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      Yeah he wraps it up in a neat little package to make it seem like he’s just trying to be a benevolent journalist, but anyone with two or three functioning brain cells can read between the lines here. It’s really creepy and disturbing especially when you realize tens of millions of Americans like and believe this guy. SMH

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      Yeah, I’m not sure how else he’d have the connections to set up that interview, or why they’d reach out to him.

      It amazes me that Fox news viewers can’t connect the dots on even the simplest of lies.

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        If you connect the dots you’re more likely to see the shape, and they don’t want to see it (or admit out loud yet that they see it)

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        That would require thinking about things they’re not specifically told about, and fox “news” programming inherently selects against people with that ability. Anyone who has that ability will stop watching Fox because they’ll quickly see through the lies and stop watching.

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    The Twitter discourse is all conservatives saying "Dems HATE this but it’s JOURNALISM! The LIBERAL MEDIA refuses to interview him and theyre calling it TREASON but HE’S RIGHT! They’re hypocrites because they didn’t call it treason when X LEFTIST journalist interviewed him years ago!

    And at first I got a little swept up in it, I was thinking "yeah actually it is good to interview world leaders even if they are involved in wars, I agree with the Right on this.’

    But then I just went to check on what actual left leaning people and journalists were actually tweeting. Left leaning people were saying it was going to be bad because Tucker isn’t a journalist and he was going to make a puff piece for a dictator full of misinformation. So it wasn’t that interviews with Putin are bad, it’s that this interview will be bad.

    Journalists are saying they’ve all had interview requests in for years, they want to interview him he just refuses Western media and the question is how Tucker got the interview. If he promised softball questions or gave editorial control to Putins team or something things could get real not-journalism-y fast.

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      a puff piece for a dictator full of misinformation

      It’s not a puff piece. It’s full-on Russian propaganda tailor-made for American conservatives. The entire point is to draw even more conservative voters into the fold and convince them that the US needs to stop supporting Ukraine and move towards pulling out of NATO.

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      This is a symptom of a larger problem, which is that the bar for journalism for conservatives is literally just the big red R next to their names. Anyone who labels themselves republican can suddenly tell no lies and do no harm. That’s exactly what right wing media wants, but it has destroyed the very integrity journalism has been built on for 100+ years, and the kicker is that conservatives in this country don’t even have a clue about it.

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      This seems like a test question for journalistic ethics.
      I don’t know what the answer is but I am confident in saying that Tucker won’t “do the right thing”.

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    I can picture the whole interview already.

    Tucker: “Mr. Putin, why did you invade Ukraine?”

    Putin: “We had many very legitimate reasons. Ukrainian nazis, US imperialism, NATO expansion.”

    Tucker: “What will it take for you to stop this war? Will you guarantee peace?”

    Putin: “We are a very rational and forgiving people. We ask for nothing but the unconditional surrender of Ukraine. We will treat everyone with respect and we won’t meddle with any other country outside Ukraine. KGB spy pinky-promise.”

    Tucker: “Mr. Putin, may I suck your cock?”

    Putin: “You may.”

    *30 minutes of slurping noises*

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        A bot would be nice, but I know it will. Putin will use this interview to sow more division, undermine certainty (whatever is left of it) in an Ukrainian victory and to make himself look reasonable and willing to talk. And Tucker, by virtue of being both part of the new, autocracy-loving breed of conservative and unable to mount any serious push-back against arguments made, will fail entirely in giving proper context to anything Putin will say.

        The interview will devolve into pure propaganda for Putin, another link for delusional Russia-supporters to point to and proclaim that the West is responsible for everything and that the whole situation would be fine and dandy, if only Ukraine surrendered.

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      If you would be keeping up with the news you would’ve known that, they wanted to discuss neutrality,

      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60901024

      but then peace negations have been stalled on the ukrainan side, per request of the Brits.

      https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russia-ukrainian-paper https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-must-not-be-pressured-into-bad-peace-deal-says-uk-pm-johnson-2022-06-07/

      And after that they forbade em by law.

      https://nypost.com/2022/10/04/zelensky-signs-law-declaring-talks-with-putin-impossible/

      Hence, no Putin alone cannot stop the war. There is still too much pressure on all sides to keep the war going.

      https://www.vox.com/world/2022/12/16/23507640/dc-party-invite-military-contractors-money-ukraine-russia-war-us

      While poor guys on both sides are paying the highest price for someones wallet to be bigger.

      https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-uncovers-mass-fraud-weapons-procurement-security-service-2024-01-27/

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            I imagine roughly how America ended the Vietnam war. Russia would have to initiate some willingness to stop the war with favorable conditions, and then talks could start. That’s actually right there in the articles you linked with BoJo in them.

