• Mossy Feathers (They/Them)@pawb.social
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    You know, I never thought about the fact that quidditch, a game that J.K. Rowling came up with herself is non-gendered. Yet she goes onto social media and screams about how we can’t let trans women compete against the pure and innocent cis girls. Fuck off Rowling.

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      As I understand, she’s a trans-excluding radical feminist, so within her world view that is probably coherent:

      • Ideally, sports should be non-gendered, like quidditch, because everyone has equal chances anyways.
      • Where there’s biological differences or social reasons why women have no chance when competing with men, a women’s league should exist, to give women an opportunity for publicity, prizes etc…

      Like, the above makes sense, as much as it ever will do. And factually, trans people do blur the line here and point out the fault in this arbitrary system. I can understand having a brainfart, that if only those trans people wouldn’t exist, we wouldn’t have that concept challenged.

      But trans people do exist and trans people are fucking fantastic for feminism literally everywhere else. Blurring those lines means that all those systems where cis men are privileged get put into question just as much. It’s so stupid to get hung up on sports and gendered bathrooms.

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        The reason people are getting stuck up on sports and gendered bathrooms is that it’s a wedge issue that can be weaponized to keep people fighting and distracted by culture war nonsense so the focus isn’t on the building of the Orange Reich, a dozen companies contributing to almost all the climate change, and our economic system working to keep us enslaved.

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          I think the whole hypocrisy becomes blatantly apparent, when we start talking about transmen. An US veteran transmen made a very nice post i saw many years on reddit. He has a mighty beard and asked, if anyone thinks women feel safer if he is obliged to use their bathroom.

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            A trans boy beat up a bunch of girls and felt really bad about it. He wants to compete in the boys’ wrestling league, but the transphobes won’t let him because he has a vagina.

            The future transphobes want is a man in the girls bathroom and a man beating up your daughters.

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              There’s a reason terf stands for trans exclusionary.

              They don’t really believe in some bullshit biological essentialism where trans men and cis women are categorised together. They just want all trans people gone. Excluded from society.

              Biological essentialism is just an excuse to be dicks to trans people.

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                Yep. Rowling kept up a facade for a while, but even she admits now that she doesn’t even believe trans people really exist. They thing we are confused, malicious, or deluded.

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        trans-excluding radical feminist

        I’m amused to see we can categorize idiocy. (I don’t have anything against feminism itself btw.)

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      It is gendered, in the old way. Almost every player is male, aside from Cho Chang. The reason womens leagues were created in the first place was to encourage more women to play.

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    I’m more concerned about how other roles in Quidditch are basically fighting for like 30 minutes while having no practical impact to the result of the game

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      It’s been a while since I read them, but iirc, catching the snitch ends the games and gives a shitload of points to the catcher’s team, but it doesn’t automatically win the game if the opposing team is more points ahead than the team that gets the snitch. I think i’ the books there are a few matches in which Harry can’t catch the snitch but needs to keep the other team’s catcher from catching it. Tho the amount of points the snitch gives is too high for it to occur often.

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        IIRC Joanne stated in interviews that she intentionally made the game beyond uselessly broken on purpose, to spite football fans or whatever. She is, very fundamentally to her person, a spiteful bitch.

        Further proof to the stupidity of this: in the recent video game, ya can’t even play quidditch. The feature doesn’t exist, because the game would be literally unplayable.

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          Quidditch World Cup for the xbox was actually really fun. But then, I say that as a former quadball player. Quadball players are mostly trans allies. You’re not allowed more than 4 people of the same gender on the field at once, so having enbies in your team gives a tactical advantage in terms of flexibility. They changed the name from Quidditch to Quadball after Rowling started being openly horrible to trans people.

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        The quidditch world cup in book 4 happened this way. The Irish won by points but they did not catch the snitch.

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          And there was a point in… 3, I think, where Harry was instructed to delay catching the snitch until they were at least 50 points up because they wouldn’t have enough league points or something to progress if he didn’t.

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            In the 1st movie, Oliver woods mistakenly said that if Harry catches the snitch they win I think that’s where all the confusion comes from.

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              I mean in the books the matches typically score somewhere of 5-10 goals per team until Harry catches the snitch. So it is pretty much the catcher of the snitch gets to win the game.

              Maybe we can give the benefit of the doubt that snitches used to be harder to catch before brooms became crazy fast and agile like the Nimbus and Firebolt series. It is mentioned that there were matches lasting for days, but in the book conveniently the matches never seem to last more than two hours or so.

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                  Could be, we know from 7 that they’re bespoke for every match for catch dispute reasons, the artisans could probably tweak them to match a school league. That said, I don’t believe Rowling put this much thought into it.

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          It should be noted the Irish team had the best catchers in the League, while the Bulgarian team was mediocre and carried by their seeker. And even then the Bulgarians only lost by a tiny bit.

          If Rowling’s goal was to show that other positions mattered, she chose a terrible way to do it. You’d have to be more than fifteen goals ahead in a game that often ends before a team scores fifteen goals, period.

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          And notably, the odds for this happening were extremely low, because the vast majority of the time the team that catches the snitch wins

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      Nailed! You perfectly described the weird feeling I had for more than a decade and yet couldn’t figure out what.

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        I played the game boy game quidditch and it was fine in practice as weird as the rules sound

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      The beaters try to beat the opponents off their broom, the chasers try to win points for their team, the goal keeper try to block the other team from scoring, the seeker tries to catch the snitch to end the game. The game does not end until the snitch is caught.

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          The snitch was supposed to be very hard to catch, in the books they related about a game that lasted six months(?) rotating players until the snitch got caught. So 150 points is well worth it.

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        rather, they always disappoint precisely as much as you expect them to

        “yes yes gas the jews whatever just get to the bit where you present a waterproof unified theory of everything, thus revolutionizing physics”