People do more for their adult dogs than the zoo did for this baby

The fact of the matter is that you or I don’t really have any information what the zoo did for this baby or did not. Most everything in this topic is pure speculation and has to do with more how people see the world through their eyes than any evidence or fact. The only piece of evidence we have is what the vet experts have said. Anything else is a huge “maybe”.

One experts opinion is that they couldn’t rule it out

That is a much stronger statement that, “fireworks was probably not the cause of this”. They could also have just gone with “stress due to loss of the mother” easily and no one would really think twice about it. But they did choose to make this statement. Experienced vet surgeons/nurses etc who have had the opportunity to experience how animals behave under these conditions many many times. Also mind you this one way the news has been reported, I have seen multiple instance where the wording is more stronger such as:

"Very sadly, she choked on her vomit on Bonfire Night and our vets believe this was probably a reaction to fireworks,” said Ben Supple, RZSS’s deputy chief executive. Roxie had access to her den but the frightening noises seem to have been too much for her. We are also concerned that fireworks cause stress to other animals in the zoo.”

I have seen remarks in this topic ranging from “their vets are just the zookepers” to “animals don’t vomit because of fireworks”. It is just ridiculous. Even these vet experts have not made their statements in such certainty as the people in this topic.

Nobody gave the AI a time limit.

“our community has been played”…

more like neural networks are maybe like your brain? dunno not an expert, just a feeling

Goodbye Ukraine who will likely be coerced to a hugely Russia benefiting peace deal. well at least the war will end? trying to be positive…

I always imagine it more like neural networks. simply based on a lot of training and experience. As an example think of times when you step onto a non moving escalator. Your mind definitely knows its not moving but you still can’t defeat the trained expectation of jerk.

maybe it could be biology major squashing a bug extremely unhappy cs major squashing a bug extremely happy

the guy endorses raw milk on a time when non infectious avian flu viral particles are found in pasteurised supermarket milk. he is the walking embodiment of disaster.

They probably got Trump’s blessing on this one

this is already happening in places like Chili where big avocado farmers are hoarding water while locals suffer from water shortage and we eat our avocados…

he thinks he is daddy’s special boy. he also probably has the mindset “I made Trump win with money so everyone has to listen to me”. Well he is about to find out just how annoying people with his personality type are.

have they actually tested this against headwinds/cross-winds? I feel like nowadays everyone with a genius idea rolls out a product to the market without even testing it themselves or bothering to get some knowledge on the field.

yes for him the USA is just a high return investment and livelihoods of the US citizens are just expandibles.

right and random strangers on the internet are completely unbiased and generally reasonable? It does not give one enough reason to completely disregard experts’opinions. vets are saying that it probably is a contributing factor whereas people in this thread are claiming that it is the zoo who is trying to cover up for bad conditions and negligence in the zoo. tell me which one sounds more reasonable?

yea with a bunch of veterinary surgeons, nurses and zoology professors at their service, I am sure they were still not able to come up with a fake reason that your keen eyes were not able to spot immediately.

Check under the vet team here:

https://www.rzss.org.uk/conservation/meet-the-team

Professors, veterinary surgeons, veterinary nurses etc. Edinburgh zoo is not just your run of the mill local village zoo. So sorry buddy, I am sure you will understand if I still trust the word of these people on the matter and not you, a random person with distaste against zoos (not a big fan either to be honest). I mean this is not just any field as well, this is zoology. People usually get into it because they love animals and such. It is not completely impossible for someone in this field to lie to cover up but now it is just your personal distaste against zoos and human kind vs several very well trained people on the field… As I said, I am not a big fan of zoos either and somewhat undecided about conservatories (which is what “Edinburgh Zoo” actually is) but that does not make people working there terrible lying scum bags.

Maybe they should have called some vet experts to investigate. Oh wait that is exactly what they did but I am sure people on the internets know more about animals. Not a big fan of zoos but people who armchair are magnitudes worse.

Even just bringing it an age limit is a good start. loads of kids buy tons of these fireworks after guy Fawkes and diwali because they are cheaper so it is more like two weeks of unending fireworks rather than two nights.

Since vet experts claim that they do.

"Veterinary experts at the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland announced on Wednesday that a 3-month-old panda named Roxie died “due to stress caused by fireworks being let off across the city centre.”

instead of investigating the conditions

Yea they should have sent some vet experts to investigate. Oh wait…

"Veterinary experts at the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland announced on Wednesday that a 3-month-old panda named Roxie died “due to stress caused by fireworks being let off across the city centre.”

Ofcourse they could always just be there to burry evidence to further their holy crusade against fireworks!