Abravnel’s pictures show two bearded men wearing sunglasses and three other men wearing face coverings on board the boat. One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company. Lindell, who is a well-known Trump supporter, recently hit back against claims that his product pricing was inadvertently linked to neo-Nazi propaganda.
How is it that Trump followers are pro Nazis and pro Israel at the same time? Or is it because Israel is starting to follow Nazis’ footsteps?
They only support Israel because they hate Muslims more.
And because the religious sect believes they need the Jews to bring Armageddon/the rapture.
Conservatives aren’t actually Christian, you realize? It’s all virtue signaling to disguise being vile snakes out to enrich themselves and their families, while actively fucking over the rest of the country/world to get there.
Dont fall into the rhetoric, those arguments are a distraction.
You’re mistaken. While I would agree that most conservative politicians, pundits, and mouthpieces are con artists who don’t actually believe most of the religious bullshit they pander, the average conservative voter does trend significantly more religious. This is true practically everywhere in the world. Religion is the primary source of conservative beliefs and ideology.
Not all conservatives are the same. I know plenty of the staunchly religious type. Two things can be true at the same time.
Those republicans use identity politics and religion to control the votes of evangelical/fundamentalist christians.
The xtian nationalists/zionists would declare they are the ONLY xtians. It’s not a distraction at all; their goofy bullshit about their chosen version of the various Abrahamic cults is something they absolutely believe in and it’s dragging down all of humanity.
Dumbasses missed the point of your post. You are absolutely right. Their religiosity is performative to mask the fact that they are just shit human beings.
It’s sad you’re being downvoted by “Reddit Atheist” types
Sorry, point taken. I definitely was directing my “Conservatives” comment specifically at conservatives in the government.
Obviously, my comment was. HUGE blanket generalization, which is never a great stance.
“The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, but we’ll tolerate them while they kill the right people.”
So at the end of the day it’s Dominionism amd The Book of Revalations. It’s the idea that once the Jews take control of the holy land the apocalyptic prophesies in the Book of Revelations will be set into motion and God will come down from heaven and separate the 144,000 good holy people from the sinners who didn’t belive in God and take them into heaven, probably rapture style.
Being Pro Israel and a conservative isn’t really about caring about the history of prejudice the Jewish people have faced throughout much of history, it’s about using the Jewish people as a pawn in fulfilling a ~2000 year old prophesy.
I’m encouraged that this is becoming more well known
Watch Praying for Armageddon; I’ve seen other docs that cover this as well, but this is a fairly recent one.
They’re different subgroups
there is that, but I think also many republicans have a weird cognitive dissonance where they’re antisemitic in general, but still very pro-israel/zionist because of fundamental christianity, and/or they are even more islamaphobic than antisemitic.
Honestly I could see some of them being stupid enough to think Isreal is majority Christian. Like they’d be “ethnically Jewish” but Christian religion.
I think that they are pro-Israel because they want all the American Jews to move there to rid them of “the problem” of American Jews. Think of them like national segregationists - they don’t mind Jewish people existing as long as they are “over there”. And it’s also in Israel’s interest to project themselves as the only place in the world where Jews can be safe.
It’s a place created as a home for jews pretty much by antisemites, with the main idea being “we’re okay with jews but only if they’re not in our country”.
There’s a lot of fascinating history about the creation of Israel by antisemites that you can find, but the gist is that zionism and antisemitism often go hand in hand, and it seems this has not really changed.
Some of it is rooted in xtian zionism, and it’s not because they have any special regard for Jews other than as pawns for their dopey eschatological notions. They just think the Jews have to be in Israel to fulfill prophecies that involve a magical Jewish carpenter coming back (and killing most of the Jews, by the way).
They’re both far-right ideologically, and it turns out the idea of “never again” to Zionists means "Never again to us"
…and the best way they believe to make sure of this, is by genociding other peoples.
Nazis love the idea of a single state for each group of people. They love it as a destination for deportations fulfilling their short-term bigoted plans.
Of course their long-term bigoted plans are invasion, stealing resources, and mass murder.
It’s because Israel is a genocidal settler-colonial apartheid state set up by the European and North American powers to colonize the middle east.
It has to do with what they believe is predicted in Revelations, which is to say in order to bring about the Second coming they need a mountain of dead Jews. Best way to ensure that outcome is to vehemently support Israel as their genocidal wars spiral out of control. That’s why Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, it’s symbolic to the Christian Nationalists
The actual mid-20th century German Nazis wanted to create an Israel, although they intended on it being in a different place. It was basically their way to “justify” deporting every Jew
Well in some cases that’s complicated. Dominionists will support anyone that either will bring in the end times or the destruction of Israel because that’s part of their end time beliefs. They also support anyone that claims to be Christian. Supporting Israel until it is destroyed is all part of their convoluted fantasy life.
The cynical support for Israel is something that runs very, very deep with the xtian nationalists. There have been various documentaries that touch on this, but one of the more recent ones I’ve seen (and remember the name of) is: “Praying for Armageddon”.
Taking care of one enemy first and then the other. Belief in religious stuff is fungible, so it doesn’t count for shit
Edit and white people who support Nazism are in for a rude awakening when their own group starts defining “good white” vs “bad white”. Ask the Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, etc.
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