I was never with ‘it’ and I never cared to be.
I have become the first to advocate for changes. We build the future, there is nothing in the past, the past does not exist.
I still think of Goon as a hockey enforcer. As a Canadian, i’m obligated to.
With their hands & genitals out of frame, those two goons might actually be gooning.
“I just wish she wouldn’t talk so much.”
“That’s like, misogynistic as heck, man!”
“It just ruins the session!”
Goon literally started out as the big nosed henchmen of the sea hag in the Popeye comic strip in the 1930s. It got applied to refer to anti-union fighters very quickly before it became a general purpose word meaning low-level henchman.
As stupid as it was, “Fap,” made sense.
Isn’t it an onomatopoeia? It’s based on the sound “fap fap fap”
😅 Yeah it is.
What’s wrong with jackin’ it?
Or jerkin’ the gherkin 😀
Or crankin’ the hog?
I miss when gay means happy.
Okay I’m not that old but i had a boss who said he’s old enough to remember when gay literally means happy.
For me, my little pet peeve is when society changed the meaning of ironic to mean joking or satirical.
My little pet peeve is when society changed the meaning of ironic to mean joking or satirical.
Satire: noun: wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly.
I would argue irony is PART of satire, not irony is satire.
I agree, but also I just really like Sheevposting.
For me, my little pet peeve is when society changed the meaning of ironic to mean joking or satirical.
Did they ‘literally’ changed it?
Perhaps not officially but i can see scholars eventually yielding to equate irony to mean satire.
I remember growing up when the word ultimate is used everywhere and being equated to “super duper”. I later learned it ultimately (no pun intended) means final. I guess the same will happen to the word irony now also to mean satire.
That’s literally insane
that
I can’t believe you’d use the word like this!
Relevant sketch from A Bit of Fry & Laurie from ~30 years ago.
Yeah, you did hire goons, but you wanted gooners… And who is that to right one supposed to be? How is a maffia boss some dude with what looks like an assassin cloak with “Evil” written on it?
Same
And grok used to mean “understand”, not “nazi shithead propaganda machine”.
TIL grok is an actual word.
And meme used to refer to a unit of cultural information that spreads by imitation, not a funny picture on social media.
In fairness to memes, that definition is still largely true, its just that the common usage tends to refer to this specific form of meme. Like with squares and rectangles, not all anthropological memes are image macros, but all image macro memes are a subset of anthropological memes
This feels like your boss saying you get a company car and then giving you a scale model of a car with the company logo on it.
Memes are absolutely fascinating
It was one of my favorite words.
Such is life
From Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein. I wonder if the estate could sue for damages.
We still have extortion
The X makes it cool 😎
(I see the Futurama reference didn’t work sorry)
It’s only because someone else took the letter X and made it objectively uncool. What a shithead.
True. I forgot about that. Mostly because fuck Twitter and that guy anyway.
Yeah no sorry the origin was always gross. Stranger in a strange land is just heinlein’s weird fetish porn where he justifies old men sleeping with young girls (sound familiar?)
And grok was always a term used by weirdos who thought the book was deep for some crazy reason and wanted to sound like they were part of this insider intellectuals club
What? He gets freaky in some other books, but Stranger is pretty clean for a free love manifesto. Every character I can think of was a full grown adult, I don’t think there’s a single scene even euphemistically depicting an old man sleeping with a young girl. All the sex even referred to was between people of relatively close age.
Grok just means to understand/drink fully. You drink water, and it becomes a part of your body. You understand an idea, and it becomes part of your mind. It’s an efficient word to communicate “understanding something fully enough to functionally incorporate it into your worldview”. It’s not that intellectual.
That’s a rather puritan and skewed perspective. Afaik Stranger in a Strange Land is a very weird book but very tame and not pornographic at all. And it was an important artwork that explored the themes of the 60s sexual revolution. A time where people knew very little about sex and gender and questioned everything.
Please don’t interpret this as a defense of Robert Heinlein’s books as it has been decades since I read them and it sounds like you might be more familiar with them. But weren’t all the women in Stranger in a Strange Land older than Michael Valentine Smith?
Are you confusing the character with Lazarus Long from Time Enough for Love, et al? I think he was thousands of years older than some of his (adult) love interests…
I dunno. I only ever used it as shorthand for being able to understand the basics of something. Also, words can change for the better. So in this case it went
gross -> fine -> gross.
I’m going to keep using it as a verb. If people are dumb enough to assume I’m dumb enough to use xai, that’s not my problem.
Grok was also a support character in the game Paladins.
Do you all remember the movie “The Goonies”? Yeah… so many levels of wrong with this new definition when applied to that movie
So don’t apply it to that movie.
We really need to learn to not apply modern culture and standards backwards.
