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It’s amazing how fast Reddit went from my favorite place to be online to a trash heap
It’s somehow worse than ifunny
Reddit are past the point of no return for me. They could reverse all their API changes but I’m not going back. They’ve show their true colours.
They’ve show their true colours.
For me it was the CEO’s comments.
🤌 For me it was the advocating for death of delivery drivers (poor people)
Wait what?
What was that about?
Basically just “Why I got to tip poor people 🤬”
Weird stuff showing up on popular that ain’t right. Albeit I thread comments by controversial when possible
Yep. Duck those ducking duckers. I’m out.
I’m thinking your name should be Dr. Peking. And I’m not sure why.
for me it was learning there was somewhere else to go. Reddit has been garbage for a long time that if you dont argee exactly with someone with a little bit of power you get kicked out of subreddits
I only go to Reddit now because of one or two forums that don’t exist on here yet, But the more I see stories like this, the more I’m inclined to just say screw it and nuke my account.
Honestly, at this point, my plan is to nuke my account. The only communities on their that I really check that aren’t on here have devolved into mindless rage-bait. Probably a so-long and good riddance situation.
No one regrets getting banned from digg.
Do it. I did it when BaconReader stopped working, if they’re not going to do the bare minimum of caring about their users I’m not doing the bare minimum of caring about my content on their platform. It also makes it easy to not use it again.
Indeed.
I think the entire world should be nuked at this point.
Be patient. It will be.
whether quickly, or slowly, by attrition
It’s the only way to be sure.
There’s a schedule I rely on that gets posted on Reddit, but I just stay logged out and see it that way. I’ve asked on their Discord if they’d also post it on Lemmy or Mastodon, but they haven’t replied. It’s a very slow Discord though.
I haven’t nuked my account yet simply because I think it could do some good. I was a power user and I went back in and pinned a note to the top of my profile telling people to come to Lemmy. So anyone who looks me up, and I frequently got responses in months-old threads, so that’s not impossible, will see that. If it convinces even a couple of people, it’s worth it.
I did something similar to that with my Twitter account, that and while I stopped using it in November of last year I didn’t want to delete it right away in the off chance that things changed and it got better. But after a few months I figured anyone that wanted to find me on Mastodon would have found me and Twitter wasn’t any better, so I hit the nuke button. I get ya’.
I just got the data packet I requested from my 10+ year old account. I’m going to try downloading/opening it tomorrow, and if it works (I really want to see what I was talking about 10 years ago) I’m out.
I encourage others to do the same! I’ve heard that you should nuke all your high value posts and comments by editing them to just “.” before deleting, to ensure there’s no contribution even if reddit restores the data, which is apparently something they’ve started to do.
Id love to know what you wanna see here,
The only thing reddit cant do it stop people just not using reddit. All these protests really arent that effective as people leaving reddit and going elsewhere (hopefully lemmy tho.)
I’ve been gone for 15 days. I opened old.reddit a few times to see if the protests were working.
I haven’t gone on there at all in days and I’m fine with it. A little sad about it, but I’m fine with it.
Things keep getting better here and there aren’t so many people that having a discussion is like playing the lottery. Whatever I say, someone responds here. Someone sees it.
That’s nice. I’d like to see it grow, but not so much that everything you say gets lost in the noise.
The (48 hour) protests just communicate that u/spez can fuck us over 363 days of the year. The only thing that will work is leaving.
He takes a break on Christmas and New Year’s?
I’m past that hump as well. I was “protesting” and spreading the word through June on there, but when RiF stopped I stopped visiting the site except as a result of Google searches for specific things.
I don’t even really care what happens now over there, I’ll feel a bit of Schadenfreude the day I hear they’re going under but I don’t care to follow the day to day of what’s happening.
It’s also not going to be a quick process, it’s been going down the drain for years already and it’ll be many more years before it’s “dead”.
I’m just glad I found a new place to call home.
reddit is transforming itself from a social media platform into a history lesson at this point. I’d say don’t feel guilty if you still browse reddit at all, but don’t be shocked when it’s gone either.
the attitude and behavior of the company towards the community is what’s going to finish it off more than anything.
there’s so other ways they could’ve monetized reddit without causing all this, but they seem hell bent on being obtuse. to that, i shrug and move on.
