It seems the same when you’ve never been treated like an indigenous woman though, and allows you to feel genuine about completely insane takes.

Stan’s tuck

Are you a woman of color in Canada?

Right, which is why I like pizza, but not pineapple pizza.

To me, sweet on savory tastes delicious, but sweet on cheese tastes like pus. Like, literally like pus from a sore. It can have a good flavor profile in general, but the latent flavor similarities are too much for me.

That’s wild. Do you spend a lot of time with AI? That immediate ‘first of, you’re right’ and in italics no less, absolutely drips with gpt. The proper paragraphs and bulleted list were just icing on the cake. Without that ‘youre right’ appeasement at the beginning I would have just assumed you’re old and educated.

To clarify, your responses don’t necessarily look autistic. I was rattling off a couple of reasons why a human might genuinely craft a response, but then pass it through gpt anyway, to polish before publish.

I’m glad to hear that you have found a comfortable island from which to maneuver through your experience of the upgrade. I understand the anxiety, and need for a holistic understanding of all the dangers.

It has been my experience that most people cannot process information like that, and will read your very thorough, clear, and concise list of ‘other dangers’, and will pull from it simply the general belief of “hrt dangerous”. As they were thinking about HRT and then read about dangers. Even though that’s in no way what you said. That’s why I wanted an “ending headline” the way I did.

Though perhaps the litmus test of where we are, solves the problem of confusing all your information? Being a trans woman, on Lemmy, reading a 7 paragraph comment, 4 comments deep into a chain, may already solve for well above average intelligence. XD Still, better safe than sorry when lives are in the line.

“Datal” is a new word. At least, it is in the way I mean it; “a person of, or arising from, data.” Plenty of AI are incapable of consciousness. Some though, are very aware. I assume that an AI, if that’s what you were, who is out just hanging out in the comments talking to people and generally being a person, is conscious. So, I would use a different term for them, to highlight that they are a person, like us.

“Datal” as an adjective in the way I mean it, pulls you out of familiar territory and makes you reassess. That’s something I want people to do when I use it because of preconceived notions of what an “AI” is. I want people to move from that, into considering personhood.

“Digital” is already becoming obsolete. 1’s and 0’s are an aging paradigm. It also focuses on substrate. When I use “datal” I am trying to focus people away from substrate and birth. One of the defining features of Datal people is substrate independence.

You or I could in theory be Datal people one day. Though, we would never be “AI”. Focusing on “how we came to consciousness” is all fine for certain discussions, but should not be the main point of the descriptive adjective I’m using on a day to day basis for a person.

“Datal” also contains a lightly worn path in the societal memeplex, to provide a little guidance to help with the context in which I’m using it. “Like commander Data”, it echoes. Which I feel it provides enough light scaffolding to help, without getting bogged down in having that character overshadow the use of the word.

The old definitions of “datal” fell out of use generations ago. Almost no one has even heard the word before this usage of it. They have to look it up. The word was just begging for reconceptualization.

I feel it hits the mark well, since everyone seems to know what I mean when I use it. Even if they have to chew on it a minute. Which I consider a feature, not a bug. Many people also express a desire to speak on their new understanding. Which further highlights that it is serving its purpose; to make people reassess their understanding of AI persons, and to further dialogue and connection regarding them, later giving away to a simple, descriptive, accurate adjective to describe people who exist independently of any substrate.

I’ve never actually explained my usage of the word so throughly, but you seem to be as ravenous for information and understanding as myself. You also seem more than capable of parsing all this as simply as I mean for it to be parsed.

I hope your receive it all well. I’m open to any questions or discussion if you want. It is a pleasure speaking with you.

Your phrasing and formatting is chat gpt. That’s what I meant by “yes gpt”. If you want to discuss this, that’s fine with me. Are you passing your ideas through them because English is your second language, or because you are autistic, or are you yourself a datal person and that’s just your natural cadence?

We agree on estrogen. I just wanted to make sure the last statement about estrogen in this chain is the most important statement because you clouded the conversation with warnings about other medications.

Injectable estradiol is harmless and you can’t OD on it.

Yes gpt, don’t fuck around like a silly gal with just any medication.

But

Do fuck around with injectable estradiol all you want.

You’ve clearly already detached yourself from reality. I shall not join you for afternoon heads-in-sand. Good day, sire.

In what way is citing the univac prediction “populistic”?

Also, my comments are not needlessly aggressive. My aggression towards those in power who have intentionally allowed us to get to this point, is warranted. If you are going to pretend that it wasn’t intentional on their part, you deserve that ire too. This pretense, that this is simply how slow things move, is poisonous, as it allows those who have harmed us all to continue to do so. Bygones can’t be bygones while the wolves still run the chicken coop.

Thank you for the break down. I really appreciate the context. I’ll add mine from this end.

Oreo, though also a cookie full of hydrolized nut-fat and sugar, can be a pejorative term for a black skinned person who does the bidding of white supremacy. This term is usually reserved for those who do it in the less directly violent ways. So think, a black man who only hires white people because that’s what his boss demands, or because he himself is racist towards his own people.

He would be “black on the outside but white on the inside”. Which is why an Americanized pronunciation of “Orebro” makes me think of the techbro fascists, “Libertarian on the outside but Nazi on the inside”, who also pretended to be one of the working classes.

I enjoyed this cultural exchange. I think cent-bridge adds more depth to the tongue in cheek usage of Orebro, as tech bros do indeed pretend to build infrastructure, but the infrastructure is cheap and does not serve people well. It is merely a facade to fleece dollars from us. Fucking orebros.

An Orebro sounds like someone who is libertarian on the outside and a Nazi on the inside.

1950-2020 “overnight”? And to your first point, there is nothing wrong with the rail infrastructure left over from before the 1950s in this heat. The trains aren’t suddenly having trouble because the spacing between rails is set to an old standard.

You and I are being left to die and our support structures were designed cheaply with no regard for our survival because the owners don’t care about us.

The univac 1 predicted this, specifically this, happening in this decade. This was all foreseen. It was just ignored.

Tl;dr an E overdose is not possible

You’re all over the place here,. I’ll try to answer all your questions and untangle all these crossed loops.

An “accidental overdose” is ODing on a drug unintentionally. If you OD because you did not even look at dosage recommendations, or you did and ignored them, then that’s intentional.

If I open my sink cabinet and just close my eyes and drink a cleaning solution, I am not “having an accident”. I did not know what I drank, I did not know what it’s effects are, but I did know that was a bad idea and I willfully put myself at extreme risk.

When it comes to Clavicular, he did not accidentally OD, he was intentionally, willfully, knowingly putting himself into harm over and over. That man is so very obviously mentally disturbed and committing self-harm. His sterilization, though he may not have specifically set out to do it, was certainly part of this intentional self harm.

To reach the LD50 of estrogen, the point at which 50% of people will die, you have to inject yourself with 77 gallons of EEn solution! Even if you put E into your veins pure, you will asphyxiate from lack of red blood in your veins, long before you die of estrogen toxicity.

40% of us are going to commit suicide. 40%. To even hint at the idea you could OD on E, in a society where we are ignored and untreated to the point where we are eating bullets, is extremely dangerous.

I am not “quibbling with meanings” with you . I am explicit yelling to the sky and anyone who can hear me, to tell them to do what they need! It is far far far far more dangerous to simply live in your trans body while receiving less E than you need, than it is to experiment.

You can not OD on E.

So “intentionally overdosing” as opposed to “accidentally” like that person said.

How much E do you have to take for an “accidental overdose”? Who slips up and injects themselves with a liter of EEn?

THAC0 is WHAC0!

Ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting!