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Yeah, CEO of Exxon Grandma.
you seem oddly human for a bot
Ops not a bot
Botly bot bottin
please tell me you have evidence for this person being a bot besides them saying that some individuals have more influence over large scale climate change than others
They have a bot symbol next to their name. But anyone can turn that on in their settings.
my bad, the indicator is not nearly as obvious on desktop
ohhhh
i’m as anti-capitalist as the next lemming, they just have the words BOT next to their instance
Letting oil barons, war mongers, and other billionaire scum off some really big hooks with that “entirely” part…
She looks like she could be an oil baronness
I’d wager Grandma is symbolic of the generation to which most of those barons, mongers, and billionaires belong.
Failure to vote to stop evil, when you have the full knowledge and capability, is the same as doing evil yourself. Anyone alive today under 100 and over 18 that has not been voting the most radical left candidates running --regardless of "electability or party-- is at least partly responsible. And yes that means you if you’ve voted dem since they gave up gore for w bush.
You’re correct in most of the world, where instant runoff is the norm. But drag thinks we should also let the Americans know that they should be voting Democrat, since they have a broken system where only votes for the two biggest parties are counted. Any American who didn’t vote for every Democrat president is almost as responsible for climate collapse as the Republicans.
Broken systems don’t get fixed from within, especially by a party that helped make it this broken.
And there hasnt been a dem that did anything at all regarding climate change since gore gave up and sold useless carbon credits.
That’s right. That’s why we need a revolution. And that’s why we pick the shark with fewer teeth until we’re organised enough to do it. You can’t fix the US electoral system by voting. Voting third party isn’t going to save the world. You need to give up on your false hope that your vote is for doing good. Your vote is for delaying the bad. You delay the bad by voting Democrat.
You don’t delay the bad. Homelessness rose faster under Obama and Biden than bush or trump. Not that the latter two were better in any meaningful way, just the facts as they are. Voting democrat does nothing, voting Republican does nothing. It will always just end up with you worse off. Sometimes, randomly, sooner, sometimes later. If it were as easy as vote Dems to slow down the bad, things wouldn’t have degraded for so many so badly that Trump was considered a good candidate to them.
If homelessness rose under Obama, why is homelessness lower in 2016 than in 2008? If homelessness didn’t rise under Trump, why is homelessness higher in 2020 than in 2016? Drag thinks somebody lied to you about these figures. Drag thinks you should re-evaluate your understanding of politics.
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You extracted billions of years of stored energy from the ground and set it on fire over 50 years. Did you really think there weren’t any consequences?
They didn’t care. They got to live through the benefits and not have to worry about the consequences. As far as the climate is concerned, they were the party generation, and we’re the hangover generation.
I didn’t realise it was just this one grandma that did all that.
Take that, entire-capitalist-system-built-on-burning fossil-fuels-grandma.
Let’s eat grandma!
Ew, no, it’s chewy.
The San Francisco Bay Area is having the hottest and longest heat wave of the year right now. I hate it. October shouldn’t be so hot. 90% of residences in SF don’t even have AC because it was almost never necessary 20 years ago.
99 in Berkeley right now. My house was built in like 1928 and since we rent obviously there’s been no energy efficient updating of insulation or anything like that since maybe the 60s. It’s like 94 inside right now. Sitting in front of multiple fans just blowing hot air at me this is the life y’all.
Pretty much the same temps for me in the south bay.
It’s not much, but wearing a soaked t-shirt/tank and having a fan or two circulating the air with the dryer stuff outside has helped me a bit.
I didn’t check today but it was 105 yesterday a few miles inland. I saw the HVAC dude at the food truck and he was the happiest I’ve ever seen him.
The good news is that PG&Es “lower” winter rates kicked in on Oct. 1 so at least we get to fuck them back a little bit.
Also increases baseline allowance, which will be super useful since my “portable” AC has been eating so much power this month.
It was supposed to end last week too…
It’s always interesting that people are quick to talk about extreme weather changes but rarely want to address the causes. I ended up watching a video that touches on the topic. I hate Mondays.
Everyone hates Mondays and everyone loves talking about how Mondays suck! You’ll never have conversations about “fixing” Mondays though. That’s because Mondays are just a fact of life. There will always be a day you have to go to work. Moving the start day or shortening the work week doesn’t change the fact that everyone will still dislike the day their time off ends and their work hours start. You can’t “fix” Mondays.
There are also people who think other social problems are just like Mondays. Unfixable. Of course they agree it’s bad! But there’s just nothing that can be done.
Continuing with the analogy, even the honest attempts to fix Mondays are characterized as impractical, idle fantasies.
