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    Case 8:25-cv-02487-SDM-NHA Document 5 Filed 09/19/25 Page 1 of 4 PageID 165

                           UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
                            MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
                                  TAMPA DIVISION
    
    
    PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP
    
    v.                                                CASE NO. 8:25-cv-2487-SDM-NHA
    
    NEW YORK TIMES COMPANY, a
    New York corporation, et al.
    _________________________________/
    
                                          ORDER
    
           As every member of the bar of every federal court knows (or is presumed to
    
    know), Rule 8(a), Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, requires that a complaint include
    
    “a short and plain statement of the claim showing that the pleader is entitled to re-
    
    lief.” Rule 8(e)(1) helpfully adds that “[e]ach averment of a pleading shall be simple,
    
    concise, and direct.” Some pleadings are necessarily longer than others. The differ-
    
    ence likely depends on the number of parties and claims, the complexity of the gov-
    
    erning facts, and the duration and scope of pertinent events. But both a shorter plead-
    
    ing and a longer pleading must comprise “simple, concise, and direct” allegations
    
    that offer a “short and plain statement of the claim.” Rule 8 governs every pleading
    
    in a federal court, regardless of the amount in controversy, the identity of the parties,
    
    the skill or reputation of the counsel, the urgency or importance (real or imagined) of
    
    the dispute, or any public interest at issue in the dispute.
    
           In this action, a prominent American citizen (perhaps the most prominent
    
    American citizen) alleges defamation by a prominent American newspaper publisher
    
    (perhaps the most prominent American newspaper publisher) and by several other
    

    Case 8:25-cv-02487-SDM-NHA Document 5 Filed 09/19/25 Page 2 of 4 PageID 166

    corporate and natural persons. Alleging only two simple counts of defamation, the
    
    complaint consumes eighty-five pages. Count I appears on page eighty, and Count II
    
    appears on page eighty-three. Pages one through seventy-nine, plus part of page
    
    eighty, present allegations common to both counts and to all defendants. Each count
    
    alleges a claim against each defendant and, apparently, each claim seeks the same
    
    remedy against each defendant.
    
          Even under the most generous and lenient application of Rule 8, the com-
    
    plaint is decidedly improper and impermissible. The pleader initially alleges an elec-
    
    toral victory by President Trump “in historic fashion” — by “trouncing” the oppo-
    
    nent — and alludes to “persistent election interference from the legacy media, led
    
    most notoriously by the New York Times.” The pleader alludes to “the halcyon
    
    days” of the newspaper but complains that the newspaper has become a “full-
    
    throated mouthpiece of the Democrat party,” which allegedly resulted in the “de-
    
    ranged endorsement” of President Trump’s principal opponent in the most recent
    
    presidential election. The reader of the complaint must labor through allegations,
    
    such as “a new journalistic low for the hopelessly compromised and tarnished ‘Gray
    
    Lady.’” The reader must endure an allegation of “the desperate need to defame with
    
    a partisan spear rather than report with an authentic looking glass” and an allegation
    
    that “the false narrative about ‘The Apprentice’ was just the tip of Defendants’ melt-
    
    ing iceberg of falsehoods.” Similarly, in one of many, often repetitive, and laudatory
    
    (toward President Trump) but superfluous allegations, the pleader states, “‘The
    
    
    
                                             -2-
    

    Case 8:25-cv-02487-SDM-NHA Document 5 Filed 09/19/25 Page 3 of 4 PageID 167

    Apprentice’ represented the cultural magnitude of President Trump’s singular bril-
    
    liance, which captured the [Z]eitgeist of our time.”
    
          The complaint continues with allegations in defense of President Trump’s fa-
    
    ther and the acquisition of the Trumps’ wealth; with a protracted list of the many
    
    properties owned, developed, or managed by The Trump Organization and a list of
    
    President Trump’s many books; with a long account of the history of “The Appren-
    
    tice”; with an extensive list of President Trump’s “media appearances”; with a de-
    
    tailed account of other legal actions both by and against President Trump, including
    
    an account of the “Russia Collusion Hoax” and incidents of alleged “lawfare”
    
    against President Trump; and with much more, persistently alleged in abundant,
    
    florid, and enervating detail.
    
