• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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      Credibility alert.

      Chechnya is mostly Islamic, and Russia was very unfriendly to them, killings tens of thousands of women and children, with the battle of Grozny (twice) being the crowning achievement of civilian deaths.

      Syria is mostly Islamic, and Russia has been killing ISIL/ISIS soldiers (and a large number of civilians) there for for about 9 years.

      And Afghanistan itself had some slight history with Russia, being at war with them for about a decade.

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        Yeah in Syria it’s one of the few times US and Russian forces have fought “alongside” each other, both against ISIS.** There were so many greenforce nations in Syria the Pentagon had to dedicate staff to coordinate with a crazy mixbag of groups - Syrian Army, FSA, Kurds, Turkish, Russians, Iraq, and even Iran to make sure no one stepped on each other’s feet trying to kill ISIS. Lmao they REALLY pissed off the entire planet.

        ** - Russia quickly started hunting FSA people too and that’s how we got the whole “US absolutely deleting Wagner forces at the oil well” incident

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        Just to add:

        • Syria: they also allowed Russian Islamic extremists to go fight in Syria rather than cause trouble in Russia - some of them reportedly joined ISIS
        • Dagestan
        • Sudan/Darfur
        • disproportionate recruitment of Muslim minorities for the Ukrainian front
        • violent repression of Muslim minorities
        • involvement in the Sahel + helping military regimes in Niger/Mali/Burkino Faso fight ISIS affiliated groups
        • Afghanistan: ISIS have previously attacked the Russian embassy there, saying the Taliban aren’t radicals and are Russian puppets.
        • Iran: ISIS has perpetrated attacks in Iran, hates the Iranian regime. Iran is a Russian ally and provides them with drones for Ukraine, Russia in turn supports Iran.

        Etc. etc. etc.

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          the Ukrainian front violent repression of Muslim minorities

          An important distinction. There are a lot of ethnic minorities in Russia, and a lot of them are Muslim. The biggest groups got their own “stan” and are nominally independent now, but plenty in country.

          One of the reasons Chechnya got hammered so hard in the 90s was to send a message to those groups. But they ain’t happy.

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      8 months ago

      At least some of them are still pissed about the Afghanistan invasion in the 80s. Others are upset about Russia’s support for Syria.

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      8 months ago

      Daesh have beef with literally everyone that isnt themselves?

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      Easy. Just look up the letter agency who fund it. False Flag as always.

    • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.deM
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      nah, i don’t think so

      russians were warned about possible terrorist incidents some two weeks ago, but dismissed it entirely. on public side you could see us embassy warning saying to avoid concerts and other crowded places. on tuesday putin straight up said that these warning are western lies and attempt at intimidation. it would make every bit of sense if this isis cell also heard of this warning and just waited for another concert

      if it was a false flag, they’ll have more coherent pre-cooked narrative ready

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        if it was a false flag, they’ll have more coherent pre-cooked narrative ready

        Bingo. Putin is great at playing these games. If he had it planned it would be more graceful.

        This time it was just out of left field. Sometimes weird shit happens.

      • S_204@lemm.ee
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        Russia would. They’re claiming it’s Ukrainian driven, giving them an excuse to intensify their attack.

        25 years ago Putin bombed apartment buildings in Chechnya to give cover for the following actions.