How about we don’t schedule critical meetings to start first thing Monday morning? Even if that’s the “only” time everyone can meet? And if it’s really the only time everyone has available, doesn’t that warrant questioning a bit?
Or what if we just start later on Mondays? And maybe we consider not offsetting it but working later on other days? 39-hour week? 36-hour week?
You just hit the nail on the head for things that bother me. People just throwing out ideas that “only partially” work. This isn’t just Monday’s, or climate change, but literally every fucking bit of politics. It drives me up the wall.
“Yeah but it only makes things 50% better, so I don’t support it”
So we’ll sit with 100% bad rather than 50% better because Jim in Arizona thinks we need to only have perfect solutions, and that anything that only makes things better aren’t worth investigating. Better transit, electric cars, heat pumps, hydrogen trains, gun control, sex education, free lunches? All horrible things to Jim because “they don’t solve the problem”. No, they just make it much better. Maybe we could use them while we search for the perfect solution, you know slow incremental change? No, okay then fuck you too, Jim
And while I clearly call out one side, us liberals are very guilty of this too. In fact, there’s already an example of that elsewhere in these comments.
I hate to be that guy, but it is literally already too late to reverse climate change, largely due to the attitude of people like you.
Turns out incremental change is worthless when you are on a time limit.
Temporary incremental solutions and total solutions are not mutually exclusive.
Oh no we only slowed climate change by half! How terrible. Nope better just throw up our hands and give up, thanks for your sage advice.
Drag thinks we can fix Mondays. Starting the work week wouldn’t suck if the work week weren’t so big. Women entered the workforce, so now there’s twice as many people doing work. Each person should do half as much work. That’s fair. The work week should be Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday morning. Who would hate Mondays if you know it’s all going to be over in two and a half days? It would still be hard, but you wouldn’t dread it anymore.
we’re basically hoping the massive push to batteries/Solar by both China and the U.S is successful in the next decade as they are the countries with the highest KW/h usage to lay a gameplan to get neighboring countries to do the same if it proves to be fruitful.
This will not save us, we’re still set to burn way too much fossil fuel even with fast EV/solar/electrification.
We. Need. To. Consume. Less.
But… but… what about infinite growth??
have you seen the sharp decline of fossil fuel based energy in some locations? The whole point in the necessary move for a battery storage in the long term is to minimize the requirement to boot up gas facilities after work hours, where peak power usage happens and solar is minimum.
The problem with global usage is poorer nations cannot afford to switch off dirty energy, and richer nations have a harsh post work hour usage. Lowering usage doesn’t fix the problem that there are dozens of countries that will still continue to burn dirty till some country invests in a cleaner option.
put in perspective, even though China and the US has the most power consumption, unlike GDP, it doesn’t take that many more countries after them to equate how much power they consume. So unless theres a global shutoff of power (which on its own, will have a plethora of long lasting problems if everything just shuts down), the best solution is to swap the type of energy that generates the most heat/green house gasses out.
There’s a few countries with huge hydroelectric resources, which are not applicable to most of the world. Other countries have merely seen a peak and slight decline, and based on trends it will take decades for that decline to reach the levels we need tomorrow. Demand for compute from the AI tech bubble has basically destroyed all the progress we’ve made since the pandemic.
The problem is too much consumption. Rich nations gobble up as much as they can and poorer nations are used as their mining pits and factories to feed the endless appetite for more, and as long as this continues the world is going to continue warming.
What if she voted for Jimmy Carter?
It’s 87 right now over here. It’s 10pm.
12°C at 4am.
I already pulled out the winter bed sheets because it was sub 10 a few days ago several times…But seriously, I was introduced to Canada in late October of 93. And arrived to 18"+ of snow.
287 degrees here, much warmer than expected.
It’s cold in the baltics
Barely, going to be 17°C again this week.
Because the ozone layer hole killed everyone back in the 1990s, right?
And there’s no more ice in the polar regions as of 2013, right?
You know why that is? Because we fucking did something about it
One time THE ENTIRE WORLD worked together to fix a problem so that means problems arent real
Idiot that can’t understand that ozone hole is not a problem anymore because of regulations that limited the use of ozone degrading chemicals. Also seems to have zero grasps of thermodynamics. me, shocked
Okay, how do you explain the other climate doomsday predictions that have long since come and gone in the past 30 years?
Why aren’t we all under water by now?
Which predictions? By whom, which authentic agency?
Were they peer-reviewed?
If you get diagnosed of some disease and you get cured because you took proper treatment, does it mean that you never had the disease?
The predictions about Ozone depletion had peer-reviewed research and stuff, right?
Or do you see some other motive that’d influence it?
Pretty sure polar ice caps are still shrinking.
Sorry the consequences of industry aren’t snappy enough for your short attention span, I guess?
