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Savagegeese review
Thoughts? The Toyota truck fanbase is torn in half over these new generations of trucks.
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Savagegeese review
Thoughts? The Toyota truck fanbase is torn in half over these new generations of trucks.
It reminds me in every way of the Tundra. Which is to say I do think it delivers for that bulk of the market between the SR5 to TRD Off-road trims very well. And if the hybrid lives up to the fuel economy that will be great.
But I personally am a person who cares about the top of the market off-road capability. And like the Tundra… the Tacoma seems to let me down.
Particularly the TRD Pro and Trailhunter don’t do it for me. When Ford, GM, and Jeep have all truly moved the mid-size truck off-road capability to very high levels with the ZR2, Raptor, and Rubicon models… Toyota didn’t move forward much at all. Those companies are putting long travel suspensions, both front and rear lockers, special transfer cases with either 4WD Auto or extra low gearing, tire sizes, and much more aggressive clearances.
So… solid truck. But once again Toyota doesn’t design for me though. And I guess… that’s ok.
Maybe I’m just misremembering earlier videos but I swear they said everything you just mentioned except the long travel suspension was included on the TRD Pro and Trailhunter…
Long travel suspension is a huge deal. It is very expensive to do in the aftermarket (and you have to throw out a ton of parts you paid for from factory and your warranty to do it). And enhances every type of off-roading be it high speed or slow and technical. Toyota didn’t widen the axles or control arms on the new TRD Pro/TH. Whereas GM and Ford do widen the axles and control arms for the ZR2 and Raptor. And the Gladiator solid axles are still best for articulation at slow speeds.
The new Tacoma doesn’t have a front locker. The others do.
The Ranger Raptor is full-time 4WD. GM has an auto 4H. Jeep has the lowest range 4L by far. All unique features that Toyota lacks on the Pro and TH (they only offer auto 4H the Limited trim).
I also think the Trailhunter is a big missed opportunity to make a true from the factory overlander. Toyota puts the ARB shocks, which are good but again lack travel, and possibly different springs on it. And a rear steel bumper from ARB. But didn’t fully commit and offer a front winch capable steel bumper. Which GM does with the Bison and so does Jeep. Having these from the factory are far more important than a built in air compressor (neat but way cheaper and easier to do aftermarket, let alone the very real warranty and insurance implications when you do things like aftermarket steel bumpers).
Yeah, I agree 100%. They made these new tacomas track width bigger, but they didn’t improve the suspension travel at all - iirc they achieved the wider track with some spacers or something like that. Meanwhile, the ranger raptor and colorado zr2 bison come with both lockers, much better power trains and eeked out every millimeter of suspension travel (practically) possible. But toyota fanboys will still buy these and think they have the best, most capable midsize trucks ever
Ironically I would take the Colorado Bison with the baby duramax over this new Tacoma and I used to be a huge Toyota fanboy. This really is the turning for point for Toyota where they are doubling down on the fanboys and ignoring the normal customers who will go to GM and Ford. You played yourself Toyota.