            It’d likely take nothing less than ceasefire without conditions, returning all occupied Ukrainian territory, including Crimea. And if Russia doesn’t like that, I’d love to see people start talking about historical borders again and we can joke about restoring the empire of Kiev.

            And then, just like the Vietnam war, they can strut around saying they didn’t lose the war, they just agreed on favorable terms.

            Edit: Actually, I may even be a bit too pessimistic here. There’s a low, but still possible chance that the tucker interview could be that message. I invite nothing less but the opportunity for Putin to publicly surrender. It would be a great thing.

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                Haha, right you are. It just goes to show how silly this “historic border” talk is as a justification for land grabs. Why would the argument exist for giving up Crimea if it also didn’t come with the other historic borders. Did Russia even offer their portion of historical lands? Rude lol.

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                  Well it does. Russia is a federation composed of states with they’re historic borders.

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        Putin alone cannot stop the war

        He can stop the war because he can command Russian army to leave Ukraine.

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          OK and what about the civilans living there?

          Do you know that they now have Russian citizensship and under Ukrainian Law will be either put in prisons or forced out?

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            This is not something that can prevent Putin from removing army from a non Russian territory. If he is not an idiot, that is.

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                You essentially argue that the brutal invader has to win his illegal invasion during which they bomb and kill countless civilians, because otherwise other civilians that support the illegal and brutal invasion might suffer some consequences?

                You can’t be for real, noone could argue this in good faith.

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                  Countless civilian is wrong as I have shown. Compared to other modern wars its pritty tame. In Gaza already the same amout of civilians got killed that im Ukraine over the 3-4 years.

                  civilians that support the illegal and brutal invasion might suffer some consequences?

                  Like who? Doctors that help the dying? So before Russia was there they had to help the local village people. After Russia came they had to tell em take a hike?

                  I don’t know how you can argue, in good faith that doctors, policemen, teachers, townhall workers, etc. Who just continued workig in they’re communities should be punshed.

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                Putin withdrawing army from Ukraine will cause chaos instead of peaceful life - a chaos that would never happen if he continues killing people in this war.

                Sure grandma, now let’s get you to your bed.

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                  OK. just look at real word examples of the US Afganistan withdrawal. How many civilans do you think got killed? How many deliberately? Rewatch the videos, there is enough videos of people fleeing from the approching army, ( wich noted, is supported by the majority of afganistan ) And dying in they’re attemnt. If you want that what happens in Kabul. You apperently don’t want what is good for.the civilans.

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                  Nice. Establish some traitor purges next. But nice try Stalin, go kil some people you disagree with somewhere else.

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            Are you kidding me? Whenever Russia was forced back, torture chambers, deported children, rape and violence done to civilians and mass graves were discovered. And it was Russia that forced the russian passport onto those people. To think that Ukraine would just deport its own citizens into the hell they just were freed from is absolutely ridiculous. To think that the civilians would want to hold on to the russian passport is ridiculous.

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              Mass civial graves where fake. German TV stations showed clearly military graves and claimed it was civilian. I saw the bodies.

              Deported children. What would you do with children in a warzone? Shitty but better then dying due to shellings.

              Torture chambers? Yes just as anyone does.

              Mass rapes where fake due to the Ukraine’s generals attorney not being able to find any evidence of them. ( also they then fired the Ukrainian minister for humanitarian right due to constantly making those up)

              Violence was and constantly is done to civilians on the Ukraine’s side. Just look at draft videos in Ukriane.

              To think that Ukraine would just deport its own citizens into the hell

              I don’t think it I souced it.

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                Mass civial graves where fake. German TV stations showed clearly military graves and claimed it was civilian. I saw the bodies.

                The UN, as useless as it is, has released a report on the warcrimes committed by Russia.
                Wer der BILD glaubt, hat von Anfang an verloren.

                Deported children. What would you do with children in a warzone? Shitty but better then dying due to shellings.