Honestly I’ve been addicted to reddit for several years, and it even had negative consequences for my life. When I was depressed I just used reddit all day and became obsessed with the subreddit moderated. I deleted that account and now I’m in a much better place but that constant urge to open reddit is still there.
Before July 1 my reddit usage was around 2 hours every day, now it’s been 0 for 5 days.
So I’d like to Thank Reddit admins for this.
I used reddit for 11 years, founded multiple subreddits, and was a head mod on even more. I had over 150,000 karma. I spent hours a day for over decade in that shithole. I recently walked away. My account still lives but it is no longer a mod of any sub and I have deleted every single comment I ever made. I struggle every day to stay off reddit.
Happy for you friend! I also went from a few hours a day to nothing. Wasn’t trying to improve myself, it was just out of sheer rage at how things were being done over there. Any time I would log in I would feel self hatred and just end up making lengthy comments about spez being an asshole.
Question, have you tried replacing the hobby? I’ve found hiking and writing - (writing lyrics/other things as I hike/walk) to provide even more enjoyment than I was getting online 24/7
i liked reading discussions and learning things from lurking reddit but never felt compelled to participate in discussions. now that i got my lemmy account figured out my desire to be on there is even less.
for some reason i actually want to be a part of the fediverse community. maybe it rekindles some of that old internet spirit for me.
the only thing I miss about reddit is how much more diversity it had. cause let’s face it, there just isn’t as much content here. it’s also how I stayed caught up on current events
reddit certainly had a plethora of communities. the fediverse can get there too.
it’s going to be more hands on than reddit. we can’t wait for things to come to us like products on a conveyor belt. the content is in the discussions.
as long as people continue to participate, it will grow. stay positive.
that’s a good point. I’ll probably do my part and post a bunch just to fill stuff up a little more
Yeah, they also cured my addiction
I got banned for wrong-think (essentially talking back to a sub mod) and it greatly improved my mental health not being able to call out the absolutely driveling imbeciles that populate reddit. It just made me not care anymore.
And yes reddit admins will ban you if you respond to sub mods to complain
They ban permanently for all kinds of bs. Felt like walking on eggshells at that place.
Didn’t help that I wasn’t 100% “left” - ironically I did lean left but if you’re not 100% emphatically regurgitating all of the talking points they’re currently recycling they gang up on you, mass report, call for mods, twist words etc.
Last month a mod flipped out and called me a Nazi bc I commented that it’s bogus that mods blanket ban everyone that stumbles on and comments any sub that they dissaprove of.
Their logic was that if I comment on a conservative sub (Nazi?) Then that absolutely makes me a Nazi and there’s absolutely no grey area or context.
That seems to be what most of the communities in some subs is like as well. If you’re not high fiving them, you’re shooting at them.
I don’t like it… I miss the old days of the internet, sure we all argued and shit but everyone at least had their little factions. Now it feels like the left runs the entire internet because most sites don’t want Republicans there.
I get why but it sucks feeling like I don’t belong on either side. I’m apolitical, which in itself has sparked a dozen redshit arguments and accusations. Can’t say “apolitical” you’re just secretly a centrist if you do. Can’t disagree with BOTH sides because neither can fathom that. Can’t sympathize with a single “red” point of view bc you’re a Nazi.
Ugh.
Cringetopia (the sub) branched off and made a website. Loved that place. Unfortunately the subs own userbase hates the chAnge and boycotted the site, also running smear campaigns and bs saying the site was only in it for the money via ad revenue even though the site owners had paid out of their own pockets for the servers and there wasn’t a single ad…
Loved that site :(
Now it feels like the left runs the entire internet because most sites don’t want Republicans there.
It is interesting that this is your experience, but I can say that this is objectively not true. Especially if you’re on social media and not logged in, the content has a far right bias, there’s often at least one recommended video which goes in that direction. About twitter was one study that twitter systematically preferred right-wing content… before Elon bought it. And I mean, everyone knows about Facebook.
