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Did anyone mention how the 1930 tariffs sparked a wave of retaliatory tariffs by other nations, greatly reducing international trade, pushing a natural resources poor Japan to conclude that in order to survive it needed an empire, so it invaded other countries, committing such atrocities that even Nazi Germany was like “whoa dude, chill”, which lead to their participation in WWII, Pearl Harbor and the deployment of nuclear bombs? No?
That’s quite the oversimplification, and I approve.
Haha yeah, but I could do even better:
Tariffs bad because history
Let me help!
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Japan was expanding long before 1930’s. Korea, Mongolia, and parts of China were already under Japan long before 1930.
Yeah that comment is wildly ignorant of Japan’s actions and aspirations pre1930. Fuck Trump and these tariffs, mind you.
The whole plan was to move production back to the US. The thing though is, that you can’t make Americans sit and sew Jeans that sell sell for $15 or assemble electronics for $6/hr
Maybe you could 100 years ago, but there is s a reason why we trade across the world and its not because we are kind. It is because it makes companies more money.
This will be mostly messy for the US. The rest of the world now has tarrifs on the US. But US now has tarrifs on the whole world. Any other country can look into expanding in new markets now, but the US has shut all its doors
Yeah we can’t make everything.
Not only do most of those low level factory jobs suck we simply don’t have the workers, we’re at less than 5% unemployment.
Nor does the US need to make everything.
The US is a service economy. It makes money through capital and intellectual property. Being the first to innovate means also having the opportunity to wedge yourself as a permanent middle man and charge people around the world to pass go.
Think Uber eats for example. If I order food in Toronto from a Toronto based restaurant fulfilled by a courier in Toronto, 30% of my payment is going to them in silicon valley for managing that order.
Similarly, when you purchase an app on Google or Apple store, they are collecting 30%.
If I am in Norway purchasing a game on Steam from a Norwegian developer, you guessed it, 30% is going to Steam.
This is America’s strength now, not making t shirts, shoes or cars entirely domesticallty.
Most of the world was ok with paying the markup for convenience.
Since the US have gone rogue, many are calling for an end for respect to US intellectual property. Perhaps each country should have its own Uber, app store etc so that the cut can stay within our borders.
One case: Uber was charging 30% commission for managing rickshaw rides in India (a country with relatively low purchasing power per capita).
It was only after domestic options like Rapido or Namma Yatri undercut them that they moved to a subscription based model, charging drivers 20 to 40 rupees daily, rather than taking an exorbitant commission of 30% per ride. To India’s credit, it has a robust IT sector located in one of its major cities (Bangalore) which helps promote competition in this case.
Oh they know that Americans won’t work at factories. That’s not their goal.
They want to bring manufacturing back the the US, it just won’t be humans doing the manufacturing, it will be robots.
There is a reason why this is not the case already. It’s more expensive.
Not if you have prison labor. Then robots are less needed just jail more peeps and send em to the new gulags.
If you jail the robots then you don’t have to pay them either.
Do you want skynet? Because that’s how you get skynet.
There’s in general no way this can work long-term. When nations cooperate, they both benefit. If you’re the only nation not cooperating with everyone else, then everyone else will surpass you until you’re North Korea levels of yesteryear.
Looking at this through the lens of “how can the oligarchs benefit”, it makes complete sense - Strip all government assistance, remove social nets, add tariffs that will basically kill most small businesses (think also farms, mom and pop shops, etc). Lead to depression, billionaires swoop in and buy up land/homes/business for pennies on the dollar (or just basically crush small businesses to get them out of the way). One couldn’t design a better way to fuck over everyone and enrich the oligarchs
Yup, a fire sale for oligarchs.
This is what happens when a populace isn’t properly educated.
Prepare for this country to be on a downward slope for the rest of our lives. That’s the most likely future for us.
They don’t care what it does to people, it makes some rich people richer like the alcohol prohibition
Yeah but THEY didn’t have the TECHNOLOGY we do to be able to RAMP UP our DOMESTIC PRODUCTION! So it’s a GOOD THING that President Elon Musk and First Lady Donald Trump HAVENT been Cutting US Investing and Production!