                The ICC has taken on a lawsuit against Russia for child trafficking. Fun fact, the admission from the Russian side makes this easiest case to proceed, as per the lead ICC prosecutor:

                JL: You’ve described Ukraine as a crime scene. The crimes are widespread and extensive. You don’t have infinite resources. So how do you focus the ICC efforts in Ukraine?

                KK: You make decisions, which must be informed by many factors: the gravity, the availability of evidence and the need to work at the speed of relevance. This is exactly what we’ve done in relation to Ukraine, in relation to the public warrants, because of the admissions effectively made by individuals in the Russian Federation, particularly President Putin and Children’s Rights Commissioner Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova. We investigated crimes against children and we move forward. And that’s the basic approach anywhere else: we look at the most serious crimes. When there’s more than one serious crime, we also look at the types of evidence available and start moving. And then we can go deeper, if and when necessary and if and when justified by the evidence.

                Torture chambers? Yes just as anyone does.

                Here is the sourced Wikiledia article for Russian torture chambers. There is no article describing Ukrainian torture chambers. I wonder why that is? /s

                Mass rapes where fake due to the Ukraine’s generals attorney not being able to find any evidence of them.

                The allegation that Russia uses rape systematically couldn’t be substantiated. That is something entirely different than claiming that rapes aren’t happening.

                Here is just one article of many, interviewing victims.

                Violence was and constantly is done to civilians on the Ukraine’s side. Just look at draft videos in Ukriane.

                Do we want to compare draft videos now? Ok, here is my entry:

                https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1855307/russian-conscripts-stripped-ukraine-war-latest

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            You ask them if they want to keep their russian citizenship or throw it on the pile of burning illegal passports.

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    So Tucker Carlson, the man who reportedly fucked a donkey once, will suck Putins cock on a livestream. His dreams must come true.

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    GOP’s sugar daddy doesn’t like his party’s results he paid for and wants to speak to their voter base directly; cut out the middle persons. Got to love how stupid people watch this propaganda for hire clown or the media mercenaries he spawned from.

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    I can’t wait to find out what really stupid asskissing questions he asks Putin with that fake confused look on his face.

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      Are we sure he’s not permanently semi confused? Like, wouldn’t surprise me to learn that he doesn’t quite have a grasp on things.

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        At this point I refuse to give this shit stain even the smallest benefit of doubt. He’s 1000% aware of what he’s doing, what he says, and the results.

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      If you have some whisky handy to make it palatable, watch the Carlson-Col.Macgregor interview for an idea of what to expect.

      Disgusting.

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    Ahh yes, the propagandist too controversial even for Fox News. Tens of millions of Americans will watch this heavily curated interview and think that Putin is a pretty good guy.

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      He’s always been a Russian asset. Kremlin memos leaked instructed RT to air as many Carlson clips as possible.

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    Reminds me of The Interview: Just sit near a window or shake hands with a fake gum.

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    I wonder if Carlson is fully aware of how deep the hole is that he is about to crawl into. He likely already is a full russian stooge, but if not, he’s about to find out just how tyrannical despots can be when you’re in their power. Imagine the open and implied threats to his life and his family as they walk him through exactly what to say. Imagine how they dissuade him when he suggests certain questions that he wants to ask. If he strays from the exact script? Somebody get a picture of him when he returns to the states, and if it’s within a week of the interview, see how many bruises, cuts, limps, or other signs of ‘treatment’ there are.

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      I just don’t understand why.

      He already has enough money to never work again. What is wrong with these people?

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        When you’re a psychopath of one description or another, who knows what might motivate you?

        Most of us normal people are content to be free to spend time with friends and family doing the things we love. Imagine if you couldn’t give a shit about that, and that’s basically the world’s most successful people.

        Their lineages have spent recent human history honing capitalism to be the vessel for the freedom of their kind. Money buys you freedom from consequences most of the time. That shouldn’t be possible.

        The internet opened up their world for us to see, and for a moment it looked like we might sieze control. Instead, we let ourselves be manipulates into thinking they do in fact give a shit, or at least if we tag along we’ll be winners too.

        The names we know are the ones who court controversy for the thrill.

        Elon Musk is an excellent example. Whatever talents he has are moot next to his moral insanity. All he cares about is having a legacy, and achieving the things he wants. He just pays lip service to any real altruism. I mean, he’s the last person who needs to preside over horrific working conditions. He even bans PPE because he doesn’t like bright colors.