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my popcorn won’t last 500 years
Save some to plant and grow more.
In 500 years, you will have planted enough corn, that every thing will run on bio fuel, and we will have no evs, smart move that will hurt Tesla even more!
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Yeah! Screw 2523AD Tesla! That’ll teach 'em!
500 years? That seems hard to believe on its face. How could they possibly sitting on that much money?
It’s a union that prepares to handle strikes of hundreds of thousands of workers at the same time. This strike is about ~100 workers, how could they NOT have that money?
Because most people in the country are union members, and strikes are extremely rare. So it accumulates fast, and for a 100 years.
Interesting to watch. I wonder if Tesla will just bail. Taking their ball and going home would be the quintessential Elon move.
Idk Scandinavia is big in EVs i dont think itd make sense to miss out on so many sales, and it would probably impact their sales in like Norway aswell.
Plus every existing Tesla in Sweden that needs repairs is fucked as long as the strike continues. If Tesla wants non-union personnel to repair them then they’ll have to ship them out of sweden. Provided they can even get them out of sweden as the transport companies and ports also have union blockades against Tesla
And Denmark and Finland.
There’s like 3 employees striking lol. This sun is full of bots and politically compromised tesla haters.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Tesla just moved out
It could also sink the company in Sweden if people stop buying the product because of the union spat.
Volvo/polestar will be happy with this outcome. XD
Oof. There are some really salty people in these comments already. Labor unity is a beautiful thing. Workers should always have power over their employer.
Ironically this is a much more free market approach, however, than the way unions work in the US, especially in states that don’t have right-to-work. The unions in Sweden are just as much free market participants as businesses and live and die by their ability to provide values to their clients (workers)
It’s the same ones in every thread too, lol. Two or three people who really hate anything that could hurt their investment, rights be damned.
I have said this before in this subreddit but those few people probably own Tesla stock, so they have a financial incentive for Tesla to do well, which explains the defensiveness.
Isn’t it also jalousy for some people who don’t have an union to represent them?
It’s actually incredible that anyone here could be salty about it. Unless, of course, the majority of commenters are American employers, but I don’t think that’s the case.
Stand up for your rights, people. It’s not a conspiracy.
The employees can get stock with their employees stock options, and become part owners of the company. That’s far better than refusing to work unless you get exactly what you want.
Are the Tesla employees even striking? All I’ve seen so far is stories that the actual employees aren’t striking but a bunch of tertiary companies are.
Well, where have you looke öd for information? Swedish newspapers or some sort of filtered version?
“But so far, none of the car mechanics working here have chosen to join the strike.”
~Dagans Arbete: Industry Workers NewpaperNot to imply no-one has joined, but there’s evidence it’s a minority of employees.
According to Tesla less than 10% have chosen to strike.
There’s like 3 employees striking lmao. When pointing out facts everyone on here just labels us as investor shills instead of addressing the actual facts.
Do you have any source for those facts that is reputable and not from a Tesla fan or Tesla fan site? I’ve yet to see one.
130 of Teslas own employees (mechanics) are on strike. About half their workforce in Sweden. Around 400-500 mechanics in other companies are on sympathy strikes, meaning they wont work on Teslas, not on Teslas dime anyways. Source all major Norwegian news outlets.
Oh ffs you shills with the teslarati nonsense
Why won’t someone think of the poor billionaires.
Oh no how would they afford their yatchs
Or their superyachts. Or rocket ships. How can they be expected to live with just a few dozen of each?
Now they have to wait a couple of weeks before they can afford it.
It’s crazy how many people are here simping for their overlords.
This sub is a Tesla shill sub. Nothing short. And the 7 or so adamant Tesla propagandists, I can’t use the cult name because the mods will ban me, show up to every single one of these threads with the same parroted information.
LOL what a conspiracy
Or maybe some people are familiar with the UAW.
it’s because american minds have been colonized by false exceptionalism
source: am american, can’t wait to leave
Can’t wait to see you leave. And of course remain reliant on American industry in whatever declining region you enter.
Anything we can do to help you achieve your goal?
