• piskertariot@lemmy.world
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    Classic actions of a horrible company doing horrible things.

    “It’s for the safety of the children”

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      29 days ago

      YouTube soon to update terms of service to include “We must secure the existence of ads and a future for youtube-watching children”

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      My main problem is that freetube perfectly remembers video position, without fail.
      YouTube always fails

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          Some said it helps adding a tile to ublpfk, it didn’t the only thing that helped was a plugin.

          Than again, I could use a chromium browser for it, they seek to work better

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        I’ve had the same problem, in my case it was that my adblocker was blocking the domains used to track video position, which are mildly tracking-ish in nature.

        *.video-stats.l.google.com *.s.youtube.com

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            i’ll do some testing later myself, but that’s good to know. i got those domains from random reddit threads after having had enough of the issue, and i’m pretty sure i tested if either one worked on its own but the memory is so fuzzy i’m just making up false memories. just a minute earlier i was convinced i didn’t actually do any testing.

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          unfortunately, this rule had little to no impact on youtubes ability to remember video positions

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      I don’t like having a google account that has google tracking any video I watch. Also… the recommendations are more addicting and with Tubular (NewPipe fork) and Freetube I just imported my subs and follow them a bit. Never had to deal with the shitty youtube website once. Also, ReVanced still uses the proprietary YouTube apk and I prefer free software on my phone

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        You’re worried about Google watching what videos you watch, presumably while signed into your Google account on an android phone?

        Unless you’re running Graphene that level of abstraction isn’t much in their way.

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          On LineageOS build with no Google Service, download using Tubular/NewPipe/Seal/etc. Play on VLC. Makes for a better privacy experience.

          Lots of trouble to build, but worth it. The lack of spam and other spooky things is telling.

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            Thanks for giving further info, there are lots of people that want more privacy but are uninformed on the depths of what’s required.

            I’m looking at moving to Graphene on my P7P but I don’t have the time to spend migrating my data and losing access to my digital only debit cards among other things.

            My server among many other services is running immich for photos, Syncthing + Keepass for passwords but there are many more services I’ll need to spin-up to feel at ease leaving the Google ecosystem.

            Even Tailscale I want to migrate to Headscale / Netbird. I’ll eventually get everything where I want it but there are only so many hours in the day, and so much coffee and ritalin I can consume before it’s two sleeps to Christmas.

            It’s baffling even with something simple like a DNS ad blocker - the volume of communication from my partners Windows laptop, her iPhone and my Android phone being blocked with no loss of functionality. I don’t want to look at wireshark.

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          I use /e/OS. Its an ungoogled android rom. Anyways, even if you use stock android privacy isn’t black and white. Any bit of privacy you can bear to preserve is a step worth preserving. Theres a difference in google getting some of your data or all of your data. Stock youtube is also too much focused on retention maximation for me. I find some creators interesting but think the addictive nature of youtube is toxic

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      Never got revanced to work on my phone (in spite of reading all the documentation and online advice, doing literally everything that was supposed to make it work short of jail breaking or changing to Graphene) and as for ublock, I use it but I prefer YouTube on a dedicated client to a browser tab since I usually have far too many of the latter open at a time…

      Besides, unlike revanced, NewPipe worked perfectly out of the box and it seems like PipePipe still does, so…

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        have you tried revanced manager? i typically just download revanced manager, pop over to apkmirror and get the recommended version (in this case 19.43.41), downloading the v8 package, going back into revanced manager and clicking storage, selecting the apk, and then letting it run. if you select the custom branding patch you don’t have to uninstall the original youtube.

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          have you tried revanced manager

          Yep. And if I hadn’t, that would be the first advice the documentation would give me lol

          typically just download revanced manager, pop over to apkmirror and get the recommended version (in this case 19.43.41), downloading the v8 package, going back into revanced manager and clicking storage, selecting the apk, and then letting it run. if you select the custom branding patch you don’t have to uninstall the original youtube

          That’s what I did, but it refused to patch. Tried every possible thing, but it just refused to work.

          NewTube, on the other hand, worked perfectly immediately.

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            Did you make sure to turn on the “GmsCore Support” patch? (I think it used to be called “MicroG Support”.) You have to enable that patch on unrooted devices in order for the app to work.

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                Did you make sure you have several GBs of free memory on the device while patching? At least until recently, ReVanced Manager would throw an error if it ran out of memory, and it actually needed (if I recall correctly) around 8 GB of free memory in order to finish the patching process or it’d throw one of several errors, depending on where in the process it ran out of memory.

                Supposedly they’ve fixed this issue with the latest update to ReVanced Manager, which included a new patching process, but I haven’t had a chance to test it.

                Edit: Also, did you use the default patch selections? While there are other patches available to select and deselect, using anything other than the default selections can sometimes make things a little unstable. I once ran into an issue with patching, and the solution was just… reset the patch selection to just use the default patches. And it suddenly worked.

