I’d love for a bearded trans man to walk in there, look her dead in the eye and tell her not to worry, he has a vagina.
The law binds but does not protect us.
This is messed up. Do they not want trans people to use any bathrooms?
They’d really just prefer it if we didn’t exist
Hot take I know, but that’s a bit fucked
Correct, the goal is to eliminate trans people from public life.
They literally want trans genocide.
This is messed up. Do they not want trans people
No, no they do not.
Republicans will use anything to generate outrage and distract from the constant war they wage on the working class
The biggest winners of this US elections are the corporations
we’ll see. Media companies, gas companies and private prisons for sure win here, other corporations may suffer if they enact most of these policies:
Invading cities with the US military will destroy real estate markets. My guess is this is a bluff.
Rounding up immigrants (lets not pretend they’ll be checking documents) will destroy agricultural corps and one of the US’ largest exports
Tariffs will drastically damage consumer spending and costs for electronics (which will indirectly hike data center costs).
Tax cuts will radically increase inflation again.
I know it’s not a very hip position right now but I think the incoming administration will turn out to be mostly hype. They’ll get bogged down trying to get the blue states to comply with some insane piece of legislation on something with no federal jurisdiction, and blame their failure to do anything on that.
I’m sorry, but that sounds like copium to me. Why would this fascist authoritarian regime be less successful than all of the other big fascist authoritarian regimes in history? They don’t care about the law.
They already had to drop Gaetz as a nominee. Likely because too many R senators said nah.
While I’m not going to say this will happen with all the other crazy proposals. If some Copium helps us get through the next 2 years minimum, and we can stay in the fight, maybe we can hold on to this place.
Even fentanyl works on pain for a while, let’s just hope the country isn’t in hospice yet.
I instinctively downvoted this because ‘copium’ is one of those load words that carries distain without engagement. Why? Because they usually are unsuccessful. They usually fizzle out. Some authoritarian regimes achieve weight and have a war, but that’s not always the case. UKs govt was borderline insane for, like, 8 years and that’s kinda mellowed now. France has had its flirtations, but it never really stuck. And ultimately I’m an optimist. And the word ‘copium’ is just short hand for ‘optimists are naive and wrong’ which… feels unwarranted to me
I’m sorry, but I feel that optimism, in this case, is both naïve and wrong.
That is not a word I generally throw freely around.
Yeah well fair play. I think you’re cynical, wrong, and actively increasing the probability of your unwanted outcome coming to pass by your language, so I guess we both just very strongly disagree with each other. But at least we can do it politely so at least there’s some hope.
I mean they have the presidency, the house, the Senate, and the supreme court, gonna be difficult to lay the blame.
They had the same situation the first two years of Trump’s first presidency. The blame did no good.
Mostly what saved us before was the incompetence, and that’s already rearing its head again. Stupid thing to rely upon, though.
Fair point
I’m thinking similarly and that the Democrats will use the Senate filibuster to block as many things as they can. Of course, conservatives may end up changing the filibuster and ram through all their terrible policies, then they’d only have until the midterms to pass all the crazy stuff they want to pass. Unless they figure out an illegitimate way to stay in power and go full fascist authoritarian on us. No matter what, the next few years are gonna be terrible.
Rounding up immigrants (lets not pretend they’ll be checking documents) will destroy agricultural corps and one of the US’ largest exports
Not if they take advantage of private prison structures in which prisoners are already paid like 0.15 cents to do agricultural labor in places like georgia.
The rest of this shit is maybe hype depending on the level at which it actually ends up hurting corporations. Elon’s part of the circle because he wants the tariffs because he can’t compete with BYD in any market they’ve been competing in, and he wants to foreclose things like the EV tax credits so nobody else can come up and usurp his position at the top of the market. I’m sure there are plenty of other tariffs that american corporations would be in favor of. The domestic US auto industry basically only exists in the form it does, influencing infrastructure and tons of other shit, because of the chicken tax, which was some random protectionist legislation in the 60’s.
Tax cuts will increase inflation for the bottom class, and cost of living, and probably every other metric, but nobody gives a fuck about that.
And I’m not sure to what degree the real estate market will be affected by domestic US military interventionism seeing as how we’ve already had a couple high profile marches and protests over the last 20 years that have had pretty outsized police and national guard responses, and the real estate market has done nothing but go up basically. Both up in value, and upwards into the hands of mass property management corporations and landlords.
I know everyone’s trying to stay optimistic about the sort of, incompetence of the trump regime, and the degree to which this is all just hype and drivel meant to drive the turnout of his base. I’m sure plenty of it is hype, but I’m also sure plenty of it isn’t. He still ended up appointing those supreme court justices, which has already fucked over an incredibly large proportion of stuff, and will probably fuck over everything for the next couple decades, since nobody’s gonna have enough of a spine to even threaten packing the court.
