As of revision version #85, OpenStreetMap has the following tags for Golfo de México:
- name:en Gulf of Mexico
- official_name:en-US Gulf of America
As an american. I want the option to display it as Gulf of Mexico. Like it’s always been before that fat sack of shit was trying to win points wit hracists to distract them from the hand reaching up their ass to fuck them.
As an American and long time OSM contributor, I also vote extremely no on Gulf of America.
Also no on renaming New Mexico.
Wait there’s talk of renaming New Mexico‽
after some digging
Oh thank god it was just a joke
Oh thank god it was just a joke
for now
I’m hoping that my comment doesn’t age like milk
Next month:
- Texas -> Roof Tiles
- El Paso -> The Pass
- The Alamo -> The Poplar
- Santa Fe -> Holy Faith
- Nevada -> Snowed
- Colorado -> Red
- Palo Alto -> High Stick
- Nogales -> Walnuts
- Los Angeles -> The Angels
- …
Paper companies would make a killing profit this period.
Baton Rouge -> Red Stick
- Nogales -> Walnuts
How about you rename deez (wal)nutz
Sorry, had to
New Mexico? You mean “South America”, right?
(Everything south of the Rio Grande is now “Mexico”. Except for the
PanamaAmerica canal.)But you couldn’t tell, could you. 😂 I’m keeping this joke alive as long as I can, until Trump gets wind of it and actually does it.
“Petition to rename New Mexico to Freexico, and Mexico to Cartelistan”
So now that is in the hands of the folks who use the OSM data. It’s in a somewhat exotic tag, so by default any map that uses OSM will still show Gulf of Mexico, unless they actively intervene to show Gulf of America. So if you see an OSM based map showing the latter, you know they made that choice consciously.
They could add a snowflake option that when activated makes it display as Gulf of America.
A checkbox labelled “Triggered” on the phone.
As an American I have to second this. Please don’t fall in line to lick trump’s boot
Literally no one ever called it “Gulf of America” until January. I appreciate the generally thoughtful conversation on OSM, but there’s no reason that declaration should be taken seriously.
name:en: Gulf of Mexicostupid_name:en-US-confederate-bootlicker: Gulf of Amerikkka
That should suffice.
OSM has a tag for everything, wow 😇❤️
As I explained to Google (from Dan McClellan) _references do not assert from fiat what things are called. A dictionary definition is not an official definition but what a word means or what a thing is called at the moment.
Most of the world calls it the Golfo de México or in English speaking regions, the Gulf of Mexico. Changing all the maps of the world won’t change this.
Now granted, a state chooses what to call itself (such as the changing of The Ukraine to simply Ukraine but that is the incorporated entity that is the sovereign nation of Ukraine.
As the US does not have sovereign control of the Gulf of Mexico, it doesn’t get to declare the name of a region of international waters.
This whole thing just makes the GOP, MAGA, the Trump administration and by proxy the people of the United States xenophobic and barbaric as hell. It’s not a good look.
As an American, I will refuse to call it fuckass gulf of america.
IDK, the fuckass kind of gives it a ring, you know? Maybe fuckass Gulf of Mexico?
… what’s a fuckass?
Coming from lemmynsfw I would have figured you might know? Let me know if you learn anything in your research
It’s a Donnie Darko reference. I’m surprised anyone cares who comes from what instance.
I’m voting for Dukakis
Nah, I don’t care who comes from what instance but when it comes to anal references, I figured I’d make a bad joke, haha
Reference comments should stay on reddit.
Only if they detract from a discussion of substance.
Search for ‘anal’ in your Lemmy instance
Mmm mmm…
It’s just slang. I searched it on Startpage and it gives the definition : “used alone or as a noun or verb in various phrases to express annoyance, contempt, or impatience” which sounds right to me. I’d link it but I can’t find where it sourced the definition.
I got your Donnie Darko reference.
I dunno. That could be kinda snappy on a map. “Ok, let’s see, here we have the North Atlantic, the Sargasso Sea, and the Fuckass Gulf of America.”
it was never “the ukraine”, russia just called it that because the ukraine was a region to them… like the great plains is to america…
Russian doesn’t even have definite articles, to them it was always just Ukraine.
Its just a distraction meant to throw people off the smell of the real crimes they are committing. Call it the gulf of dogshit i dont care
Fun fact, per the executive order, the whole body isn’t being renamed the Gulf of America, only the “U.S. Continental Shelf area bounded on the northeast, north, and northwest by the States of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida and extending to the seaward boundary with Mexico and Cuba”. That is, less than the northern half, as indicated in this map: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_ECS_Regions_2023.png
I hope this is due to someone intentionally wording it to sound correct, but in reality being extra screwy so that they look like fools.
That’s like… slightly more reasonable than I thought it was. But it’s still deeply fucking stupid.
Just like I never called french fries freedom fries, I will never call the gulf of mexico the gulf of america
Hey. Your all blinded by this nothing and elon is getting contracts of money he dismantled from government. Congrats americans. Hope another cou try can put us in our place.
It’s possible to know about this while also knowing that extreme fuckery is occurring. But its not like your average Lemmy user can do anything to stop either.
thank you, enlightened one… we are all forgetting every other crazy thing they’re doing and focusing exclusively on map apps….
we’re all so blind, thank you for helping us see!What specifically do you think that OSM maintainers should be doing to stop this instead of maintaining OSM?