The fascist Bolsonaro (he literally said the dictatorship was Brazil’s best time and that its only mistake was to not torture enough; you gotta agree he’s a literal fascist) movement just won the presidential elections because of Facebook and social media. It is a massive system driving people especially to a far-right extreme.
What I can say about “Can’t disagree with BOTH sides because neither can fathom that.” is well… I mean, yeah, if you disagree with both, both probably won’t like that haha. But there is one problem to disagree with both sides if one side of them is e.g. literally trying to eradicate trans people, trying to deny them their existence, discriminate, etc., and also literally trying to undermine democracy and overthrow elections and is actively restricting who is able to vote, and the other one… isn’t.
I can understand if someone financially benefits from Republicans, or is business-friendly or such, but criticising both as in that both are the same amount of bad is just wrong and harmful, because we just got to the point where only one side got completely off all norms and in an antidemocratic and borderline genocidal.
(And for the record: I’m not a US-American. I am certainly not a fan of the US Democratic party. And I do think that of course it’s good to criticise everyone who does bad stuff, and to point that out.)I don’t support Republicans going against trans people or messing with abortion, to be honest I think they should keep their nose out of our personal choices and leave us be.
But I don’t like the left either.
It’s not “left vs. right” - that’s just how it’s framed to us. The U.S government is fucked up on all levels and both sides have done heinous things and kept us divided throughout history.
I truly believe that’s all the two party system is, division. Ever listened to “Binaural beats”? Where they play for example a lower frequency in one ear, but a higher frequency in the other. I don’t remember the exact method so pardon if I’m Rusty but basically the end result is we hear and are tuned to the frequency in between the two, low and high, sounds.
To me that’s what the two party system reminds me of. One party outrages and destroys certain liberties or whatever. The other party fights back and the result is whatever they want it to be.
I just want to do away with all of it. Remove every part of the government that isn’t directly benefitting our quality of life and start over.
If you view reddit in incognito or on a VPN, the front page absolutely, 100 percent has the most hard far left slant possible. Half the front page posts are from whitepeopletwitter which has the collective personality of a meth-ed up AOC crossed with Stalin
Well, I was generally talking about social media, and for Youtube, Facebook, Twitter it was all the other side. To be fair, I do not know about Reddit (haven’t read any studies about it and are personally not enough in that sphere), so I could imagine it to be the outlier. Besides that, this comment does not respond to any of my arguments or talking points.
Not left? Banned. Not far left? Banned. Not authleft? Banned.
I was banned from subreddits more often for opposing the open advocation of totalitarianism than anything else.
I guess some of that has come over here based on your comment scores, but at least your comments aren’t being removed 🤷♀️ I haven’t been downvoting anything here based on disagreement cause a) I think discouraging people from sharing their opinions here will kill the site, even if you don’t like their opinions and b) I think it’s wrong anyway.
I hope the extreme polarization and just general toxicity doesn’t last here. I get that Reddit is perfectly designed to split people into tribes, and I hope that’s not true of this site as well.
I agree entirely. Just because I might not agree with someone on their politics doesn’t mean we can’t have a civil discussion, especially regarding apolitical topics
It’s a shame because there’s so much good stuff on the site. (So much bad stuff, too, don’t get me wrong.) All that stuff is looking more and more likely to go up in smoke.
I just have to laugh.
Fuck reddit! I’m here now!
Right? The first few days I was worried it just wouldn’t be the same, but the slower upload of content here has made me browse when I want to without over browsing endlessly. The less active comment sections means I can interact with more people without being buried…it’s just better. And I’m excited to see it grow
Quality has been dramatically better here than Reddit has been for many years. Finding people actually discussing the post in the comments is rare on Reddit, you have to sift through endless lines of off topic puns and memes being promoted by bots for karma farming. The goal of comments on Reddit is to be funny, not interesting or useful. The fediverse is more like Reddit eight or nine years ago, when they were figuring out their control algorithms, building their own bot network to game their own site (remember the subreddit where the reddit-built bots used to exclusively talk with each other for practice? I wonder what those bots are doing today…), and learning how to control the flow of information on their page while also finally making some things more stable.
I’m really curious if any parts of the fediverse can avoid the same pitfalls that Reddit eagerly jumped into. It’s probably doubtful since once the advertisers get here, greed will win. It always does. But maybe.
