Austria, Denmark, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Romania, Spain and Sweden are pushing to explore the idea of moving from unanimity to qualified majority in foreign policy.

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    yeah super majorities are so hard to get seems kinda nuts that they required 100%. could do two thirds or even three fourths. I mean three fourths is really hard to get.

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    Why should anyone have veto? Same goes for UN. The only thing it does is letting few being free to do whatever they want. Would terrorist country like US or Russia decide to nuke some smaller country? They have veto, so why not!

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      11 hours ago

      Or terrorist country like USA decide to kidnap President of another country and steal their Oil, for example.

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      The UN is a diplomatic platform, not a global government. The idea is that if the particular countries couldn’t veto, they’d leave the organisation altogether instead. Having everyone take part in the same diplomatic organisation is the main goal, not producing actionable resolutions.

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        So what is the point of it then? Small country roes something terrible, they get condemned. US murders people without any oversight.

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    Sounds like the powerful nations in the Union, want more hierarchical power, and hierarchical structures,

    “Because we need to be Strong!”

    “The World has Changed, and We must not be Left Behind, we must not Become Weak!”

    Now where have I heard that before…

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      Counterpoint: vetoes are generally anti-democratic.

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        Fascism ---------- Democracy ---------- Anarchy

        . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .⬆️

        . . . . . . . . . . . . .Vetoes are here. . .

        Vetoes are anti-Democratic, in the sense that they protect vulnerable minorities, from powerful majorities.

        Centralization, unification, and empowerment, makes power structures much, much more vulnerable to corruption.

        The ability of parts of the world to impose their will on the weaker, instead of letting them advocate for themselves, is what unavoidably walks the walk to fascism, literally every single time in history.