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            You sure you weren’t downloading the APK bundle? Revanced can’t patch those

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        I remember revanced stopped working and I ended up getting premium because it wouldn’t work on iPad anyway.

        Are there any alternatives now?

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          Well I’ve been using NewPipe until the above incident and now I’m trying out a fork of it called PipePipe. On my tv, I’m using SmartTube

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            I haven’t had this issue with newpipe yet but maybe it’s because I’m just watching video game facts and ROM hack videos for games I’ll never play.

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      How does Revanced even work.

      I mean, newpipe is just download install and it works.

      Anyone have a tutorial?

      (Also how would Revanced bypass age restricted if you need to sign in before youtube even sends the video over to you? Does Revanced use burner accounts like Aurora store?)

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    I try to use YT as little as possible these days. Used to stream a lot of indie music, not talking indie radio guitarists no I mean the REAL indie basement dwellers, but since YT took away play-all buttons I moved to SoundCloud. Just type in a song you know in the genre you want and let it autoplay.

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        Well the first roadbump you’ll run into is that I’ve never heard of grooveshark. Power to you, those on the Fediverse who persevere will benefit immensely during these early adoption years.

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          Well darn, guess I should have said Spotify. Grooveshark predated Spotify and was centralized but allowed uploading and sharing.

          Soulseek is another a great place for sharing and talking about music, its one of the oldest p2p network that’s still active.

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            Might be internet generational. I’ve never had a spotify account, but I lived on Grooveshark back in the day

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    Protect the children: “Hey kids, have you heard about raid shadow legends? Why not go borrow mum’s credit card because it’s free.”

    Fun insider fact - the gambling industry learned things from that game.

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      To wit: PipePipe is the only one that works for me now to get past the “log in to confirm you’re not a bot” viewing any video. Recent PP releases allow you to log into your YT account (which will also solve this age problem), my ISP uses CGNAT and my IP is shared by millions and changes frequently triggering the YT bot filter for every video. :-/

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    I had this happen recently with Freetube and the, very strangely, age restricted new trailer for a Darktide update. Hope the big brains figure out a work around. Even invidious fallback wouldn’t play it.

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    there’s userscripts you can get for adguard for windows and tampermonkey that allow you to watch age-restricted stuff without being signed in.

    Why can’t invidious and piped do that?

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      OP is a screenshot from newpipe, they are very rigid on adding those things, that’s why you need to download other forks to get sponsorblock for example.

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      Just FYI. Grayjay is only source available, but not open source like newpipe and its forks.

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      I think greyjay is the best YouTube app. I gave up on Newpipe the moment Firefox for Android reenabled extension support. I didn’t like the fact that Newpipe needed a fork just for Sponsor block support.

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        Well, with newpipes forks are possible in order to implement controversial features, with Grayjay they are unlikely because of its non-open-source license.

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          At least its plugins, which are what needs to be regularly updated as platforms change, are open source. I imagine someone will clean-room reverse-engineer the core app and make an open source one that uses the plugins.

          Also, Louis Rossmann said they only reserve the right to go after forks to prevent a situation like all the shady ad-ridden NewPipe ones flooding Google Play Store.

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            At least its plugins, which are what needs to be regularly updated as platforms change, are open source. I imagine someone will clean-room reverse-engineer the core app and make an open source one that uses the plugins.

            Reverse-Engineering and reimplementing something is a lot of work, especially if it is a moving target that is still actively developed. I don’t expect anyone to do it.

            Also, Louis Rossmann said they only reserve the right to go after forks to prevent a situation like all the shady ad-ridden NewPipe ones flooding Google Play Store.

            That is some kind of hand wavy reasoning that might come from someone that could be sponsored by them. Louis should do better than taking any company by their word and promises. And spreading FUD about NewPipe (and by extension all of Open Source software) is also a straw man argument. An untrustworthy software repository is not a argument against the open source software application, but against the software repository and their maintainers.

            If you are concerned with that, you should stop using Google Play store.

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      The same way porn sites have worked since the 90s. Honor system.

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    It happens on Youtube Music on the web also.

    I don’t sign in on my work computer because last time I paid for food my Google account hijacked my chrome browser.

    So now I simply can’t listen to whole albums because some songs are age restricted

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      It’s been a while since I used chrome, but I used to use incognito to avoid that from happening. You can log into your services in the incognito session and when you’re done and close the incognito session, the temporary folder with your session stuff will get deleted, leaving the normal chrome browser unaffected.

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      In this case it was an updated version (even though I specifically searched for the original, but that’s a seperate issue) of Michael Jackson’s They Don’t Care About Us video with some graphic images of war and starvation.

      I think it’s like this with all age-gated videos, though 😮‍💨

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    9xbuddy works fine to download age-restricted videos. It’s probably not FOSS, though.