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    I’m all in for Trump randomly deporting immigrant citizens, sending a mob at the capitol, breaking the lives of millions of the minorities and the poorest, being best friend with a pedophile, insulting our allies and threatening annexion of other coutries, but crashing The Market??? That’s not ok. He’s suppose to help ME make money by exploiting others, if I have to lose money it’s not fair!! ------- What a stupid broken evil country.

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        That’s the conservative MO, in my experience. Don’t care until it personally affects them. That’s why they’ll beat their chests about the sanctity of marriage, but get divorced. Or talk about protecting life, until their mistress needs an abortion.

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        so many people literally either have no clue about what his actual policies are, are have been so indoctrinated by our shitty schooling that their view of the world is incredibly warped

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        I mean true but also even people who have a shred of empathy don’t always show it until they get a firsthand story. Partially human nature, but yes mostly dog shit moral philosophy giving them an excuse to not care about others.

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        Sure, but a mindset change has to start somewhere. A wild thought, but maybe they’ll invest time, if only a little, in the other side and slowly but surely realize how screwed up they used to think?

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      Yeah, this guy’s not redeemed. The last and worst thing a MAGAt can do is take of their fucking red hat and put on a blue one like nothing they did happened.

      Fuck that. Carve “MAGA” into this douche’s forehead and then he can rejoin sane society.

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          Because the problem isn’t gone. Their opinions haven’t changed, they are just finally seeing personal impact from them. These people are going to fall for the same stupid shit another Trumpalike touts in 2032. They need intensive reeducation, not to be welcomed and treated like nothing happened.

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            They need intensive reeducation

            That’s not going to happen.

            Maybe this gatekeeping is why Trump won in the first place. The right approach, IMO, is to meet people where they are and convince them to join your side based on policies they support.

            Harris should have been railing against tariffs, throwing Biden under the bus because he, too, continued and expanded tariffs. She should have explained the consequences for tariffs and why free trade is good for everyone. Conservatives like the idea of fewer restrictions, so appeal to that.

            But no, she muttered something about “price gouging” with no real plan to fix it. She said she’d largely keep doing what Biden did, when people obviously wanted change. She didn’t even try to meet those concerns, her campaign was basically, “I’m not Trump,” which almost worked until she made it clear that she’s basically just Biden 2.0, but from a different demographic.

            Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Court people based on common ground instead of purity tests.

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      He’s not just friends with a pedo, court docs confirm he himself is a pedo.

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        It is no issue tho. From spending enough time on americanized internet i have come to the conclusion that everyone in the U.S. is more or less secretly a pedophile.

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      “Numerous impeachments? That’s fine.
      Convicted of numerous felonies? No that’s fine, lol.
      Adjudicated rapist? That’s fine as well, she was probably asking for it, women amirite!!.
      Six bankruptcies and multiple failed businesses, you say? Yeah that’s also fine because it was the other people and not him.
      Proven record of scams, even on charities? No, that’s just good business.”

      “Wait, he’s messing with my money now? This is intolerable, this is disgusting. How unfair, oh woe is me!!!”

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      to be fair i think this is pretty par for the course for people in general. not caring until things affect you directly.

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      Yes, but it still doesn’t explain why they vote GOP. Dems have an economic record of faster growth, lower unemployment, better stock market performance etc, and still they vote GOP.

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        From a non-us perspective, I would tend to call it the Fox Effect. Capitalist brainwashing of the under-educated, who lack the basic capacities of intellectual self-defense. When you control all the media you can make people believe that a black president asking for dijon mustard on a burger is a big deal, while a rich white president being a convicted rapist and best friend with the most notorious pedophile of the past 50 years is anecdotal, or fake, or a witch hunt, or “look, the woke are transitioning your kids”. Americans have been brainwashed to believe they the strongest, toughest, smartest people and that it’s practically in their genetic so they dont need to educate themselves. Hopefuly to good thing of pedo-don being president is that it will lead to the downfall of the US.

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      You’re just now realizing people are selfish assholes? 2016 wasn’t proof enough somehow?

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    It’s too late. Can’t trust him again.

    If only there were signs before hand. 🙄

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        I had this exact conversation with my MIL just yesterday. She voted for him, and she hit me with “This is so unexpected”. I told her no, no it wasn’t, everyone who was paying attention saw this coming a mile away, nothing could be more predictable.

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            She is an immigrant and not particularly well informed politically. I went on to explain the predictable cycle of Republican presidents leading to market crashes which the wealthy use to buy up assets for cheap, and indicated to Project 2025 which was published well in advance of the election. She seemed to respond as if I had given her valid information that she lacked before (which wasn’t really the case, we’d talked about this well before November). But she didn’t really have any pushback or response, she mostly seemed quiet and contemplative.

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    What drives me insane about these “I can’t trust Trump anymore” assholes of today is how much they didn’t give a shit about all the racist, vile, destructive things Trump did in his first term.