Wait. I just realized something. One of the significant reasons humans are such amazing creatures compared to the other species is our generational knowledge we can pass down. But we have a saturation point. We need consciousness information downloading. Not immortality. But a way to download Wikipedia to our brains. That’s the next step.
Agreed. It’s so tiring actually navigating Wikipedia. I just want a megacorp to select the best bits and inject them directly into my brain when they see fit!
The solution to that historically has been urbanization, which allowed people to become specialists in a chosen field. They get to absorb all the knowledge in a specific field of expertise, and then a select few are smart enough to push it further.
Unfortunately we haven’t really managed to apply this to politics yet, because those who are specialists in getting elected aren’t necessarily specialists in governing either. Nor are they likely good at governing everything, maybe just a specific part. But picking who is suitable enough is not done by specialists but by the general public, which is both democracy’s strength and weakness.
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if anyone has any questions about getting out of the country, ask away.
I’m a long-term traveler.
Any advice on how to move all my shit without it getting stolen?
I’ve got a collection of a shit load of Legos from childhood that hold a lot of sentimental value, but it’s easily worth a shit load of money. In particular I’d be looking to move to Costa Rica. My fiance is from there, but she said stuff like that would be likely to get stolen by customs.
people usually ship their belongings by sea or air(ocean freight is cheaper and slower, but I’m not sure by how much with Costa Rica being so near) with a company like DHL, I’ve used them and found them to be a reliable international shipping company, FedEx and UPS are also options.
I wouldn’t worry about customs taking your stuff, especially if you have insurance or tracking or anything like that on the ticket, and especially with a wealthier country like Costa Rica where paper trails are more important.
I’ve actually never heard of customs taking anything legal in real life from anyone who’s shipped belongings overseas(my friend’s yak jerky got confiscated because it’s illegal to import a lot of international meat products into the US) so I personally don’t believe customs pocketing things is very common.
Legos aren’t apparently valuable on their face and with the paper trail of receipts/documents I wouldn’t think you have to worry about anything getting lifted by customs. plus, if you add some fragile notices and insurance on there the agents responsible for transporting the packages will be a lot more careful, for sure.
What countries do you recommend that have the easiest visa requirements?
Cyprus sells passports, so if you have the money you can instantly become an EU citizen
What kinda money we talking here?
Like a lot. Like €300,000. Which is cheap compared to other countrys’ golden visas tbf
That is a lot but not out of reach for an upper middle class family, interesting.
Not out of reach but will hurt like hell to just give away 300k for just a passport.
I’ve read in some unsubstantiated comments that the state of the authorities of Hungary is so fucked up, they barely check if you can bribe a family tree researcher to make up some BS that your grandparents were Hungarian.
Pretend they were 1956 refugees that never had papers in the US, find some people who actually got lost in 1956 that have birth certs in Hungary - like maybe killed by the Soviets - learn some elementary Hungarian, be white, and boom, EU citizenship.
I take no responsibility for this harebrained idea and reiterate that this is just some ridiculous thing I read back on Reddit way back when.
Hungary itself is leaning quite heavily into an authoritarian vibe these days. If one were to go this route, I’d recommend taking advantage of your new EU-citizen status and find permanent residence in a country with stronger democratic traditions.
Authoritarian
This just means democratic results where CIA failed. Europe warmongering despots takes authoritarian views on diminishing Hungary. Hungary allows “same sex registered partnerships”. “Needing” a pride parade is supremacism. Trying for citizenship in “CIA democratic beacon EU” will get you drafted into mobile infantry to go be cannon fodder invading Russia, or selecting a nuclear strike target.
This just means democratic results where CIA failed.
This is some tankie bullshit lol
It must be so exhausting for them to have to downvote every single reply to their comments.
What other alternative is there? Admit that your worldview is skewed by all kinds of propaganda to the point you’re detached from objective reality as desired by your party?
That’s just crazy talk. Just like the idea that words have meanings and you can’t just use them however you choose to devalue the meaning behind them.
Thanks for the insight, stacy! By the way, why are you still posting on a nazi platform? Oh for internet points? Cool, cool.
Edit: Damn, there’s more nazis on Lemmy than I thought.
