• marius@feddit.orgEnglish
    1201·
    14 天前

    He could tattoo “NAZI” on his forehead and some people will tell you that’s actually “IZVN” upside down

    • Aa!@lemmy.worldEnglish
      95·
      14 天前

      “Well what about that tattoo on your chest? Doesn’t it say ‘Die Bart, die’?”

      “No! That’s German for 'The Bart. The.”

          • Aa!@lemmy.worldEnglish
            28·
            14 天前

            It’s a reference from The Simpsons. Sarcasm is a good explanation, though it’s probably more accurately satire

            • atomicorange@lemmy.worldEnglish
              5·
              14 天前

              I’d call it irony. Satire is usually a more pointed critique- it would be referencing a specific situation or trope or person it wanted to lambast. So maybe a bit of satire about the US prison system? Honestly I don’t think they were trying to go there though.

              • Klear@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                2·
                14 天前

                The word irony has too much confusion attached to it nowadays, in part thanks to Alanis Morissette. I would say it was meant tongue in cheek.

          • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            14 天前

            As mentioned elsewhere it’s a line from a TV show. I’m not going to try to determine what type of humor it is, but the joke is that an incredibly charismatic psychopath has been trying to kill Bart, the local troublemaking kid. The psycho is claiming it’s all a misunderstanding and the kid points to him having a tattoo that says “die bart die”, which is explained as being German for “the bart the” (and yes part of the joke is likely that the German is incorrect). The cops, who the show routinely depicts as incredibly stupid, believe it and add the line “nobody who speaks German could be evil” which is meant to be a further joke about how stupid these cops are.

          • _____@lemm.eeEnglish
            27·
            14 天前

            for the longest time I thought that line had way more to it, but nope, that’s it. it’s just a reference to Hitler.

            I only thought there was more to it because classic Simpsons always had fantastic writing with multiple underlying references.

            • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
              61·
              14 天前

              Sometimes a pie in the face gag is just a pie in the face gag.

              But yeah, the joke is that people in charge of the prison system are so clueless on the nature of evil that they cannot differentiate between good and bad behavior.

    • BradleyUffner@lemmy.worldEnglish
      30·
      14 天前

      I’ve seen several people try to defend it by saying that the Nazi salute doesn’t start with your hand over your heart… Well this gif really clears things up.

      • jaschen@lemm.eeEnglish
        26·
        14 天前

        I have a Jewish friend that is defending it saying that his arms were sideways and the Nazi salute is in front. I sent him this and he said… Welp, I guess it’s time to move.

      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        14 天前

        Also, while I"m no physiotherapist, it looks like musk’s shoulder mobility is hindered a bit. Maybe its the suit/shoulderpads, maybe he’s just really out of shape. Which is to say that he knew that he had to get his hand up over his head to get the gesture right. It’s significantly more effort than you’d do by accident.

        • TrippaSnippa@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          13 天前

          It’s probably just the suit jacket, those things do restrict your arm’s vertical range of movement.

    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      14 天前

      To the person that made this gif: thank you for your service. You had to pour over far more footage of this nonsense than anybody should ever have to.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
      122·
      14 天前

      Playing devil’s advocate, it appears Hitler doesn’t usually start with an open palm on his heart, but one perpendicular to his chest.

      But sometimes he just goes straight from arms down to the salute. There’s some variability.

      Anyway, this is splitting hairs to an obscene degree. You have to contort your brain to not see this as a Nazi salute, ignoring the context or not, and in any other time a public figure would have at least apologized for doing this if they weren’t impeached/dismissed/fired.

  • Iceman@lemmy.worldEnglish
    49·
    14 天前

    What if you do it outside of the Israeli embassy as your heart goes out to the hostages?

  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.eeEnglish
    421·
    14 天前

    Well, at least wait until it’s part of the law requiring all businesses to use it as formal greetings.

  • harmsy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    391·
    14 天前

    If it honks like a goose and it steps like a goose, there’s not too many things it could be.

      • harmsy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        14 天前

        You might be onto something. The capricious assholery of geese is well-known, and he’s also got that bit spot on.

  • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    14 天前

    I wonder if a bunch of pro palestianian protestors started “giving their hearts” to the people of Israel, if suddenly it would have a different meaning.

  • Hegar@fedia.io
    19·
    15 天前

    Arguing whether or not the sky is in fact blue is a deliberate distraction.

  • WatDabney@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    5845·
    15 天前

    Musk is a troll.

    Don’t feed the troll.

    Every bit of energy and attention expended on the sieg heil is a bit of energy and attention that’s NOT being expended on any of the actions being taken and policies being enacted by Trump and the oligarchs right this moment for the direct and explicit purpose of destroying liberty and democracy in the US.

    The sieg heil is performative. It’s a symbol. In and of itself, it causes no direct harm.

    However, a terrifying number of the actions that Trump is actually taking - directives he’s issuing and policies he’s implementing -are causing and will cause direct and measurable harm.

    They need to be the focus, and the sieg heil is a distraction from them.

    And that’s not an accident. Musk is a troll.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1461·
      15 天前

      Musk is running the U.S. government. Dismissing someone that dangerous as just a troll is a mistake.

      • rockSlayer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        253·
        15 天前

        He definitely shouldn’t be dismissed and people are right to be absolutely pissed at the open nazism, but also the sieg heil is an extremely obvious distraction.

        • PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.worldEnglish
          511·
          14 天前

          And the collective idiots here are happy to be distracted. I’ve seen at least 15 - 20 posts on All today about this. Ridiculous.

          • frostysauce@lemmy.worldEnglish
            102·
            14 天前

            And yet here you are commenting on it. So what does that make you along with everyone else happy to distract themselves with it?

            (In case you’re having trouble collecting those dots: an idiot as well.)

      • WatDabney@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        2417·
        15 天前

        There’s a world of difference between “a troll” and “just a troll.” I expect you know that.

        And you’ve evaded my point, so I’ll repeat it, broken down into bite-sized pieces:

        The sieg heil didn’t cause direct and measurable harm in and of itself.

        Meanwhile, there are many things that this administration is actively doing right this moment that are causing and will cause direct and measurable harm.

        Every single bit of energy and attention spent on the sieg heil is energy and attention NOT spent on them.

        That’s not an accident.

    • el_bhm@lemm.eeEnglish
      471·
      14 天前

      The sieg heil is performative. It’s a symbol. In and of itself, it causes no direct harm.

      It enables and empowers nazis. A group that is known to take violent action when they feel they can.

      And yes. It is a performance. To draw attention away from the meme coin. A giant grift on people and a way to bribe the grifters.

      • bobs_monkey@lemm.eeEnglish
        16·
        14 天前

        It enables and empowers nazis. A group that is known to take violent action when feeling they can.

        And as a bonus, all of those little nazi muffins that were either in jail or otherwise hampered by their earned felony are now free to go bananas, including acquiring arms stockpiles.

        Numerous intelligence reports had found that those far right leaders were somewhat stifled by the J6 implications, and their organizations driven somewhat underground. Orange Caesar just took the lid off.

    • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      15·
      14 天前

      It depends how you use the moment. I like Die Zeit’s article about it (in German, paywall can be bypassed with archive websites). They use it as on opportunity to discuss the context where it was made - an extreme right political event - and expose how mainstream media has helped normalizing nazi symbology by amplifying the gaslighting.