• Omgboom@lemmy.zip
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        The worst is when you dream about not being able to sleep, so even though you slept you feel like you didn’t

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    “Ugh, I feel like garbage.”

    “You must have slept wrong.”

    “WHY is that POSSIBLE?”

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          Yeah, I straight up cannot just sleep in. If I lay there extra, things just start to hurt, like my body’s saying “Get up, you have shit to do.”

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            Right. My wife and my daughter will sleep all morning. I’m up at 6 at the very latest. If I’m lucky.

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              Last year I discovered what 7/8h of sleep felt like thanks to horse adapted amounts of sleeping medication (120mg of Miamserine, 500mg of quetiapine, some THC).

              Before that I was used to 5/6h on the regular and 1/3h when it got worse.

              I don’t really understand how I have functionned all these years with that much sleep deprivation.

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                I’ve been on various types of sleep medication, although those sound like newer ones than when I was trying them years ago- every single one of them left me drowsy in the morning. Some for half the day. It was even worse than just not getting a full 8 hours.

                And OTC stuff? Forget it. If I take some NyQuil, I basically will be unable to do much but sit there in a haze for the next 18 hours or so.

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                  Yeah these are pretty newish. It might also not be what they’re called in your country.

                  My main issue with otc stuff is that it tended to make me drowsy but still unable to sleep …

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        I practically ran on 2-4 hours from 16-30.

        I have a lot to show for it, but I should have stopped after 30.

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            I’m currently treating sleep apnea, because of a lifelong abuse of my sleep cycle.

            I’m also dealing with issues with my heart because of the apnea and pushing my body so far without resting properly.

            I’ve likely stolen a decade or more from my life all because I refused to sleep just to “get ahead”.

            you young folk take note. sleep well, eat well, live well. you do those things and you shouldn’t need to live with a weight on your chest until you die. every hour I’m reminded how fragile I am, and trust me when I say I was fucking invincible in my youth…just like you feel. go head, set a timer in your phone to go off every hour that asks if you’re going to see tomorrow.

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      I’m with you there.

      If this ::wildly points at self:: is intelligent design, then said intelligence clearly adhered to a strict “just barely good enough to survive and move genes around” work ethos. That, or over-doing it wasn’t going to fit into the time and materials budget.

      Source: anxiety, PMS, knees, shoulders, oversized skull, vulnerable gonads on outside of body.

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        Don’t forget the absolutely deranged path wour vagal nerve takes through your torsoe because fish didn’t have necks and we do.

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          Which isn’t even half as insane as what it does in a giraffe

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      To be fair, it’s called “intelligent”, not “omnipotent” design, but still.

      Those types always claim omnipotency as well. So you’d expect an omnipotent being to make it perfect for everyone. Since it isn’t, the being’s either ignorant or sadist. Or, wait for it - a fucking fairy tale. And with ignorancy one can hardly claim a respectable level of intelligence.

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      Drag thinks humanity was created by the gods. Drag also thinks the gods are stupid. 13.7 billion years and the best those fuckers could come up with was evolution? What a joke!

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    CPAP, bitches, get it!

    but first see a doctor, maybe your sleep quality is bad due to different factors

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      Cpap doesn’t work for everyone, either. So don’t feel like a failure when it actually makes your sleep quality worse.

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      Definitely see a doctor first. While a CPAP machine can do wonders, it really only works for those who stop breathing. If you don’t stop breathing, it can actually do more harm to your sleep.

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        Especially if you know nothing about CPAP machines and your physician / pulmonologist select one for you and you get a Phillips one that turns out to rot from the inside and potentially send deadly material straight into your respiratory system.

        I fully support CPAP use as recommended after a sleep study, but that was a poor investment by my insurance company.

        edit: Though I guess if you get one without seeing your doctor first they won’t be selecting one for you.

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          Yeahhhhh my wife was on the fence about getting a CPAP for years. Finally got one and it dramatically helped! Until suddenly she got sick. And stayed sick until she stopped using it. Turns out it was the model you described and little shitty foam bits are not good for your lungs. Needless to say, she has not used any CPAP since. It sucks because even she said it helped, but she’s too scared of getting sick again to try a different kind.

          Thanks medical capitalism!

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            After that happened, I purchased (out of pocket) one from Lofta and haven’t had any trouble since. CPAPs themselves are a very helpful treatment and I genuinely recommend a good one (again, assuming a sleep study supports the need).

            Lofta also offers an at home study. Not sponsored or anything (I wish!), just have benefited from their product.

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          Hey, I’m am an American with a CPAP machine. I did get it when I was using that socialized medical world of the military though. 🤔

          It did do wonders for my sleep too. I woke up much more refreshed.

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        They aren’t that bad, if you have any insurance. Even medicare. The 20 percent we owe isn’t that horrible, and after the…2 year rental period we’ll just own it.

        Do gotta use it like every night so medicare continues to pay its 80 percent though.

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        I have an older model in the back of a closet somewhere if it would help someone. It works. I upgraded to a newer model.

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        Samesies. Though I’ve been rather inconsistent with my usage. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. Do not accept medical advice from a sentient piece of sci-fi machinery. Talk to your ship’s doctor instead.