Regardless of party! Because we’re such a great country full of decadence that we have not one but two pro capitalist pro imperialism pro forever war parties!
“The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.”
Yeah that was the quote I was trying to go for but couldn’t quite remember
I had to look it up…knew what you were thinking though!
If there are stalls with doors in the bathroom, then mind your own damn business if someone is in there. If there aren’t, then it’s an issue with the facility that should be fixed so anyone using them has privacy. Why are Republicans so concerned about what people do on the toilet or in the bedroom?
“Women may get attacked by trans people” says the party who by far has the larger list of offenders. Clean your own house.
You know what, aren’t American stalls notorious for giant gaps in them? Maybe if they fixed that and had better stalls things like this may smooth over better. Unless that stereotype of American bathrooms is outdated or not actually the norm
Yes they are and I hate it.
Worse, my high school had no doors on the bathroom stalls at all (at least in the boys’ room). I’m guessing it was some sort of “we don’t want to catch you masturbating” sort of thing but I would almost always just hold any shitting I had to do in unless I was in drama class because the auditorium had bathrooms with doors.
It varies, sometimes you find places that are designed better than others. I can only assume the two reasons are cost (less material) and easier to mass clean. Not designed for the users.
Anyone being abused in any way in a bathroom by anyone is a crime and should be reported and prosecuted. What you’ll find is not what Republicans are trying to sell to get votes. It even falls under the projection label, so the ones calling for action should probably be watched closer for their own actions towards other people.
Once again, every accusation is a confession.
These people are obsessed with people’s genitals. Just go to the fucking bathroom. Must you go out of your way to make even taking a shit in public more uncomfortable than it needs to be?
Shut the fuck up and do your fucking job.
Insist on big dick and small dick bathrooms for guys. Really lean into it.
What if they’re a grower not a shower? How do we sort this out we talking flaccid or erect? Can half these congress critters even get an erection without chemical help?
Breaking News: House Republicans introduce bill to install Viagra dispensers in Capitol and House office building bathrooms
Many public restrooms in Iceland are unisex. These apes wouldn’t last one road trip.
I’m still trying to figure out what these people [Republicans] are doing in the bathroom. I probably don’t want to know. All can say is, when I’m trying to pee in a public restroom, I don’t really give a shit who’s in the stall next to me. I don’t care what their gender is. I don’t care what their birth gender was. I’m just trying to do my business and get on with my day.
But if they don’t wish me good luck, I don’t want to be taking a crap next to them. Sometimes you need that emotional support on the crapper, you know?
We know what Senator Larry Craig was doing in a stall with his wide stance.
I don’t care who is with me in the bathroom. I’m not there to make friends. I wouldn’t care if either Nancy Mace or Donald Trump was in the stall next to me.
Just don’t talk to me unless it’s an emergency, that’s all I ask.
I would care. Trump stinks like shit and even though I’m in a bathroom, I only want to smell my own.
The never ending tradition of conservatives always looking for someone to hate.
If bathrooms were properly designed instead of having half walls that don’t even meet, I doubt people would care nearly as much.
They’d find a reason to care because this is about maintaining patriarchy and queerphobia.
I love the way Alamo Drafthouse in Texas did this. Each stall is a fully walled environment and there’s a long sinkway for everyone. No one gives a shit that it’s male and female together.
There is or was a bar and restaurant in Pensacola FL that tricked people into going into the wrong restroom if you weren’t paying attention and/or drunk. It was funny and there was no panic or outrage.
I’ve seen restaurants do the same thing. Nobody looks at anyone twice. It’s perfect
I was in a bathroom the other day with a messed up toilet paper dispenser. I didn’t notice until a woman sat in the stall next to me and I turned my head to just see full cleavage perfectly centered through this massive like 5x5 inch gap. Most uncomfortable pee of my life.
Worth noting, this was a massive bathroom with like 30 stalls and 3 people currently in it and she chose to sit right next to me :(. It ain’t just urinals, guys.
if I owned the establishment
removes sign entirely
BATHROOM
“There, y’all figure it out.”
“This sign is bullshit. There’s no baths in that room! Just a bunch of sinks and toilets!”
Back home we do actually use a “toilet” label for bathrooms with only toilets. Needless to say, my first visit to America made quite a few laughs when I asked where the toilets are so I can wash me hands.
I like how we sometimes call them “restrooms.” I don’t know what y’all are doing in there, but I certainly ain’t resting. I’m usually fighting for my life if I actually am using a public toilet instead of waiting to get home.
You don’t enjoy relaxing by reading the shampoo bottle?
I’m the opposite, I shit loudly to assert my dominance over everyone else in the bathroom.
In US introductory psychology courses, one common assignment is to deliberately violate some unwritten social norm. Something that is never stated anywhere, but we all just customarily follow. My favorite example is, while visiting a friend’s house, ask if you can use their bathroom. When they say yes, go to their bathroom and take a bath.