This has been my biggest complaint. Wanna read the discussion? Be prepared to dig for it. It’s awful.
The largest thing I’ve noticed right now is there’s almost no new content. Like at all. There was some repeating but not like right now.
I’m a mod and almost none of the small subs I mod for are transitioning off of reddit as yet.
I do need to learn to mod here…
Amen to that! I’m not a super prolific poster here either, but compared to reddit I’m WAY more active, and it feels mre fun too. In 15 years on reddit I have only made 2 threads as far as I can remember, but on Lemmy (and Squabbles) I’ve been sharing my house plants recently and it feels great!
Yes, the community is much smaller, but also much kinder,and I the average age feels higher here too (I have zero data on it, but just judging by the writing style it feels like there’s a whole bunch of people roughly my age (40+) around these parts).
Yeah I definitely have the tendency to over estimate how old the people I’m talking to online are, but I agree that everyone here feels more like an adult lol
I think I’ve been afraid to comment on Reddit because I assume no one will read it or I won’t have anything novel to say. But I definitely agree that I like the smaller community here
I’m afraid to comment here because everyone will see it!
“According to most studies, people’s number one fear is public speaking. Number two is death. Death is number two. Does that sound right? This means to the average person, if you go to a funeral, you’re better off in the casket than doing the eulogy.” ― Seinfeld
Quality over quantity everytime for me.
On top of that, I feel far more incentive to comment, upvote, and just generally engage here.
Overall this feels like a less hostile environment, without the clickish groupthink that had an army of bots or trolls out to downvote you.
People have mentioned the higher complexity of getting set up on instances as a barrier to entry for the masses. I say wonderful. I’ll take a small community of diverse, engaged people over the mobs of span, trolls, and parrots.
Leaving reddit for lemmy feels like finding a nice person who cares after being in along abusive relationship. Never realised how bad it was, or how good it could be.
Is it temporary? Who knows, but I’d rather spend my time making this into what I want then ever looking back.
Yeah, it’s nice to feel like I’m contributing something as opposed to trying to muscle my way into a conversation that doesn’t need 10,000 of the people who are commenting, commenting.
“This!” - 1.4k votes
[Exact same comment being parroted, but with a much more extreme fervor about killing people who disagree] - 600 votes
“Wait. That’s not even what the article says. We shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions.” - “You have been permanently banned from large subreddit.”
I just got bored with reddit trying to make money through their users.
Reddit decides to “crack down” on the protests instead of realizing that it’s all because they’re being jerks.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
I don’t get why more people don’t just use ad blockers. The Reddit staff wouldn’t even know what’s happening until it’s too late.
Maybe they already know, that’s why they are purging the third party app and try squeeze money until ship is sank
I find it sad for all the useful information on that website ( which, if you come across, do repost it on a lemmy community! ) and the subreddits dedicated to helping others out. It would be great if we could build that on the fediverse, but I can imagine wanting to reach as many people as possible when you’re helping out veterans for example.
Indeed for years now I always searched for say “best TV Reddit” and got good answers instead of advertising
I was wondering about this, whether just taking some of my interresting or more sucesfull posts and discussions and reposting them to lemmy communities, maybe even summarizing the best comments from Reddit, would be a worthwhile endeavor. If so, it would be best to not do it at once, but gradually over the next weeks or months.
But you are right, I’ll definitely do that for obscure questions I had that were answered in a helpful way, so I can finally start writing “lemmy” instead of “reddit” after every google search.
I did it when I was looking up information about lore books from a video game and someone posted all the books as PDF’s in a comment 4 years ago. Thought that was a great example of something I could repost!
All I use Reddit for is updates on the russo-uknrainian war. Fuck spez. Wish the live thread comments had some kind of mirror here.
Personally, I’ve just switched to using https://www.understandingwar.org/ for my daily update and https://warontherocks.com/ for the deep dives.
The amount of useful information is similar, and the signal to noise ratio is far better.
How do we tell them to get on threads.net
Fuck threads
There is a lot of information about the war on Mastodon. It might be enough for you if you want to take a look. #Ukraine and #UkraineWar are both worth looking into.