I dunno. Revenge Of The Nerds had that rape scene played for laughs.
There are old reviews calling that scene out when the movie was new.
edit: I’m looking for the review, but there’s so many modern reviews, that finding a scanned new paper article from 1984 is difficult.
Another example of people knowing Revenge of the Nerds ain’t right was Real Genius. The creative crew was hired by the studio to make their own Revenge of the Nerds, but they hated that movie and made a fixed version.
There’s some interview with the director of Revenge of the Nerds who defended the rapist as a “complex character.” Utter nonsense. The real concern with all this how obviously fine Hollywood was and still is with rape. What they considered normal seeped into the media they produced and normalized it to the masses watching it.
On Goonies, the name is fine and isn’t problematic. I saw Inside Job take a swipe at it for how they treated Sloth, but he was sympathetic and his abusers were his family, the villains. The two things that don’t age too well the was the Japanese People Love Gadgets, which considering it was only the one kid and his father, isn’t that bad. It’s pretty reasonable for a son to have the same hobby as his father and tech otakus are a thing. The second is the body shaming the Chunk character, which when recording the scene, made the director so uncomfortable, he paid for a gym membership for the kid. There’s a lot worse movies from the 80s to watch.
What’s funny about revenge of the nerds is that no one on set, even the girls, thought anything of that plot point at all at the time. It wasn’t until the 2010s that the backlash against it for that scene became a major sticking point.
Not to say it was ever acceptable to impersonate someone else to have sex with a girl. That is rape by deception, but movies did have different standards at the time. For example a lot of movies had scenes were children were put in fairly awkward situations that would be scandalous today but at that time the whole ‘children pretending to be adults’ wasn’t seen as a big deal.
The nostalgia critic in his review of The Chipmunks movie (the 80s one) did bring up that point to explain the mentality behind those scenes at the time.
And there was a time that gay meant happy and a removed was a piece of fire wood. Though the Brits, in their usual word butchery, turned that into fag for cigarette.
Languages change and morph. They are living things. And despite the French’s best effort to try and prevent it.
Did you self-censor? It says “removed” in italics. I don’t know what a piece of fire wood could be called to be so offensive to self-censor
A fagot is a bundle of sticks or firewood, pronounced the same as the slur.
fagot faggot
just checking whether it shows up if i type it. all of bluewing@lemmy.world’s messages just say removed…
yep seems to work. maybe bluewings client
It shows as removed to me still. Maybe not for you. Maybe my instance is censoring it.
If I did, it was by accident.
F@g for cigarette is still used in the UK. So much so that the BBC once used it in the 2010s to refer to cigarettes in a news report.
That is true. Can’t argue that. But isn’t slowly fading away as generations pass?
We used it to mean cigarette before yanks turned it into a slur. You’re the butchers here!
You butchered your own word removed to get fag. And who eats veg? And soccer that the US gets blamed for. We got it from you! Mangling words is what Brits do because they are orally lazy!
*****For those without a sense of humor, this is meant in fun.
So lazy and yet wanting to be respected. Oh we don’t eat cows. That’s for the poors, we eat beef.
Bunch of fuckin tea sippin wankers. But for the brits sake, words ending in re instead of er does look better to me. Theatre over theater. Colour is more colorful of a spelling…
Regarding the gays, didn’t they use to burn gay people which is why the term connected from bundle of sticks to gay people? And probably why we use flamer as well, now that I think about it.
We raise cows. We eat beef even if we are poor, we don’t discriminate. Well, up until the prices these days. It’s going back to being a rich person’s supper. Much to the joy of Vegans. But even cow is better than beouf or it’s variations.
re vs. er? bloody silent letters again. Colour looks like a wannabe upjump word. And there is the whole silent letter thing again.
Those crude heathens probably hanged them the majority of the time vs burn. Wood costs money and takes time. A rope is cheap and faster plus it’s reusable and fits their attitude.
makes languages sound kinda gay, all that morphing and changing.
next you’ll be telling me they have formal versions and informal versions too
Why yes, yes they do. And they best part is, nobody knows why.
It is crazy how words change meaning. Surprising that low level mafia muscle was a Goon and now it somehow relates to the euphoria one experiences eating Fast Food Chinese crab rangoons.
While I love going at a china buffet as much as the next fella - I don’t understand how it became associated with mob henchmen.
I would feel bad for arsenal supporters but they’ve always been a bunch of wankers.
I used to be with it. Then they changed what it was.
Now what I’m with isn’t it
Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary to me.
It’ll happen to YOU!
No way man! I’m gonna keep rockin’ forever…
Stop it! You’re scaring me from 20 years ago!
Australians think “rooting around” means something very different so you have to be careful not to use it in a work context.
