cross-posted from: https://piefed.zip/c/news/p/1395876/streamer-troll-johnny-somali-found-guilty-on-all-counts-sentenced-to-south-korean-prison-l
Ramsey Khalid Ismael — better known as Johnny Somali, the infamous American streamer arrested in Japan, Israel, and South Korea for his provocative behavior — has been imprisoned in South Korea.
That has to be one of the more punchable faces I have seen. And I do not advocate violence. But he might be n exception.
Apparently he kissed a statue of a woman that was built as a memorial to all the south Korean women that were raped by the Japanese during their colonial rule. In case anyone was wondering what he did to end up in jail.
I’m willing to bet he knew exactly what that statue was a memorial for.
“and performing lap dances on said statue” per the linked article
fuuuuk this guy
too bad it wasn’t where they cane you for stupid shit
I would watch that video
This made my day. He thought he was untouchable and now is in a forced labor camp for 6 months.
Dude is just one of the worst humans.
Forced labor camps in South Korea is just a legal term.
https://www.corrections.go.kr/corrections_eng/1905/subview.do
They’re not cracking rocks with sledgehammers in the desert.
Good, idiots like this deserve to face the consequences of their actions
okay. controversial opinion time
this was all extremely dickish troll behavior but i don’t think A PRISON CAMP is necessarily the most rehabilitative experience. punitive justice doesn’t fucking work and nobody deserves to be put through A PRISON LABOR CAMP regardless of how much of an annoyance they were being
in an ideal world there would mechanisms in place to educate this fuckhead without needlessly traumatizing and brutalizing him. sensitivity training. cultural education. empathy and dignity. true justice that will actually change his behavior
but prison camp? i bet he’s gonna come outta this twice as much an enormous douchebag
traumatizing and brutalizing him
torture
Are South Korean prisons that bad?
Please… he got 6 months for all the shit he pulled. It was so much more than just dickish trolling.
He deserved far more. He got off easy. But it serves two purposes. For one, korea got their message across. Don’t come here to fuck around. And second, they don’t want to pay for him being in their prison.
In an ideal world, people don’t pull this shit to begin with. So we’re already well past an “ideal world scenario”. It’s not this guys first rodeo. These people will never learn unless they face some real, actual consequences.
I have to agree with the last guy. Ideal world, to me, means people can get the support they need to resolve their issues. Ideal isn’t utopia, it’s just as good as we should be doing as a society.
I also think people should get help to resolve their issues.
This guy’s issue is that he’s just an asshole that never faced any real consequences for his actions and therefore thinks it’s ok to go and fuck with people.
This wasn’t his first rodeo. Japan gave him a slap on the wrist and deported him. Clearly it wasn’t enough.
I don’t think expecting people to behave themselves whilst traveling is approaching utopia. That’s just common decency.
Instead of prison where we know people commonly experience rape, abuse, neglect, and forced labor — imagine he was forced to live in some new branch of punitive enforcement that sits between prison and mental asylum. A place where he’s forced to sit with counselors, therapists, psychologists, psychiatrists… imagine he’s treated with dignity as a human, like something is clearly wrong with him, and like we can actually help solve that problem directly for him. He could be sentenced to this place for something like “at most 2 years, unless the authority believes he’s ready earlier.” It’s like a conversion camp, but to help immoral people understand why they might want to act morally within society. Wouldn’t that be a little more ideal than something like prison?
Edit: could even follow-up release with required training for personal finance, hospitality, and the like… to include community service hours and required check-in with a probation officer that works with mental health professionals.
You seem to be under the impression that he’s anything other than just a giant asshole. He walks around streaming himself disturbing and fucking with strangers. He know his actions are wrong. He knows he’s being an asshole. He has admitted as much with no shame. He doesn’t care.
I don’t think what you described would be more ideal than prison. I think prison is exactly the place that was constructed just for cases like his. Maybe this time he will learn.
And hopefully others will think twice before trying to be a copycat
You seem to be under the impression that he’s anything other than just a giant asshole.
Yeah, actually. I don’t believe in essences. Under my personal philosophy, we humans are more like information perturbation machines with extreme sensitivity to initial conditions. It’s close to saying you aren’t anything except the uniquely weighted combination of all your prior experiences, having been processed through the human scope of awareness and memory (if distinguishing the two is even fair here).
That said, nobody is nothing except “just a giant asshole.” I mean that physically, you can’t. You’re stuck in a constant state of becoming something, not being something, which is a necessary consequence of having your human awareness.
The boys deviance from our expectations has to do with his upbringing. We should be able to use specialist services to counterweight that upbringing. And I’d go as far to say, we really should be taking this approach to punishment. Because our current version of just hiding them away in an isolated brick room where nobody except similar deviants and Correction Officers can reach them… that in particular is a rather barbaric approach, in my opinion.
I think prison is exactly the place that was constructed just for cases like his. Maybe this time he will learn.
And what about being “constructed just for cases like this” means it was the right approach? The concentration camps in the holocaust were also constructed for purpose, yet I hope you wouldn’t use the same argument for those.
You’re stuck in a constant state of becoming something, not being something, which is a necessary consequence of having your human awareness.
Yeah well he is in a constant state of becoming an even bigger asshole.
It’s sounds like a beautiful philosophy you have. But it’s just not applicable to how the world looks like.
And no. I would not use the same argument for fucking nazi concentration camps. Which is a really dumb strawman but you know what. Just for you.
They were not constructed to punish and reform. They were constructed to murder people. People whose only crime was not being “German”.
You think they’re similar in any way to a South Korean prison? If not, why even being it up?
Its not about punishing the guy. It is about sending a message that this will not be tolerated. Also, different cultures are different, culturally.
different cultures are different, culturally.
i’m pretty sure torture is just as brutal in every culture. something merely being a cultural difference doesn’t immediately make it worthy of keeping around. for example, should we respect japanese culture’s weird obsession with sexualizing underage characters? NO! it being different than what we’re used to doesn’t automatically make it okay
"I know for a fact that I’m not going to go to jail. Not one day in jail. I’m going to laugh my ass off when all these motherf***ers are saying I’m going for 30 years, 20 years, five years, 10 years. I’m not even going to do one day, bro. They’ll give me a fine and say, ‘Don’t come back to Korea.’ You’re the one that’s going to look so dumb when I don’t get any jailtime or anything. Bro, I’m going to laugh like a f**king villain.
amazing.
Good, these are the types of guys that go “It’s just a prank bro” or “It’s a social experiment” except it isn’t. It’s just you being an inconsiderate jerk.
yeah, the kind that sets you on fire, shoots your wife and sells your children to Epstein, then goes “it’s just a prank bro”.
There’s tons of light-hearted, harmless pranks out there. A good laugh where everyone goes away a little bit happier.
This guy and his ilk on the other hand intentionally antagonise people to the point where they feel the need to defend themselves. Just because someone is out and about in public doesn’t mean they’re a free target for you to be shitty with them. Everyone has - or at least should have - the right to be unbothered in public by leeches like him.
People should also have the right to fight back with extreme prejudice if these morons lay hands on them first.
