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THIS is the reason I’ve been hesitant about getting an EV. Well… At least for now :)
I have hope for the future
It’s weird how Hydro Quebec is able to get all of this working reliably with Electric Circuit in very challenging weather… You know who else gets hardware to work out in the elements? Banks with ATMs, fuel companies with fuel pumps, municipalities with parking meters, parking garages with pay terminals, vending machine companies, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc…
“We’re too incompetent to make this work.” is not a valid excuse for these charge network operators.
because they dont care, are losing money, and again, dont care.
In my area, a few DCFCs were made with 3G networks earlier on. Now that it’s dead the stations are dead and the company is refusing an upgrade, and trying to make the owners just buy new stations.
Making something reliant solely on 3G is stupid since 2010.
Killing 3G is stupid since so many devices still rely on it.
There’s a parking lot for a shopping center near me with something like 8 EVGO level 2 chargers. All dead because they were reliant on 3G. Some companies were really short sighted about that. At least they don’t appear on the apps when I search.
Embarassing.
Really think there should be some kind of legislation requiring EV chargers to allow charging by default whenever there’s some type of software issue like payment processor down/cellular network down etc.
It would incentivize the provider to get it fixed ASAP if it actually cost them money.
Because we hired a European company who is only doing this because they were forced to as reparation for deliberatly polluting our air with poorly engineered vehicles. The end.
The American company with a vested interest in making reliable fast chargers has been spectacularly successful. Maybe we should hire them to build out a huge network, and kick VW back to Europe.
Can anyone outside of the US comment on the situation in their country/ region? I know CCS is the standard in Europe and I believe Tesla’s made in Europe even have to have CCS not NACS. Are the issues highlighted in this video also experienced outside of the US?
No. Switzerland (+Germany and Austria). I’ve not experienced any issues and the forums don’t seem to suggest issues are common either. And yes, Teslas sold here have standard connectors, as have the superchargers, some of which are open to all brands.
The hilarious thing about this being a US problem is that it’s a European company screwing us over with their malicious compliance. We should send them home and let Tesla build out our infrastructure. They seem to have a much better strategy and far higher reliability.
Unmanned public chargers is such a bad idea in so many places.
I also think it’s a missed opportunity. You’re going to be there for 15 - 45 minutes to charge why not have a convenience store / coffee shop / waiting area for drivers who are charging.
VW because of dieselgate got a 2 billion dollar penalty and built an EV public charge infrastructure but of course it was malicious compliance. Until they are as profitable as gas stations its gonna be tough.
Trouble is, gas stations aren’t actually profitable. It’s about a 5 cent per gallon markup, and the average station sells 4000 gallons per day. Granted, that’s $73000 per year, but factor in the cost to maintain the site, and it’s a loss leader. In reality, gas stations make their money on the convenience or grocery stores that are attached to them.
Do you want to know the crazy part? The 4x markup on the cost of electricity and the simple nature of a DC fast charger when compared to a gas pump means that they already are more profitable… But since gas pumps are a loss leader, that’s not saying much.
In CA, CostCo can sell gas almost a dollar less than the competition. I doubt they are selling at a loss, so I doubt the competition only makes 5c a gallon
why not?
Speaking of shitty EV chargers, I upgraded my EV last week. Today I plug it in and my 5 year old Juicebox made some funny arcing noise and let out the blue smoke.
In Europe there are much fewer problems. I only encountered problems starting charging on my BMW I3 on very old DC chargers. But of course, without an application from an operator or roaming operator (I use BMW Charging) it is difficult to charge, due to the large number of different operators.
I usually look at Chargeprice to see which charging cards and operators are supported at this station
Old issues. Like windows etc KISS. (Keep it simple stupid!). Have a watchdog timer and a small microcontroller.
This is total BS. How often there are Credit Card issues at gas pump? Also, what about visitors? install US apps from aboard is just as chaotic