    This wasn’t a light switch. They just been living with their eyes closed this whole time and now they’re complaining.

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      It’s all bullshit

      He lost people a bunch of money last time too, and later it was rationalized. People are pissed now, but they were already trump voters. Critical thinking was never their strong suit.

      So who knows what they’ll be thinking the next time they vote.

      It’s why we need to give people something to vote for, not just hope they vote against trump.

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      Yep. Also they watched how he handled COVID and had no issues with it. Like he was screaming every day then “never fucking trust me again!” And none of them listened

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      Exactly. It’s insane that, these morons somehow always forget that it’s already Trump’s second term - and even in his first he was a terrible president who only enriched himself and his billionaire patrons. And his criminal history … it boggles my mind why these people don’t want to understand that there could hardly be a more unsuitable person for the presidency.

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    Looking at the front page of Fox News, those people don’t care. They just want to be fed lies and told losing money is good for the country.

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          Wow seeing the headlines all in a grid like that is upsetting. Really highlights the way that different sources drip feed similar stories, or even omit them.

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            It really is eye opening. Major news events are just not being covered, at all, by the right.

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        Seriously, I always want to know what the other side is saying but I hate to give those sites any traffic

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          It’s one of the few sources that I’ve blocked on my google news feed. I just can’t, even just reading the headlines would just ruin my day.

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      It’s a weird world we live in now, because we have no way to prove they aren’t all Russian bots when you see a wall of support for all the worst things happening. They’re always so hateful too, it’s never about fiscal anything, it’s always about who we’re “getting” this time.

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    Lmao none of them will remember that 3 years from now when Trump or his successor run on a platform of “DEMOCRATS HAVE LOOSED THE SEWER MUTANTS ON US, WE NEVER HAD SEWER MUTANTS BEFORE SOROS FINANCED THEM. I BOLTED DOWN ALL THE MANHOLES IN NEW YORK. WHAT HAS OBAMA EVER DONE AGAINST SEWER MUTANTS?”

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    But also, fuck these people. Didn’t matter that innocent citizens with no charges are getting black bagged and tossed in cells. Didn’t matter families were getting ripped apart and deported. Didn’t matter that the bigotry against trans people has ramped up to being codified in congressional fucking rules levels. No it took an economic nightmare scenario personally affecting the livelihoods of these people for them to wake up AT ALL. Like fine, welcome to the fucking real world. You’re still a piece of shit in my eyes now start making better fucking choices, moron.

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      100%. The world has just done nothing but coddle these morons and their feelings for so long it’s about time we start telling them that they’re not getting a gold star for doing the bare minimum after the damage has already been done.

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      Well most of that stuff was happening under genocide joe too. And kamalacaust promised to continue. Didn’t matter to the libs. They attack people for pointing this out.

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    Yet for some reason they will never lose enough support to be ousted.

    We all know what it’s going to take to remove them.

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    The fact that they are still good friends with someone that actively claims(/claimed) to have supported Trump is damning for that tweetist.

    And what am I supposed to take away from this? Cool, they’re fine with racism and sexism but the economy is sancrosanct. Who is this appealing to/performing for?

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      One of the pillars that the republicans keep claiming is that they will sell everyone out for the sake of businesses, and therefore, obviously, they will make the numbers go up better than those democrats that will sap money out of the economy to pay for useless stuff like basic human needs to those that need it.

      Now you have a republican president who has:

      • Not cut any taxes
      • Imposed way more taxes
      • Tanked the markets
      • Tanked so many government benefits

      It was already provably false (going back 30 years, the only prolonged ‘numbers go down’ have been both of Bush Jr’s terms and Trump’s second term), the best republican term was Trump’s first and it’s no better than any democrat term for the past 30 years.

      So there are some people who are either fine with the racism and sexism (or don’t believe/in denial about that as made up) for the sake of better personal financial fortune, and democrats have never convinced those folks that republicans actually don’t have any track record to support that superstition. Trump has at least proven that he isn’t good, and worse he is allowed to unilaterally act by a broader party that is afraid to conflict him.

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      Because most left-ish people are capable of some level of critical thinking. Having an R next to your game at the ballot guarantees a large level of support.

      • Biden didn’t overhaul the government for the sake of self enrichment within fifty days. Trump did. It is entirely unreasonable for a politician, let alone a president, to visibly steal from their constituents using a platform built for stealing from fans while still maintaining this level of support, honeymoon phase or not. This should be apples to knives, not apples to apples.

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    I mean, what did anyone expect from idiot who bankrupted a casino? Fucking casino of all things which is literal money printing machine.

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      As someone who grew up nearby his casinos… I always thought Trump was a loser even as a kid. I would see his abandoned casinos and my mom would be like, “This moron couldn’t even profit from a casino.” Dude was a joke to everybody with a clue. Similar to now…