needs online servers to operate.

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      But while going bankrupt, it will sell all information about you to the biggest bidder. Terms and services for you fryer included sharing data with “partners”, so now your health insurance can jack up your premium because you used the fryer “too much for your own good”.

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      It took extra effort to find a damn washer and dryer that did not want internet access.

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    That’s the biggest mindfuck for me.

    In the 90s and 2000s, people made fun of me for constantly being on the computer whenever possible. Now those same people are completely hooked on their pocket computers and now I’m the one making fun of them.

    I don’t know how we got to this point, but all I know is that Steve Jobs is mostly to blame. The iPhone changed everything and now nobody knows how to interact with each other anymore, which is especially frustrating when trying to get assistance from anyone for anything. Even the simple process of returning a product to a store is now a lot more frustrating than it used to be, because the person running customer service absolutely refuses to interact with the customer.

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      The other day a mail informed me, that my battlenet account was locked due to suspicious activity. I went to the website to get support. Unlocking my account via the “support” did not do anything. I tried creating a ticket or talking to someone. You need to log into your account to do that.

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      Even the simple process of returning a product to a store is now a lot more frustrating than it used to be, because the person running customer service absolutely refuses to interact with the customer.

      i kinda assume that businesses give out the guideline to hesitate when taking back objects, as they lose money that way (lower net revenue).

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      Corporates perfected the Marketing department, also known as the Department of Lies and Half Truths so well, that even they believe their own spiel these days.

      Mass Psychosis, I think it’s called, when everyone gets swept in a single line of thought and herd mentality sets in.

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    Stuff like that was also kind of present in the past.

    My non-gamer friends suddenly became gamers thanks to 3D games.

    I remember people telling me not to buy a video game controller, because everything will be motion controls in the future.

    My stepfather wanted to cut our cable TV internet the moment 3G modems came out. He even talked about Soviet TVs with wired remotes to try to convince me and my mother.

    My late stepmother accepted that I won’t go to a trade school to become some kind of repairman after Facebook became popular, although she thought “software developer” was the same as “CNC machine programmer”.

    I call this phenomenon “normietech”, and AI is the worst example of it.

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      The difference is that the things you mentioned are mostly conspiracy shit or just people not knowing better and be afraid.

      However we have intelligent people being afraid because they understand and normies not being bothered because they don’t understand…

      I think this is worse.

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      The first part maybe, but not the second. That’s a wholly new thing since electronic has come to mean being tracked.

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    20 years ago, normal people avoided technology and techies would jump on the newest gadgets as soon as they could.

    Now, normal people buy smart toasters & coffee mugs while every techie I know is on the verge of retreating to the forest

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    I just ordered a mechanical watch. Primarily because I think they’re cool, but it not even having a battery feels as far away from a smartwatch as you can get to me, and I like that too.

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      honestly, I like my Seiko mechanical watch, but there would be periods I wouldn’t wear it and then have to re-set the time often enough that it irritated me and I got a Citizen Eco-Drive, and I fucking love the thing. It does everything I need from a watch: tells me the date, tells me the time, has an easy way to switch on/off DST, even automatically accounts for leap years and has a few functions like a stopwatch and a timer that I never use; but it doesn’t play stupid games like modern tech and it never needs winding.

      Having said that, seeing the winding mechanism through the clear back glass of my Seiko is magical in a way you can’t get from any electronic watch.

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          I have bad news for you…

          In all seriousness though, I have a case with a winder for a mechanical watch, and while it keeps the mechanism ready the watch still needs to be reset regularly. Mechanical watches can’t match the precision of quartz crystal timing. They will gain or lose a few seconds every day even if kept perfectly wound, and after a week in the winder it will be noticeably off.

          A $10 digital watch keeps time more accurately than a $1000 Swiss mechanism.

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          they do, but I’m not enough of a watch collector to necessitate owning one (I have a grand total of two, the two I just listed, and one is usually on my wrist)

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        Yeah, I bought an Eco-Drive 10 years ago and it’s still working great. I never have to worry about it, it just works. I’ve bought two more since, the very cheapest basic model I could find (BM-8180 https://ebay.io/m/wZhDp4), and a fancier dressier one (CA-4553 https://ebay.io/m/TbSiJ5). My original GN-4W-S has taken a real beating over a decade, the glass and body are scratched all to hell, it’s been dropped and banged against door frames &etc. It doesn’t seem to mind, still keeping time like it did brand new.

        If you want a watch that just does its job and doesn’t really need anything from you, the Citizen Eco-Drive models are great.

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        TIL about Citizen Eco-Drive watches. Looked them up. I like them!

        I’ll try living that mechanical watch life first, but if I have the same irritations, could see me going the same route.

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    If there’s fiber and a nearby hospital in the forest count me in.

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      The hospital thing is a big one. My wife and I had considered moving to a remote location but the risk of significant injury without nearby medical facilities was one thing that changed our mind. It’s hard to accept that risk, even when you think it would probably be worth it. Medical problems ƒ suck.

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    20 years ago was 2006.

    I do not recall any tech resistance by the masses. In fact a couple years later there were people camping out overnight waiting for the release of the latest gadgets like the iphone.

    Ffw to today…those same masses dgaf about their lives being tracked and monetized today; in fact, many are active and willing sycophants pushing being social media personalities as careers while using that personality to shit on higher education and intelligence.

    I do agree that the limited tech community capable of independent thought and action are against the surveillance corporate state we’re headed into, but the rest are doing their best to hurry and profit off it while the dumpster fire flames get closer and closer to them.

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      The tech resistance slowly faded away with the first smartphones released after the iPhone I would say and really took off after the release of the iPhone 3GS. Think back to the boomers who complained about young people staring at their phones all day, now they do that themselves.

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      In 2006, cell phones were cool, smart phones like PalmOS and Blackberry devices existed but they were for nerds and/or businessmen who just could not wait to get back to the office to send an email. iPods were huge, it was the glory days of DVD, youtube launched that year, Facebook is where the cool kids were, you didn’t need an invitation to get a Gmail account anymore. You could buy more than just books on Amazon now. It was…possible to say things were getting better. It was easy to see a future of increasing convenience and capability.

      Looking back I’m not sure where the tipping point was.

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        I think the tipping point was in the early 2010s when all of a sudden everyone and everything hitched their wagons to Facebook. Facebook as SSO, Facebook messenger instead of email or SMS, Facebook marketplace dethroning Craig’s List, etc. Once people from elderly relatives to local business centralized all of their online identity into Facebook, it was over. To this day, Facebook is still the only way to see info for community events and small businesses (and instagram is the platform Facebook used to sequester musicians and artists).

        It didn’t have to be Facebook, of course, but there needed to be a networked service that people trusted enough to give it every thing. Remember check-ins? People would post their location at restaurants, jobs, theaters, and shops. Public profiles that listed jobs, homes, family members and relationships, pets, children’s photos, and hobbies all under real names (I remember when Facebook started the purge of pseudonyms and aliases).

        I deleted my Facebook account over a decade ago and people panicked and warned me that it was a bad idea. The craziest thing someone said to me was that it would make me un-hire-able since there’d be nothing for people to snoop to see if I was a good fit. The only “bad” thing that happened is that I lost contact with some old acquaintances, but that’s just life.

        Regardless of all the other tech stuff in the past 20 years, I think that convincing people that it was okay to let a company like Facebook exist will the explicit goal to transparently harvest personal data was what opened the floodgates. Facebook (and other social media) demonstrated that people will willingly exchange privacy for digital errata. Once governments and corporations saw that, the future wrote itself.