Everyone else laughed at Tesla first. Then kept watching their slow growth, often laughing (but softer). Then Model3 came out and they panicked and started trying to catch up a 10 year advantage Tesla has almost kept intact to date.
Also: Rivian, Tesla and other EV only manufacturers have not the problems to convert existing, outdated and often unusable factories to EV production, nor have the burden of dealerships. Finally, Tesla doesn’t outsource almost anything. This means that they can improve their cars every week, and adapt to any change they must introduce. When Ford has an outsourced piece of hardware coming from China being replaced with a different one, the time they need to adapt their car software can be much much longer than the time Tesla need to do the same with an in-house item
10 year advantage Tesla has almost kept intact to date.
Could you name so domains were Tesla is 10 years ahead?
the problems to convert existing, outdated and often unusable factories to EV production
That’s what manufacturers do with all new cars or major refreshes. Basically everything inside gets sold and retooled. Look at european manufacturers, all their factories are retooled ICE ones and quality wise these doesn’t seem to be worse.
nor have the burden of dealerships
What burden exactly?
Tesla doesn’t outsource almost anything
Just battery cells, suspension parts, radar chips, cameras, tires, wheels, plastic parts, fasteners etc.
When Ford has an outsourced piece of hardware coming from China being replaced with a different one, the time they need to adapt their car software can be much much longer than the time Tesla need to do the same with an in-house item
Hm, Tesla was using Bosch radar and switched to cameras and their autopilot software with vision only is still lagging behind the Mobileye+Bosch Radar one.
They still outsource battery cells. Also, the quality of the old, outsourced Brembo brakes and Continental suspensions were far higher than those in a new Tesla. Many Continental air suspensions from 2013 are good as new after 250,000 km, which is a feat even Porsche and Audi will struggle to beat. Nowadays, air suspension failures in the S and X happen allt he time once the five year warranty is expired.
Teslas frequent software updates do more harm than good, and the updates often have bugs in them.
Back in the day you couldn’t get away with saying there here because the gullibles needed to believe Tesla was a wild rnd company to make the financials work
True. To be fair, I was also a Tesla Stan once. All the stories were “anecdotes” that wouldn’t happen to me. One drive unit and the battery failed on the warranty. The other DU also failed on the warranty.
The new owner is experiencing battery problems now. 🤡 I sold the car cheaply “as is” and warned him that this could happen anytime, though.
To be fair, it was indeed a cheap car to own while under warranty, apart from the insurance.
you must have got here before me. this place was wildly anti tesla four or so years ago, and has steadily softened its stance, probably as more and more drivers realized that having the speedometer near the middle of the dash isn’t the end of the world.
Everyone else laughed at Tesla first. Then kept watching their slow growth, often laughing (but softer). Then Model3 came out and they panicked and started trying to catch up a 10 year advantage Tesla has almost kept intact to date.
Also: Rivian, Tesla and other EV only manufacturers have not the problems to convert existing, outdated and often unusable factories to EV production, nor have the burden of dealerships. Finally, Tesla doesn’t outsource almost anything. This means that they can improve their cars every week, and adapt to any change they must introduce. When Ford has an outsourced piece of hardware coming from China being replaced with a different one, the time they need to adapt their car software can be much much longer than the time Tesla need to do the same with an in-house item
Could you name so domains were Tesla is 10 years ahead?
That’s what manufacturers do with all new cars or major refreshes. Basically everything inside gets sold and retooled. Look at european manufacturers, all their factories are retooled ICE ones and quality wise these doesn’t seem to be worse.
What burden exactly?
Just battery cells, suspension parts, radar chips, cameras, tires, wheels, plastic parts, fasteners etc.
Hm, Tesla was using Bosch radar and switched to cameras and their autopilot software with vision only is still lagging behind the Mobileye+Bosch Radar one.
They still outsource battery cells. Also, the quality of the old, outsourced Brembo brakes and Continental suspensions were far higher than those in a new Tesla. Many Continental air suspensions from 2013 are good as new after 250,000 km, which is a feat even Porsche and Audi will struggle to beat. Nowadays, air suspension failures in the S and X happen allt he time once the five year warranty is expired.
Teslas frequent software updates do more harm than good, and the updates often have bugs in them.
Back in the day you couldn’t get away with saying there here because the gullibles needed to believe Tesla was a wild rnd company to make the financials work
True. To be fair, I was also a Tesla Stan once. All the stories were “anecdotes” that wouldn’t happen to me. One drive unit and the battery failed on the warranty. The other DU also failed on the warranty.
The new owner is experiencing battery problems now. 🤡 I sold the car cheaply “as is” and warned him that this could happen anytime, though.
To be fair, it was indeed a cheap car to own while under warranty, apart from the insurance.
you must have got here before me. this place was wildly anti tesla four or so years ago, and has steadily softened its stance, probably as more and more drivers realized that having the speedometer near the middle of the dash isn’t the end of the world.
Tesla still outsources thousands of parts and components.
nothing except for batteries
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