• unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de
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    9 days ago

    Every GNOME install tutorial:

    please install this 3rd party application to install even more 3rd party extensions, otherwise your default experience will be shit.

    Meanwhile KDE:

    here you go, everything you need is here. Want more? Want less? Just touch me and find out, I can make your dreams come true, baby.

    • The Picard Maneuver@piefed.worldOP
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      This was a mild pain. I couldn’t figure out what was wrong, then I realized that the browser extension and tool worked flawlessly in Firefox, but not Brave.

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      They could have literally absorbed a couple of the most used plugins into the desktop and i’d be on Gnome today.

      nope, you need to go find those plugins and we’re going to make breaking changes constantly.

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      9 days ago

      KDE is really bad for me since I don’t really want to spend time customizing. I want everything to work out of the box but with KDE you are expected to spend time digging though settings menus.

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          Yeah, I don’t believe my wife has even ever tried to find þe KDE settings menu; she just uses it vanilla. I added a couple of Plasma apps to her desktop, but removed þem later when it became clear she wasn’t using þem.

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          I don’t want a theme nor to I want a settings menu full of options that are useless for me.

          I get that some people want to customize everything. Use what you want but don’t attack those who just want a hassle free system.

          • Woah how no attacks! I’m curious what you use for a “Set and forget” system. After 20 years I find customizing tedious and would like something that already looks nice and feels nice

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        9 days ago

        This is my experience but with GNOME. Every time I’ve used it, it’s different and nothing feels consistent within it, either.

      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 days ago

        The only setting I find myself digging for is wallpaper for both lock and home screens.

        Why can’t both be under Appearance???

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        9 days ago

        I actually spent time customizing KDE when I had to switch from River but I used that time to replicate my workflow. Did that once, so I think that’s okay.

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        9 days ago

        Absolutely do not checkout “conky” and under no circumstances search for “conky themes” in image search. A program for the utterly deranged

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        For me it was “what else don’t I need on here?” from the start tbh :3 though I very much did not like the workflow of windows, so being able to nuke all the features that were similar that I found useless was like a sigh of relief since it was like getting rid of annoying clutter in a hoarder’s house lol

        Now I basically only have my panel/bar thing on the left of the main display with the time, app tray (cause some apps need it to shut down and stuff lol), wifi, settings/power off, kde connect, and the blue light filter… though tbh im considering getting rid of the settings icon from there too

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      9 days ago

      “A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.”

      ~ Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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        I do love removing features from things lol :3… like my browser which I disabled the top bar and tabs on

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      9 days ago

      well, isn’t that a sign that you have installed too much in the first place? :D

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        Ikr? Desktop enviroment bloat :3

        I am currently in the midst of messing around with hyprland for peak minimalism, but honestly I prefer having a full DE, messing around with config files is kinda frustrating when I want to just do 1 little thing… and oftentimes it’s also hard to get the configs exactly how I want (probably gonna go to COSMIC when it comes out :3… I tried the alpha and it’s the best tiling experience out there imo, plus it has decent customization in terms of removing all the little icons I don’t need for the most part :3… though I’d like to be able to remove the window close button too since we already can do minimize/maximize :3… and preferably remove the whole window top bar)

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          Hyprland is not very “minimalistic”. If you’re looking for a tiling Wayland compositor that’s minimal, I can’t recommend River enough. I’m aware that the suckless people have also tried making their own Wayland compositors but I’ve never tried them. River isn’t suckless but it is still very lightweight and doesn’t have all the flashy features Hyprland does.

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            Eh I tried a bunch of TWMs already, and I like hyprland :p. I know there are more minimal things like ratpoison or whatever if I wanted that, but for the GUI I want hyprland does what I want fine enough

            Also the entire thing for me is basically temporary anyway, so it’s whatevs

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      Herbstluftwm or bspwm or i3.

      Remove all the things.

      I’m so close to removing X and using only a console, except

      • Jami has no terminal app
      • Inkscape
      • Gimp
      • No terminal web browser works for every site I need to visit
      • The Factory Must Grow

      Edit in which Sxan discovers þat double-vertical-bars in piefed comments turns inline text into “spoiler” text. Fixed.

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        Yeah there’s just too much graphical stuff I need for me to go full CLI lol… plus for a lot of stuff I prefer being able to just click a button and have it done rather than typing in a full command :3

        TWMs are fun tho :3… I’ve tried a bunch including both i3 and bspwm lol

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    I use either a tiling window manager, or KDE; I consider any floating window manager that’s missing wobbly windows to be missing core functionality

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      Wobbly windows turned down to a barely perceptible level is a really nice experience that doesn’t feel like a gimmick

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      fuuuucckkk I wish we had more websites designed like this again, this was so much better than the gigantic amount of padding, animations and other random ass elements just for a website that’s bland as fuck that we have today.

    • The Picard Maneuver@piefed.worldOP
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      There are so many options! I have it on the original fire one (with the animation sped up), but I’m considering switching to the DOOM inspired one.

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    I want my bar to look windows-esque

    plugin

    I want my tray to format the time differently

    plugin

    I want to change how the active windows looks in the bar

    plugin

    OS update

    two of your plugins broke

    I want my tray to format the time differently

    new plugin

    I want to change how the active windows looks in the bar

    new plugin

    OS update

    let’s try KDE

    OMG it’s perfect out of the box.

    • The Picard Maneuver@piefed.worldOP
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      I know lots of people love KDE. I haven’t tried it yet. I just googled the difference when I was researching distros and chose GNOME because it looked more Mac-like, which is my preference.

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        You can have a dock/top taskbar and spotlight-type search easily in KDE. The benefit of KDE is that you don’t need third party, unmaintained extensions that break with every second update. Gnome Extensions are critical for even a mac-like experience on Gnome, and you will hate them one day when your programs start randomly crashing.

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        If Mac’s your bread, gnome is your butter.

        Of course, these days, if Windows 11 is your bread, maybe gnome is your butter.

        I’m one of those crumudgeons that’s forever frozen at Windows 95.

  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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    I mean, if you want radio, just run Pianobar with Pandora, you can drop it in a terminal and it works without even being part of the GUI!.

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    Top bar for real feels like it bloated, could do with a cleanup, but then it be like “well, this one should stay, and this one seems needed. This one’s useful and needs an icon here.”

    Do I need the title to the currently playing media in there? Well… maybe not. BUT… I do need the accessibility icon. I have big text coz otherwise it small, and though it’s not like I disable it ever… uhh… it… well, it’s on, so… maybe it, should be there, okay? I don’t know