Bullshit corporatism, the new book, should be a vaccine against this
When you spend so much time on reddit, that “America bad” is your entire world view.
It’s unfortunate that people who claim they love America want to see it continue to make the same mistakes and have the same flaws. Actually loving something means wanting it to be the best it can be. Somehow the people who call themselves patriots don’t see it that way though.
Our unions are not the same. If they were people would likely have a different perception and membership would be increasing.
I mean the Tesla workers seem content with what they currently have and don’t want to strike or unionize. If there’s no organic means for that to happen, what exactly is their goal here?
don’t want to strike or unionize
So that’s why they joined a union? Because they don’t want to unionize?
If there’s no organic means for that to happen
unions are different over there.
https://nordics.info/show/artikel/trade-unions-in-the-nordic-region
Trade unions play a more important role in Nordic politics and economics than they do in most other countries. This is largely a result of their organisational success, which has made them key actors in policymaking as well as in collective bargaining.
The Nordic countries continue to have the highest union density in the world. In 2016, of all blue and white-collar workers, membership of trade unions amounted to 52% in Norway, 65% in Finland, 84% in Iceland, 66% in Sweden, and 67% in Denmark. By comparison, between 20 and 30% of employees are generally unionised in most other European Union countries - the exception is Belgium, which has a similar organisational structure to the Nordics - and 10% in the United States. A much larger percentage of employees are covered by collective bargaining agreements, 80-90% in the Nordic countries.
You didn’t answer the question though. If the employees are happy with their compensation, then why is the mafia striking?
That is not the issue at hand though. If Tesla were to sign the CBA, there would be an absolute minimum of compensation they agree to under no circumstances go below. They would still be free to offer everything they offer now
They’re not happy with the package. That’s why they’re striking. Why do you think they’re striking?
What does this have to do with EVs in general? Looks like a rule breaking political post to me.
it’s an anti Tesla post… it’ll go all the way to the top.
Why do they need jobs if they can strike for 500 years?
You think they can support all of its hundreds of thousands of members for 500 years? Great logic there.
Because the union is around 300k members and supporting them all would only have the funds for one year of striking. This is about 100 workers, the union can support them forever.
Fuck corporate overlords regardless of owner
What does this have to do with EVs in general? Looks like a rule breaking political post to me.
It’s about Tesla, an EV maker
Lots of news about a market that is 1.5% of Tesla’s total sales
anyone remember when the first propaganda articles came out denying this strike existed and all the swedish workers were refusing to strike because they were so happy?
lol
And this sub was filled with the regular, and most proliferation, Tesla shillls parroting every single iteration of the the same teslarati article in existence….
Even this Polish website about EVs - elektrowoz.pl (“alternative” name teslawoz.pl, it’s actually full of anti-union corporate shills) parroted that nonsense. Good to know that r/electricvehicles on Reddit is overwhelmingly pro-union and a much better place to read about EVs.
That’s still the case. So few Tesla employees are in fact striking that barely nothing changed for Tesla. That’s why LO expanded the strike to include unrelated car shops, the post office and various other companies who are now refusing to service Tesla vehicles and work with Tesla.
What this means is that many owners of Tesla vehicles can’t have the tires on their vehicles changed to winter tires, which is a dangerous and deeply irresponsible action on the side of the unions. If this continues, people will die, and the blood will be on LOs hands. Very weird situation, similar to idiots gluing themselves to the road to help the environment, thereby blocking ambulances and letting people die.
Maybe Tesla should sign that collective bargaining agreement then?
its literally 6 workers, calm your Scandinavian tits.
Maybe provide a source rather than just parrot someone else who also diesn’t provide a source.
130 workers are striking.
https://www.dn.se/ekonomi/if-metall-har-10-miljarder-att-strejka-for/
Meh. They can last because so few are striking I guess?
How long does the union continue to pay ex employees when Tesla decides to just hire non union replacements?
Or is that somehow illegal in that country?
How much are their union dues to have 500 years of strike fund? Did some wealthy person die and find a strike fund?
This is not a US union. Union leaders are honest. See AMO a few years back for contrast.