          Even assuming that each allegation in the complaint is true (of course, that is
    
    for a jury to decide and is not pertinent here; this order suggests nothing about the
    
    truth of the allegations or the validity of the claims but addresses only the manner of
    
    the presentation of the allegations in the complaint); even assuming that at trial the
    
    plaintiff offers evidence supporting every allegation in the complaint and that the evi-
    
    dence is accepted by the jury as fact; and even assuming that after finally “melting”
    
    the defendants’ alleged “iceberg of falsehoods” the plaintiff prevails for each reason
    
    alleged in the complaint — even assuming all of that — a complaint remains an im-
    
    proper and impermissible place for the tedious and burdensome aggregation of pro-
    
    spective evidence, for the rehearsal of tendentious arguments, or for the protracted
    
    recitation and explanation of legal authority putatively supporting the pleader’s claim
    
                                              -3-
    

    Case 8:25-cv-02487-SDM-NHA Document 5 Filed 09/19/25 Page 4 of 4 PageID 168

    for relief. As every lawyer knows (or is presumed to know), a complaint is not a pub-
    
    lic forum for vituperation and invective — not a protected platform to rage against an
    
    adversary. A complaint is not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a
    
    passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park
    
    Speakers’ Corner.
    
           A complaint is a mechanism to fairly, precisely, directly, soberly, and econom-
    
    ically inform the defendants — in a professionally constrained manner consistent
    
    with the dignity of the adversarial process in an Article III court of the United States
    
    — of the nature and content of the claims. A complaint is a short, plain, direct state-
    
    ment of allegations of fact sufficient to create a facially plausible claim for relief and
    
    sufficient to permit the formulation of an informed response. Although lawyers re-
    
    ceive a modicum of expressive latitude in pleading the claim of a client, the com-
    
    plaint in this action extends far beyond the outer bound of that latitude.
    
           This complaint stands unmistakably and inexcusably athwart the requirements
    
    of Rule 8. This action will begin, will continue, and will end in accord with the rules
    
    of procedure and in a professional and dignified manner. The complaint is STRUCK
    
    with leave to amend within twenty-eight days. The amended complaint must not ex-
    
    ceed forty pages, excluding only the caption, the signature, and any attachment.
    
           ORDERED in Tampa, Florida, on September 19, 2025.
    
    
    
    
                                               -4-
    

    Or more succinctly, this is the judge essentially saying:

    You and your lawyers are complete fucking idiots. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.











  • I’m not sure you’re getting the nuance of what is happening here.

    These childhood vaccines are currently all given together, in a very commonly and globally available MMR (measles, mumps, rubella - idk about chicken pox; when I was a kid, that wasn’t a thing yet). It is a simple and effective broad-spectrum vaccine. It has been given to literally billions of children, with a very, very low incidence of complications, and the complications are not autism.

    What they’re doing is splitting them all up, due to (iirc) asinine and scientifically disproven fearmongering around causes of autism. That’s not how those vaccines work, and that’s not how autism works. It’s a line of logic based entirely on a disproven, debunked, and retracted study done by a doctor who had his medical license revoked as a result of publishing the “study”.

    This will only serve to:

    • make it more difficult for conscientious parents to get their kids easily and effectively immunized against childhood diseases
    • make the vaccines cost more
    • likely make it easier for insurance companies to reconsider covering one or more of those vaccines
    • make it possible for idiotic parents to “do their own research” and opt out of one or more of the vaccines for no rational or justifiable reason
    • pave the way for removing the mandates and recommendations for those vaccines in a piecemeal fashion




  • No. You’re deeply mischaracterizing the situation.

    The Democrats could have, at any point since 2008, responded to Republican obstructionism with this very same policy. It has been brutally apparent for well over two decades that the GOP was not negotiating in good faith, and would never again negotiate in good faith. The Democratic Party refused to even consider employing even the most basic precepts of game theory. They continued to negotiate with a bad faith actor in good faith, and were somehow constantly surprised when said bad faith actor acted in bad faith. That’s not politics. That’s rank idiocy.