• Korne127@lemmy.worldEnglish
    613·
    6 个月前

    Funnily, that’s not really true. Such studies showing that exist but are sponsored by… paper towel companies

    • Karjalan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      38·
      6 个月前

      Fucking dystopian late stage capitalism… Every fact is not actually a fact cause it’s sponsored by corporate interests

        • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.worldEnglish
          6·
          6 个月前

          I tell my phone to “Remove Suggestion” on that every time, but it never fucking takes and it pisses me off. Don’t capitalist twitter or god.

  • Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.mlEnglish
    551·
    6 个月前

    I particularly hate those airblade things even more than regular air dryers. I like that they’re faster and typically not as gross and warm but they are designed in a way where you feed your hand in to a narrow gap with powerful air jets in front of and behind your hands in this gap. Your hands are not a completely uniform symmetrical shape, so the jets buffet your hand around and they inevitably touch the parts of the device where the jets are located, right where everyone else has had the same thing happen. It grosses me out.

    • nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      6 个月前

      Yeah after the first two times trying to use them and my hands got blown into one of the sides i said fuck it, I’ll use my shirt if no paper towels are available.

      • Jose A Lerma@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        6 个月前

        Japan doesn’t have paper towels or air dryers in their bathrooms.

        Why?

        Because everyone carries a handkerchief to dry their hands. They even sell them at airports when you land.

        I’ve been trying to bring back the handkerchief in the States, but not as many places sell them

  • omega_x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    431·
    6 个月前

    Why are there germs on your hands right after washing them? Didn’t mythbusters already test it and concluded that they are only bad when people don’t really wash their hands.

    • Bassman1805@lemmy.worldEnglish
      38·
      6 个月前

      Yes.

      The followup question is “how many people think getting their hands wet without soap is sufficient hand-washing” and the answer is not terribly comforting.

  • daddy32@lemmy.worldEnglish
    36·
    6 个月前

    I’ll just leave this here:

    Hygiene associated with the product has been questioned in research by the University of Westminster Trade Group, London and sponsored by the paper towel industry the European Tissue Symposium

    • Kbobabob@lemmy.worldEnglish
      161·
      6 个月前

      It’s ok to be cautious, but if the data is accurate then it doesn’t matter much.

      • leverage@lemdro.idEnglish
        9·
        6 个月前

        Also, how is their research any worse than the one sponsored by Dyson, who is trying to sell overpriced hand dryers.

        Anyone who has ever seen one of these more than a few weeks old knows how disgusting they get because cleaning crews were never trained to clean them. I’m assuming that isn’t considered in Dyson’s version of the research at all. There’s one in a bathroom in my area that is covered in mold.

        • daddy32@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          6 个月前

          In both cases, it is the instance of conflict of interest and a moral hazard. Tainted and not to be trusted.

          • leverage@lemdro.idEnglish
            3·
            6 个月前

            That’s great, probably better for life happiness to just not look very closely, and ignore research like this. I doubt anyone is getting sick, even if it is certainly spraying stuff around.

            • Revan343@lemmy.caEnglish
              3·
              6 个月前

              Actual science is always good, but I’d like to see data on them with hourly vs daily vs weekly vs monthly washroom cleaning, and the same data on regular hand dryers and as well as paper towel.

              Bet the airblades are best with a quick cleaning cycle, and worst with a slow cleaning cycle (except for paper towel if the cleaning cycle is slow enough; ‘no paper towel, dry your hands on what you can’ is certainly the least best option)

  • Scary le Poo@beehaw.orgEnglish
    311·
    6 个月前

    This has been debunked btw. Fwiw, there is a huge behind the scenes fight between big towel and big airblow.

    I’m not kidding. But basically drying via air is much more hygienic in actuality.

      • filcuk@lemmy.zipEnglish
        7·
        6 个月前

        Trouble is a lot of people are gross and will do the wroom wroom to make people think they washed their hands, or just wash poorly in the first place.

  • blind3rdeye@lemm.eeEnglish
    334·
    6 个月前

    I just wish people would know how to use paper towels so that they don’t end up wasting huge piles of them for nothing. 1 sheet is enough. You don’t need 5. Do it like this:

    • After washing your hands, brush excess water off each hand using your other hand. Your hands should not be dripping wet when you reach for the paper towel.
    • Take a single paper towel. Don’t scrunch it up, and don’t just clasp the towel. Use all parts of the paper towel to deliberately wipe your hands. The paper towels are quite absorbent. They don’t need to be 100% dry to remove the water from your hands.

    The end. If you do this, your hands will not be wet. You will not need a second paper towel.

    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      18·
      6 个月前

      You missed something. You gotta fold the paper in half. The capillary action will trap more water in between the folded halves than it could unfolded.

      The Shake & Fold method. There was a Ted Talk!

      • blind3rdeye@lemm.eeEnglish
        93·
        6 个月前

        Funny joke. But yeah, the creation, distribution, and disposal are not free - even if they are created from trees. Using two sheets isn’t a big deal, but why use double what you need?

        Anyway, I’m not trying to say we need to be super-frugal with our paper towels. I’m really talking about people who just keep grabbing more and more of them until their hands are dry. I’m sure we’ve all seen bins overflowing with barely-used paper towels. We don’t need that.

  • zephorah@lemm.eeEnglish
    312·
    6 个月前

    My biggest issue is the decibel level. I can hear, for now, but the decibel level on those things makes one of my ears feel like it’s being blasted out of my skull and induces ringing.

    I use the paper because it doesn’t hurt my ear.

    Yes, I’ve seen a doctor, it simply is what it is and my only recourse for that ear is to wear ear protection. In any public restroom, apparently.

    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
      18·
      6 个月前

      My daughter is extremely noise sensitive and can’t handle the noise of those either. After a really rough 2 hour drive involving 3 gas station stops because she refused to even try to use one due to the auto-flushing toilet my wife suggested “making an app to track public bathrooms with air dryers and autoflushing toilets” and I’ve been debating if I want to start tagging every public bathroom I visit on Open Street Map with the toilet flush mechanism and existence of air dryers. And if i did so I’d probably also mark what changing table amenities are available and if there’s more/less changing table amenities in the womens’ or mens’ rooms.

      • zephorah@lemm.eeEnglish
        4·
        6 个月前

        You can buy boxes of moldable foam earplugs which can do very well for noise blocking. Individually wrapped in pairs. They carry well in a back pocket. Those work if you’re ok with the sensation of something in your ears, don’t have ear tubes, or some other contraindicated condition.

        An aesthetically pleasing pair of full muffs can also work. Sometimes kids need their environment dimmed, and the muffs can work rather well.

        • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
          2·
          6 个月前

          We actually already have hearing protection headphones for the kids, but they’re bulky and I usually don’t want to risk them getting messed up in the bathroom on a trip

          We try to balance both giving her the tools to be successful but also not having her entirely rely on the hearing protection as a crutch

    • Delzur@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
      8·
      6 个月前

      They absolutely are loud. I avoir them as much as possible even though I don’t have ear issues (yet, I gguess)