You think consumers love spending $60 every week at the pump, and being late for their morning meeting because they forgot to do so the previous evening? You think they enjoy having to wait for heat to finally appear on a cold morning? You think they enjoy oil changes and 30k service intervals and when their timing belt craps out and they bend a valve? And don’t even get me started on the externalities consumers don’t pay for. If they had to absorb those costs, imagine just how much less they’d like it!

I am convinced the majority of people don’t “like” it, but rather tolerate it because it’s all they’ve known, and change is scary. They’ll come around.

Is it truly a “gas equivalent?” Last I looked, an equivalent gas trim was comparably priced to the Lightning one. And with incentives now, some Lightnings are cheaper than gas.

ICE sucks more, yet still succeeded. Nothing has to be perfect to be viable.

• I wanted it

• I could afford it

Post-purchase, I’ve really come to love having the ability to leave the AC on while I run errands. Probably my favorite feature, outside of one-pedal driving.

I’ve actually not had any negative experiences over the past 4 years, and I live in Texas (and driven all over). I kinda concluded the concerns over hate were therefore overblown TBH.

Leasing was a bad deal when I bought, but now it’s more reasonable. Probably still a few bucks more than buying though, at least based on my current mileage and valuation.

Given which sub this is, I’m not sure if he means BMW M3 or Tesla Model 3, but saying anything is “pretty much liked by anyone” is wrong either way, lol.

Do you know the Semitic positions of all CEOs of all products you buy? Do you even largely care?

I dunno, I’ve had my Tesla for 4 years now and have actually come to prefer not having the driver display. “Look down and to the right” is one of those rare things that’s easier done than said. Complete non-issue in practice.

When switching back to legacy, the only thing I notice is how all the important driver info is obscured by the wheel, and/or my hand atop it.

it was only about $10K more then the Mach-E

Some of these used high-end EVs are truly great deals. I was looking at a Lucid Air Grand Touring Performance for $85k— this is a car that reviewers rave about, and sold for $150k new! Can’t wait to see what prices are for Sapphires in a year.

Define “released,” but… CyberTruck. Completely seriously/unironically. I love the way it looks, in no small part because it challenges what a car should have to look like. I reserved within the first couple hours after the unveil.

I also love the 5th gen Viper, but that didn’t immediately become a dream car the way CyberTruck did upon unveiling.

Someone above posted about a $55 connection fee at their local stealership. If there were a law about displaying $/kWh prices, I suspect usurous connection fees would be the next chicanery.

No, I’m sure you are the only one.

Nah, Chinese EVs are still selling fine.

The workaround seems to be buying another brand American consumers are already somewhat familiar with, then sneaking cars here under that brand. Right now that’s limited to Volvo, Polestar, and Lotus, but there’s no reason MG couldn’t happen in the future (and frankly I hope it does, as the MG4 is sharp!).

The ioniq 5 was pared with the Tucson, which is a good fit for size. But, one has smooth acceleration and a 0-60 of 4.4s and the other is clunky ice and 8-13 seconds to 60!

Have you driven both? Other than acceleration, they drive shockingly similarly.