Also coup has a p.
no doubt it’s all been squirrelled away into crypto. They’ll have fun trying to hold the guy accountable. Oh wait, no, accountability is for the poors.
Anyway, enjoy the sound of the keys jingling, folks
Let’s rename Montezuma’s Revenge to Trump’s Revenge while we are at it.
Can we poll the community for alternate names that would enrage Trump? If it’s gonna change, let’s have fun with it.
Gulf of Veganism and Low Cholesterol
Gulf of Checks and Balances
Gulf of 34 Felony Counts
Gulf of Cheetos (let’s get those sweet advertising dollars while we’re at it)
Gulf of Insecurity
Kamala-Clinton Gulf
Gulf of Musk
How about Gulf of they/them?
Gulf of 34 Felony Counts
We could tell these fuckers that Trump broke 34 rules and to Google “trump rule 34”, but given a) Trump’s history in the sexual department, and b) the fact most of them will actually jack off to this, I don’t think it’s a good idea
How is it the “official name” even for en-US? Trump isn’t the be all and end all of naming things. Every single rational, thinking person in the USA, and many, many people who aren’t so rational (Trump voters), still call it the Gulf of Mexico and always will. Official, my ass.
The early proposal of alt-name: en-US=Gulf of America seemed the most logical.
Holy hell, I hate this cursed timeline.
Because the United States Board on Geographic Names now says so, as demanded by Trump by Order No. 3423. They are the government body that defines what places are officially called.
But unless you are a US federal employee, as Nick Fury once said, “I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it’s a stupid-ass decision, I’ve elected to ignore it.”
Why is this even being discussed?
Are they discussing renaming Taiwan to China as well?
The name itself can’t really change in OSM because it’s based on what someone “on the ground” would see, i.e. street signs, etc.
Previous OSM naming conflicts have usually been areas of disputed land where some group de-facto controls the land/people and therefore the street signs, and therefore the OSM ‘name’ tag.
That’s not going to work very well for a big region of mostly international waters between several countries.
Taiwan is the island, also known as Formosa, and it is ruled by the Republic of China. Separately, but still part of that state, there’s the autonomous mainland provinces, calling themselves the People’s Republic of China, a rebel faction which somehow steadfastly refuses to declare independence.
Looking at it this way, I’d call the “mainland” part West Taiwan
Nah West Taiwan is the western half of Taiwan. It’s an island, not a state, just as Denmark is not Jutland, or Spain, or Portugal (fight!) Iberia.
You’re getting downvoted but you ain’t wrong.
Are you taking about Formosa or the Republic of China?
For the next four years I also propose renaming en_us to an-us.
derp_us
Aragonese?
@zlatiah Best comment in this thread: " Can we retag Trump’s golf courses as Golf of Mexico? " 🤣
Honestly, I think that we the people need to assert our own right to name things more often. I don’t recall the latest name of the Brewers stadium in Milwaukee, for example. Whatever company that paid to have them put its name on the front didn’t pay me. It’s “the new County Stadium” as far as I’m concerned.
(I have no philosophical objection to the name, by the way. Reps of the new company can DM me, we can work out a deal.)
Ask any illinoisan what the tallest tower in Chicago is and you won’t hear the name that’s on the building. And good for them
An acquaintance helped close a deal for a stadium naming rights. It had been a multi year process, the negotiations were crazy, the company deliberated forever trying to decide if this was the best way to increase brand recognition and man that shits expensive.
So like a shit head that thinks he’s funny I started calling the stadium by its sponsor like 3 sponsors ago when I was around them. You could see the anxiety spike when I did it.
Your comment made me think of that. It’s hilarious. They would have had a fucking breakdown if they had heard someone say that out loud.
Frankly I agree. From my personal experience, every single native Chicagoan has been calling that particular building “Sears Tower”. Even though the name has been officially changed for more than 15 years by this point…
And I thin OSM actually handled this quite well! The original Sears Tower name is still available as an “alt_name” tag on OSM as well, I just double-checked and yep it’s still searchable on the map
There’s a county cricket ground near me that was named the Hampshire Rose Bowl when it was first opened 25 years ago. In that time it has been renamed a number of times in honour of a selection of insurance companies I’d never heard of before, but to pretty much everyone in the area it’s the Rose Bowl.
So yeah.
It is the gulf of mexico. The whole thing is just president musk and vp trump power tripping. Also a distraction from other, much worse thjngs happening right now.
Personally I’d prefer it if they spent all four years renaming things to Mount Hitler or whatever instead of doing anything actual.
If it was left up to Trump he probably would. I don’t think he’s entirely sane at this point, unfortunately there are plenty of people manipulating things behind the scenes and they do have plans.
That’s what my dog does.
He tears into the couch in one side of the house to get you annoyed, then runs to eat cat litter, then runs upstairs to take the kid’s toys.
Do enough chaos to get something and tire us out.
Idk if this is true, but someone brought up it might be related to Biden putting in an order to not allow new drilling in the gulf of Mexico, so to get around it Trump and Co Just renamed it.
Again, no idea if this is true, haven’t had a chance to look it up since I heard it an hour ago or so, but it sounds plausible lol
Yeah but couldn’t he just resend the law. I can’t see why renaming it would be required, also if that’s true, what a stupid loophole.
