I use vmware and qemu

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    None, I use Docker for Linux, and Proton (Heroic) for Windows.

    But if I had to pick a virtual machine: libvirt with virt-manager as a frontend, which uses KVM for virtualization.

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      But if I had to pick a virtual machine: libvirt with virt-manager as a frontend, which uses KVM for virtualization.

      Its fair bcs vmware workstation does not support gpu passthrough libvirt with virt-manager is the only way

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      Correct me I’d I’m wrong, but with docker you’re limited to the filesyatems and the image of the OS you’re installing. If you need to experiment with the pre-OS boot events, can that even be accomplished with docker? E.g., trying out different GRUB settings, setting up LUKS with dropbear etc. I think those things require a VM.

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        Yeah, you are correct. Docker shares the kernel with the host operating system, it doesn’t use hardware virtualization. That’s why it’s so fast and simple, but it also means it’s not a traditional VM and thus comes with some limitations.

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        Besides VMWare it always seemed the easiest for me to quickly make a Windows VM or so. Everything else usually had more configuration steps. But that’s been a while ago. There could very well have been easier tools available in the mean time. I never bothered to look.

        I only ever used “permanent” virtualization once on my server. I think with Xen. But it didn’t give me any benefits for my use case so I dropped it later on. Also probably at least ten years ago.

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    virtmanager as frontend for qemu/kvm. I tried the commandline but it’s too annoying

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    Qemu+Kvm with virt-manager is my boy nowadays. But I’m not a heavy user of Vms, just experimented with this to build some Flatpak. But plan on trying out other distributions, just for science. It wasn’t easy to figure out how to share a folder, and I could not get drag and drop or clipboard share to work. Still though, its faster than any other solution. I used VirtualBox in the past, which was easy to work with.

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    I use virt-manager, aka Virtual Machine Manager. Using this specifically because of the winapps for Linux repo has instructions on how to get Windows apps to run through the VM to be integrated in a Linux environment.

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      How “scriptable” is virt-manager?

      My biggest issue with VirtualBox is that I have to install OSes as if I’m actually installing them. There aren’t any images (at least that I’m aware of) that can run with a command, like deploying an EC2.

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        Virt-manager isn’t super scriptable but the underlying libvirt can be controlled by virsh which is a shell interface to libvirt. You can use both at the same time, e.g. start and stop via virsh and access to gui container via virt-manager/virt-viewer.

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        Virtual manager isn’t scriptable at all as it is just a GUI for libvirt. You are probably looking for qemu or virsh (libvirt)

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      might try that tbh am gonna run razer software or apps that dont work on linux at all and for games am gonna use my windows ssd

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      I use Proxmox for the machine that I use to download all of the Linux ISOs I want. You know, with a VPN, through BitTorrent. Linux ISOs.

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      Proxmox isn’t really its own hypervisor. It combines a few common projects to make a OS. It is pretty much KVM with corosync for clustering.

      With that being said it is a solid platform. Just keep in mind it is just standard Linux virtualization and for single nodes you can get the exact same setup easily on any Linux system.

      • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Well, the exact same except for the frontend. It’s arguably better than virt-manager imo. I wonder how hard it would be to get pve-manager running outside the OS.

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          You absolutely can. People have done Proxmox installs on Debian and unsupported architectures by building from source.

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      Thanks for the pointer. But since Proxmox supports both KVM and LXC virtualization, wouldn’t that make it both type 1 and type 2?

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    Gnome boxes.

    Based on QEMU+KVM so it’s quite robust. It works pretty well, plus it has various little features working out of the box that in some other software is a pain in the arse to configure.

    Sticks out a bit on my system due to still being GTK3, but there is a GTK4 prototype out that usually works well.

    E: downvoting anybody who says Gnome Boxes because you use a different virtual machine frontend is laughably pathetic lmao. Some people in the Linux community are such losers lol

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      Does it matter what front end it uses if the underlying environment is QEMU+KVM. Upvote for tha above.

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      It doesn’t work for all cases and it is annoying that you have to wait until creation to change CPU count.