Absolutely fucking beautiful!
Reminds me of a comedian who said he likes the European way and started asking “where is the toilet?” in the US. People stared at him saying “In the bathroom”.
The sinks are a bath if ya try hard enough.
Canadian here, don’t people just call it a washroom?
ever notice trans men don’t have this problem?
We absolutely do, even if you don’t hear about it as often.
I’m sorry to hear that. Thank you for opening up
Of course, Men are expected to deal with their own issues so being this fragile isn’t going to be plastered all over the media.
In my experience it’s the men who are the most fragile.
Yes, but we’re not allowed to talk about it
I like showing people who claim women don’t want to change in locker rooms with trans women because it makes them so uncomfortable and that locker rooms should only be for “real” women photos of the most manly-looking, muscle-bound AFAB men I can find and ask them to tell me if they think women would be comfortable changing in front of those men.
I have yet to get a yes.
The answer to “where do they expect trans people to go” is “nowhere. Hide or die.”
If trans-men wouldn’t endanger themselves by doing this, I would encourage them to chill in women toilets.
But they shouldn’t put themselves in harm’s way just to prove a point.
We should just treat them right and protect them from this nonsense.
We should be prepared for a fight on that front. The current uproar is about trans women. Put a trans man in power (anywhere) and the shit is really going to hit the fan. The rhetoric will shift from pseudo-sexualized bathroom nonsense to “how dare you disrupt our patriarchy.”
Transphobia both currently and for basically the last 50 years at least has always been framed and rooted in the idea of protecting women from predatory “men”. Trans men have been a footnote, at most and I doubt one becoming prominent will have the impact you expect.
Just unisex the thing. They get a lesson in tolerance and everyone gets equal treatment.
Democrats should hire a staffer to stand outside of the women bathroom at the capital and have them accuse every GOP women of being a man before they go to the bathroom.
They want to play these games? Let’s show them what their crazy looks like
Need a big scary FTM trans man with a beard to loiter in the women’s washroom because they have a vagina downstairs.
It’s all about the “biology” right??
These are the same people who’d say “stop lying, you look too manly to be a trans!!!1!1!!”
AOC put it nicely, the GQP wants to do a genital check on every woman and girl that dares to go into a restroom. Can’t we just make private stalls open to anyone?
Shows who paid attention during school. You can have XY chromosomes and be born with a vagina, no genitalia, or both. You can have XX chromosomes and be born with a penis, no genitalia, or both. So biological women doesn’t mean anything in the context they are using it.
They are just using whatever word was written on a birth certificate. This doesn’t reflect gender (that’s in your head), sex (genetics). Basically they are using genital appearance at birth as a proxy for gender. And assuming it was recorded correctly.
I find it incredible that global warming is skyrocketing, debt is skyrocketing, we have all sorts of existential political and health issues and the thing people worry about is…
Trans people in bathrooms.
Like, what the heck?
Even if I was anti-trans (and I am not), why would I lose so much sleep over that? What’s gonna happen, I see what looks like the opposite sex in the bathroom and my head explodes?
Even racial segregation made slightly more sense because actual societal segregation was the existing state, precedent, and public consensus (as horrible as it was) but… trans people are already mixed into the public?
Climate change and wealth inequality are the reason for the hate campaign. If you can make politics about minorities you can make it not about the rich people and rich countries paying their share to deal with current issues. My siblings and I’s rights and blood is the price to keep the ultra wealthy in their private jets without fear that the people their climate actions kill will revolt and they won’t lose a wink of sleep over it.
They lack the ability to apply critical thought and effort towards real problems and it’s apparently an appealing political trait for the average American voter
Unisex bathrooms or bust
With actually private toilets. Let everyone defecate in peace. We can share the sinks if we must.
This sounds good in theory but most women I know want to have their own bathroom. Unless it’s like one person at a time deal.
Last night I was thinking about the Sarah McBride situation and it got me thinking.
“I wonder if the first black person in congress was told he had to use the Colored Room?”
She just needs to pee!
Have you watched Hidden Figures? There’s a point in the movie where having different “colored” restrooms (at NASA in the 1960s) comes into play and… well, the resolution is pretty satisfying.
If you’re not running a positronic neural network then you’re a biological woman
Are you saying Data isn’t a man? Because he’s-
Which just makes this whole thing even more nonsensical and confusing since androids don’t have the need to expel waste the way humans do, and thus would not need to use a restroom.
Technically, that would depend on what would power the android. An android that gets energy from processing human food would work pretty well and there is sci-fi precedent for it- androids in the Aliens films eat food.
That said, I would hope they would have a more efficient way to get rid of that food waste than humans, so maybe they wouldn’t need bathrooms.
Maybe they can recycle the raw material like a replicator can recycle raw material.