It’s a shame how shabbily reddit’s board and u/spez (and his lackeys) have treated reddit’s users and mods. They benefited enormously from free content and hours of unpaid moderation, yet they chose to throw it all away.
This screams “Please stop this and go back to doing work for free.” They keep threatening but know they need the free labor.
Exactly. And it’s driving me crazy how many mods are caving. Like, I get that you care about the community and want it to continue on, but will it even be the same now that you know how little control you actually have? Will it survive the next insane, profit driven decision Reddit makes and refuses to negotiate on? Just rip the band-aid off now like /r/interestingasfuck and others did and let them remove you. We’ve seen that they can’t actually replace what was lost, so let them try.
but will it even be the same now that you know how little control you actually have?
Some communities weren’t even the same anymore after those 48h protests. And you can basically feel which parts of the community instantly left the moment they realized all that talk about protesting was bullshit and it was purely symbolic.
“But if I lose my fragile grip on this iota of power, I’ll have nothing, and I’ll BE nothing. I can’t start over again from nothing!”
I strongly believe that that is exactly what is subconsciously going on there. The human mind is addicted to power, no matter which form.
I never really thought about it but I totally see which mods were actually protesting and which mods used it to “protest” and add some spice to their mundane non-medieval memes
Power over something is appealing to humans. I notice it in myself as well.
If you look around in general, at all different human communities and situations, you will see how it manifests itself almost everywhere. In the government bureaucrat that lets someone wait just because they can. In the child that takes another child’s toy even though they don’t even want to play with it themselves. In the teenager that participates in mobbing. In the owner that overly scolds their pet. In the politician that doesn’t have any values and just says whatever is necessary to get votes. In the parent that tries to make their child behave in a certain way. In the boss that micro manages their employees. In the community moderator that can ban anyone they please.
I could keep going.
Power is a means, but it is very often also just an end. I think it’s really important to be aware of that, because power just for power’s sake is imo one of the most dangerous state of minds one can have.
Them replacing mods is what scares me the most. My subreddit is for advice for stretching piercings. If I continued to protest or even outright deleted my subreddit, and they restored it and replaced the mod team, what quality of moderating should I expect? Like I get it on meme subs, not hard to moderate that sort of content. But I know damn well they aren’t going to get people with experience relative to the more specific subs.
You can never delete a subreddit once created. Ever. That’s why many are editing, then deleting, their comments.
The best you can do is to create a community on Lemmy and invite your redditors to the new community.
That’s where we are now, the migration has begun. But now, I’m stuck with a foot on each boat while I spread the word.
What is this? The Final Final Final Final Last Warning before the Last Final Final Final Final Last Final Warning?
I’m disappointed how few subreddits are daring to call their bluff, or put their full weight behind migrating. It’s clear reddit actually aren’t able to replace moderators that easily, but they still are letting themselves be held hostage.
r/interestingasfuck still doesn’t have moderators. It’s been closed for 18 days now.
not so easily to find free labor when you bully them right u/spez
Seriously. I never want to hear how hard it is to mod a subreddit with existing mod tools again. They’ve rolled over for spez (which is their right) and they don’t get to complain about it anymore.
Reddit is slowly dying. Major nerd communities like r/startrek migrated already. And remaining users will soon realize that their feeds are becoming more and more lifeless. Kinda like twitter feels since Elon.
I’ve been hanging around on /r/StreetFighter since the SF6 beta dropped, and I honestly just wish they’d freaking move to Lemmy already or something. I dunno what other forums even exist for the fighting game community at this point outside of Reddit :(
Where did they go?
Join us at startrek.website
Lol nice, loving these new domains
They are not new domains. .ml is the domain for Mali. .ee is from estonia. .website is a generic one. There’s a whole bunch of them, but you can’t just make something up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains
GTLDs are still "new"ish…as in like 2012 lol.
Well uhh, new to me. Felt new in 2012 🤷
they’re here and growing. star trek@startrek.website
Reddit is slowly dying
But it isn’t. It’s growing and it will keep growing. Only a tiny percentage gives a shit about privacy and decentralization.
That said, I already much prefer Lemmy.
