NuScale and its primary partner give up on its first installation.

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    How’s the saying go, again? “The best time to build nuclear was 20 years ago. The second best time is to build solar or wind instead now.”

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    Don’t waste your time in conservative areas that don’t care about clean energy. Michigan now has a mandate to go fossil-free and we want nuclear plants here.

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      I just wish they get rid of DTE in SE and make energy a public service like Ann Arbor is planning

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      Conservatives have pushed nuclear plenty. Margot Thatcher was one of the first politicians to embrace the science of Global Warming as a way to push nuclear. Opposition to nuclear has usually come from the nuttier corners of the left, like Greenpeace.

      This project simply saw the numbers shift and backers started pulling out. Cost and budget overruns are the norm in the industry, and here we go again.

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      Cleanest energy generation around. It produces a handful of waste per year (the whole US generates around half a Olympic pool per year), which could be further reduced by using some of that waste too in newer generation plants, like in European countries.

      The traditional nuclear plant has a design that (on purpose perhaps) produces plutonium, which the government like as they can build nukes with it.

      And of course there have been accidents, but mostly due to incompetence or negligence. And don’t forget coal plants produce a huge amount of nuclear radiation too and they just expel it from their chimneys.

      https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/5-fast-facts-about-spent-nuclear-fuel

      https://world-nuclear.org/nuclear-essentials/what-is-nuclear-waste-and-what-do-we-do-with-it.aspx

      The worst part of renewable energies now is the waste. Wind power blades are not recyclable and literally just get buried in big fields (a problem for the next generation I guess…) and solar panels are “not commerically interesting” to recycle, so around 90% of them too just get dumped.

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

      https://e360.yale.edu/features/solar-energy-panels-recycling

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        To put down the bad site of things:

        • cost nuclear is significantly more expensive then renewables. For the US and this project is was 30 times more per MW.
        • it takes about a decade to built a single plant, with cost overruns being common
        • single plants are so expensive that they can only be built with government support
        • total certralization of production, so basicly only big companies and governments
        • nuclear is baseload althou the production can be varied it is hard to turn off a plant quickly and turn it back on again
        • very real dangour of terrorist attacks
        • huge failure points in the grid, if you have a problem. Since they produce as much as they do, it causes huge problems, if they do not work properly for any sort of reason and there are a lot of them.

        Important to mention the downsides as well, so I thought I help out a bit.

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    “ With the price of renewables dropping precipitously, however, the project’s economics have worsened. Some of the initial backers started pulling out of the project earlier in the decade, although the numbers continued to fluctuate in the ensuing years.” Ah well. Let’s wait for fusion.

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      It is basicly what France did. Built a lot of nuclear power plants and due to economies of scale you can built them cheaply. Thats how France got a nearly no fossil fuel electricity grid. However cheap is relativ and a single nuclear power plant currently produces a lot of power, but is expensive. So the idea is to downscale and built a lot of smaller plants, which are cheaper and built even more of them to get economies of scale.

      The idea is not bad, just the fact that nuclear is too expensive.