• dumbass@leminal.space
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    We have better applicators now that can cure a plethora of fascists in one swift move.

    • 🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴@vegantheoryclub.orgOP
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      Oh my god, it is almost like people use memes to communicate ideas that are different than the original source.

      Not all violence is equal. The only way to stop a Nazi is to bash them. If you deny that, you’re a liberal which is a fascist collaborator. You’re going to sleep walk your way into Nazism.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        The only way to stop a Nazi is to bash them.

        There’s another, more effective and less violent and non-solipsistic way. A great deal of the power of fascism stems from their economic position. Guys like Zuck and Elon are dangerous because of their enormous wealth, not merely because of their toxic political views.

        And since you can’t just Luigi Mangione the problem of economic elitism, you need collective action at an economic level to starve out the beast.

        Incidentally, the “starve the beast” strategy is a conservative approach historically espoused and employed by Grover Norquist, Tom DeLay, and now (via the guise of DEI) Bill Ackman, Peter Thiel, and Donald Trump. Its incredibly effective, because it eliminates the ability of the opposition to effectively organize and administer large groups of professionals.

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      From his Wikipedia page

      Hitchcock was too young to enlist when the First World War started in July 1914, and when he reached the required age of 18 in 1917, he received a C3 classification (“free from serious organic disease, able to stand service conditions in garrisons at home … only suitable for sedentary work”).[37] He joined a cadet regiment of the Royal Engineers and took part in theoretical briefings, weekend drills and exercises. John Russell Taylor wrote that, in one session of practical exercises in Hyde Park, Hitchcock was required to wear puttees. He could never master wrapping them around his legs, and they repeatedly fell down around his ankles.

      So, none.

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          I can dislike two things at once.

          Do you normally shoot everyone you dislike?

          Fuck tankies, fuck fascists.

          Yes, yes. We know who you are.

          The Radical Centrist that goes to war with every other corner of the political spectrum and ends up turning on itself. Ur-Liberalism. The snake eating its own tail of political thought.

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          Again, pivoting from an anti-fascist meme to add an anti-Communist message is deeply silly, especially considering it was the Red Army that saved the world from the Nazis by doing 80% of the entire combat in Europe in WWII against the Nazis.

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              The USSR was Socialist, as is Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, etc. These countries were and are built and run by Marxists, it’s safe to consider these hundreds of millions to be Communists. What “Comminists” are you thinking of that are “true Communists” that disqualifies the hundreds of millions who work to build Socialism in real life?

              • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
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                Marx himself thought Marxists (which existed already in his lifetime) were nutties. Anyone who actually understands what Marx is saying knows that no actual revolution will result in communism. Communism will only be achieved through capitalism ie when human labor ceases to have value, only then will communism will be achieved. So in my view, the real communists (whether they know it or not) are those working to automate the world.

                None of these Stalinist tyrannies represent communism. They are inherently anti-communist as they were not really egalitarian but rather Oligarchic.

                Now go fuck yourself tankie.

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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                  Marx didn’t think those that agreed with him were “nutties,” he didn’t like that people were adopting the mantle of “Marxist.” Secondly, Communism can only be achieved through revolution. It is Captialism that prepares the conditions for revolution, but without revolution the Proletariat never wrests control of Capital, as they sink further and further into destitution as the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall reaches its limits.

                  The AES states, where the Proletariat has managed to take control, are building towards a collectively owned and planned economy. This is not yet Communism, as Communism is necessarily global, but it is Socialist and those countries like Cuba that are working on that understanding are the Marxists and Communists building Communism in the real world. Further, wealth disparity massively shrank in AES countries and their economies are more democratic than in Capitalist nations.

                  I really don’t think it makes any sense to consider tech billionaires automating labor as “real Marxists” but those studying Marxism and building Socialism as “fake.”

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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          Calling someone a tankie != anticommunist.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

          The term “tankie” was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.

          The term has extended to describe people who endorse, defend, or deny the actions of communist leaders such as Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong. In recent times, the term has been used across the political spectrum and in a geopolitical context to describe those who have a bias in favour of anti-Western states, authoritarian states, or states with a socialist legacy, such as Belarus, Cuba, China, Syria, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela.

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          The word “tankie” is usually used against anyone that expresses at minimum a moderate level of support for AES countries, so yes, it’s purely for anticommunism. I’ve even seen self-described Anarchists and liberals called tankies, it’s a term that has no real meaning other than “Communism bad.”

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              Supporting AES does not mean blindly upholding every action taken by every leader of every AES country. The “tankies” that do so are made of straw in the minds of liberals. Rather, it is usually those that denounce “tankies” that make a dogmatic error of reducing AES countries purely to their leaders, and not the hundreds of millions of Marxists and Communists that work and run the AES countries.

              Even the CPC’s official stance on Stalin and Mao is “70% good, 30% bad” each.

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                When someone does tankie things, it is valid to call them a tankie. Quacks like a duck and all that…

                Also, I had to google ‘AES communism’ to figure out wtf you were talking about. American Education Service? Advanced Encryption Standard? AES the energy company? Define your acronyms and abbreviations, everybody. AES stands for ‘actually existing socialism’ in this context.

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                  I don’t know what “does tankie things” means. The people that think Stalin, Mao, etc have done nothing wrong whatsoever are practically non-existent. The closest to genuinely evil “communists” would be the Gonzaloists that defend the Peruvian Shining Path, and frequently Pol Pot as well, but even suggesting that it’s a great thing that the USSR provided free and high quality healthcare and education gets you labeled a tankie instantly.

                  AES refers to Actually Existing Socialism, yes, it’s an acronym used for states like Cuba that have Socialism in the real world. Marxists use it frequently when talking about existing examples of Marxist application, without having to list every country that has some form of Socialism in place.

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        We’re converging towards Lemmy doing the Matt Christman 2016 election night “Kill yourself and everyone around you!” line, but entirely unironically.