      I agree about different factors. Here are some things I’ve learned along that way that may helps folks here.

      GERD might be a reasonable first diagnostic step: it can absolutely trash your sleep quality without mitigations. It’s common and relatively easy to combat.

      Good sleep hygiene is another set of practical things anyone can do.

      Re: CPAP - Obstructive sleep apnea is no joke. Fuck around and find out. And by “find out” I mean “wake up having a heart attack or stroke.”

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    I used to wake up energized about twice per year. These last few years I always wake up tired.

    I’ve had sleep apnea tests (I dont have it).

    I stopped drinking alcohol, ironically a lot of the ‘hangovers’ I had appear to be how I wake up without drinking too.

    I drink about 1l of water before bed. If I dont, I get let cramps when asleep.

    I eat multivitamins daily with addition iron and vitamin D.

    I used to drink a lot of coffee but now can’t stomach the stuff.

    I went caffeine free for months and it didnt help.

    I’m completely screws lol :D

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      Not to preach to the choir, but my sleep quality improved greatly when I started a very physical job. Not to say you have to do that, but moving around can be very beneficial

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        Thanks for the help!

        I’ve worked out 5 days a week, 3 days weights, 2 days cardio with no noticeable impact.

        I’m glad it worked for you :)

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      Let me introduce you to my friend Magnesium. It’s improved my sleep quality substantially in the past 2 weeks I’ve started taking it

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          I think it’s 200 mg. There’s a couple different formats out there. Some are more gentle on your stomach. Go with those, and take before bed. Omega 3s are supposed to help, too, so I take them as well

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            Some are more gentle on your stomach.

            You may have helped me solve a mystery. I started taking it a few weeks ago and I’ve had a lot of abdominal discomfort recently, but never put the two together. Also, I’ve unfortunately not seen any improvement in my chronic fatigue.

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              Apparently magnesium glycinate is the one (I was drawing a blank) that’s easier on you. supposedly it takes a few weeks to kick in, but I noticed an improvement in sleep right away.

              really hope you get the rest you need. If you’re still struggling, check your iron/test for Celiac’s - I’m just some guy on the internet, but my wife has super low iron and my FIL has celiac’s - in his case he had no symptoms at all, apart from fatigue and weight loss.

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                Thank you so much! I will try some magnesium glycinate. I am taking iron as well as I’m almost always low on that. Appreciate you taking the time to help.

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          Glycinate or Citrate will do the most for you sleep wise. Pills are dirt cheap, or if you want some flavor you can buy Natural Calm. It’s just flavored magnesium citrate.

          Pills are 200mg per pill, I have alot of sleep issues I usually take 4 pills. 2 if each type and sleep like a baby. But some people can’t handle the magnesium and it causes diarrhea

    • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
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      Not to seem like an ad, but buying a cooling pod for my bed was game changer. I used to sleep like a rotisserie chicken and was always tired. Now I cool my bed all night and not only have the corners of my sheets stayed put but I’m just significantly less tired all around.

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      Considering what you’ve tried this might seem obvious but since I didn’t see these explicitly mentioned:

      Have you tried being really consistent with your sleep schedule? Especially the time you wake up? (Probably the most important thing one can do for sleep quality)

      Have you checked wether the temperature you sleep in is ideal(cooler than normal)?

      Have you eliminated lights and noise from your bedroom? It needs to be completely dark and insulated from noise.

      Have you checked your sleep position and mattress? There are certain professional suggestions I’ve read about, like you should sleep on your side ideally with your dominant hand on top(fetal position) and the mattress should not be too hard or too soft and you sink into it too much and you should be replacing it from time to time(5-10 years).

      Have you optimized your pre and post sleep routines? Like staying away from screens and blue lights, winding down(for pre sleep), not changing up the routines as much as possible.

      Are you exercising enough and enough time before sleep?

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      Have you checked the air quality in your room during the night? If the CO2 level is too high you will not sleep well and may wake up with headaches or otherwise feeling unwell.

      Best to sleep with a window open to ensure some fresh air can get in.

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        Thanks for the help!

        No noticeable difference with window open or closed. No noticeable difference in hot or cold climates.

        My partner sleeps fine so it might be something else.

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      Vitamin D makes me groggy. I still take it but I have to be strategic (eg, once a week on Friday night so if I wake up groggy Saturday it’s no big deal).

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      Something that has been helping me gain insight is a Garmin smartwatch I got earlier this year. Their body battery metric has been insightful to me. Turns out pushing myself too hard the previous day could mess with my sleep, which I didn’t know.

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    Get a home sleep study. Insurance covers a CPAP with Dr prescription. But mental hurdle but man waking up fresh is worth it

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      Wait so sleep has momentum? Does sleep have mass? Is dark matter just all the sleep in the galaxy? Coffee is an anti-gravitational field??

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        Have you ever slept? It’s obviously a phenomenon in the quantum scale. No other explanation could possibly cover why it has such a weak impact unless done in bulk and oddities like waking up in entangled states of asleep and awake.

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    Tossing and turning, struggling to fall asleep, and getting up to go to the toilet at totally random times.