Summary

Sen. Bernie Sanders urged President Biden to “very seriously” consider pre-emptive pardons for members of the Jan. 6 Committee after Trump threatened to jail them.

Trump has also pledged to pardon convicted Jan. 6 rioters, calling their imprisonment unjust.

Sanders condemned Trump’s remarks as authoritarian, while some Republicans, including Sen. Lindsey Graham, disagreed with Trump’s proposal.

Committee members, including Adam Schiff and Bennie Thompson, defended their work, calling Trump’s comments an attack on democracy and the rule of law.

  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    Why do people think Trump would abide by pardons? He and many of the politicians supporting him have stomped all over tradition, procedure, and legal mandates.

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      He’ll get the supreme court to allow a sitting president to cancel pardons but for some reason he’ll be the only one that applies to if a Democrat tries to use that power at some point.

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        A Democrat would say some shit about bipartisanship or something and never use that power and then get walked all over and allow the country to suffer.

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        He’s a living rubber stamp. What else does he need to do? Do you think any ideas come up with before and during his presidency are his own?

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    The problem with this plan is that you can never get all edge cases. It’s almost like Pascal’s Wager. Pardons should go away entirely, IMO. If there is a problem with the justice system, fix the justice system. None of this selective amnesty shit.

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    How about urging Biden to preemptively protect women, reproductive rights, LGBTQIA+, immigrants, and any other vulnerable population? THAT’S how Biden can redeem himself, if he even cares.

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      What do you mean? Is it going too far to preemptively pardon the Death Corps? They are such nice people! Pardoning just in case, I’ll take no further questions.

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        I’m not even thinking of that. Death squads tend to wind up dealt with by reconstruction tribunals. I’m more worried about people like Oliver North, Roger Stone, J. Edgar Hoover, and Roy Cohn. As well as the entirety of the Nixon administration and campaigns.

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    Definitely, it would at least establish a precedent if they aren’t held, which is something Trump would then not be able to abuse.

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      Good point. It’s win/win (so Biden probably won’t do it).

      But either they hold, and we don’t have to watch these people get put in prison or possibly executed for doing their jobs correctly, or they don’t, and it sets the precedent that pre-emptive pardons don’t work, and therefore they’re not an option for Trump.

      Not that precedent has stopped these people before…

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    Right now, Biden could remove Trump, and the Supreme Court ruled he could not be held accountable while president.

    I bet this post will be used against me as proof of a crime in the future. We’ll just have to wait and see.